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"hopitus" wrote in message
... On May 3, 9:52 pm, hopitus wrote: On May 3, 7:21 pm, "Yowie" wrote: , hopitus typed: On May 3, 11:08 am, "wafflycat" wrote: "Sherry" wrote in message ... It is a great quote and it fits. But just FYI, it's not what he actually said. For some odd reason, this quote has gone viral on the internet in this form. This is Dr. King's quote: "Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence and toughness multiples toughness in a descending spiral of destruction." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (Thanks for the info., Karen C.) Still a great quote on its own. Sherry Thanks for that Sherry - the true quote is just as apposite and one much needed at this time. Best, helen s Totally ignoring "icon" quotes of peace and love.....many of you from three great world powers, UK, USA, and Australa, calling celebrants of this news "bloodthirsty" and wrse......were not even on this earth in 1945 when was a very little girl and WW2 ended (Joy is execpted: she was around, few years older). You have seen the newsreels and vids and movies of the USA "dancing n the streets" and the famous "sailor kissing a strange nurse" pic on NYC main drag during massive celebration and return of USA troops to the homeland. Thosands of deaths led to the War's end. I don't get your equation: were those dancing, delirious celebrants "bloodthirsty" and worse? Oh, the poor, dead Axis (look that up). Let me tell you somethng else about the "bloodthirsty" USA dancers, anyway, from WW2 war's end, after the megabombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, *in spite of fresh memories of Pearl Harbor* I do NOT remember and have not viewed such street partying after the Max bombs were sent to Japan. No dancing, no partying, no celebrating in large numbers here....only shock and horror at the huge *mushroom* clouds arisig from that epic that led to Japan's surrender. USA people NOW needed something t celebrate very badly. Many, many citizens, old and young, are hurting badly for their daily living expenses, plus their medical care and medicines. I do not believe it is so much that bin Laden was killed as it is something the USA can claim victory for, even if militarily, after our prolonged disrespect and financial devaluation worldwide. At last, something to be happy about, even if not directly. We needed this to regain our national pride. I got different icons than some of you. Most of mine are military. I am not quoting them, snork. As far as I know, speaking to my parents who survived - and have deep psychological scars from - The Blitz, the jubilation seen on the newsreels at the end of WW2 was not celebrating and rejoicing of the hundreds of thousands of Axis deaths, or indeed Allied deaths, but simply because: *the war was over* At least, that is their memory of it in the UK. They were children, yes, but well into their early teens, and unlikley to 'misremember' such a thing. A different thing entirely to celebrating the death of an individual, even if that individual happened to be hte leader of 'the enemy' Did they dance that the death of Hitler? (I don't know) *That* would be comparable, but dancing because a war is over is not. Yowie Godwin! I am over discussing WW2 except to say yes, Usa celebrating *was* for the end of the war and the return of our troops. What those who were not with us then don't seem to get is this: no newsreel or documentary can show you the color big posters everywhere depicting the Axis leaders as ugly and scary caricatures of Nippon and German faces (remember I was only 8 when war ended) and I was asking my parents ( I could read) "what does "loose lips sink ships" mean? And that pic of the woman welder with a bandanna on head and muscles flexed, "We can do it!" Luckily I was not a toddler and memories of this and more remind me what you who were not there seem to be blown away by: *there was NO PC - political correctness - at that time, at least in USA. None. Back to the present and bin Laden: I think here many misguided people still think with his omission the terror threat is over and things will be like they were before 9/11.. Tonight's tv news shows polls taken that a large percentage of those asked really believe that....just because he was the ringleader and organizer. The other celebretory groupos here are, naturally, the military schools and bases. Nothing strange about them celebrating, a mission really was accomplished, and that is how they think. Don't take it personally about not being there to take it all in: Australian troops perished, and I do remember the Germans bombed the *hell* out of London in spite of excellent troops elsewhere from UK fighting right beside USA troops. The Royals did *not* go off to the rural palaces; Queen Mum was right there through it all, the Blitzkreig (German spelling??). AFA latest news, I enjoyed the Wedding gala and all its participants far more It is kind of one-in-a-lifetime Royal event. Have learned a few obscure details about ruler ascendency: correct me if I am up the wrong tree with this, but what they're saying here is that when Charles becomes King, Camilla (in spite of everything, and I do NOT mean being His side dish) will become the Queen of England then. But with just a title, Charles will be Head of State. USA don't bother to reply. Sorry, Yowie...I forgot to answer your question if we celebrated Hitler's death. Much controversy about finding of charred corpse in underground secret bunker, popular knowledge that he had many "doubles" to hide his real whereabouts, and to this day there are those who believe he escaped that bunker (leaving Eva Braun dead there, and could be living today somewhere. That's why no partying over *his* death as no one knows for sure; this went on way before DNA. *** Whether or not he escaped that bunker, it would be *very* surprising if he were living today somewhere, since he would be 121 years old. Joy |
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"hopitus" wrote in message
... On May 4, 1:16 am, "Joy" wrote: "hopitus" wrote in message ... On May 3, 9:52 pm, hopitus wrote: On May 3, 7:21 pm, "Yowie" wrote: , hopitus typed: On May 3, 11:08 am, "wafflycat" wrote: "Sherry" wrote in message ... It is a great quote and it fits. But just FYI, it's not what he actually said. For some odd reason, this quote has gone viral on the internet in this form. This is Dr. King's quote: "Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence and toughness multiples toughness in a descending spiral of destruction." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (Thanks for the info., Karen C.) Still a great quote on its own. Sherry Thanks for that Sherry - the true quote is just as apposite and one much needed at this time. Best, helen s Totally ignoring "icon" quotes of peace and love.....many of you from three great world powers, UK, USA, and Australa, calling celebrants of this news "bloodthirsty" and wrse......were not even on this earth in 1945 when was a very little girl and WW2 ended (Joy is execpted: she was around, few years older). You have seen the newsreels and vids and movies of the USA "dancing n the streets" and the famous "sailor kissing a strange nurse" pic on NYC main drag during massive celebration and return of USA troops to the homeland. Thosands of deaths led to the War's end. I don't get your equation: were those dancing, delirious celebrants "bloodthirsty" and worse? Oh, the poor, dead Axis (look that up). Let me tell you somethng else about the "bloodthirsty" USA dancers, anyway, from WW2 war's end, after the megabombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, *in spite of fresh memories of Pearl Harbor* I do NOT remember and have not viewed such street partying after the Max bombs were sent to Japan. No dancing, no partying, no celebrating in large numbers here....only shock and horror at the huge *mushroom* clouds arisig from that epic that led to Japan's surrender. USA people NOW needed something t celebrate very badly. Many, many citizens, old and young, are hurting badly for their daily living expenses, plus their medical care and medicines. I do not believe it is so much that bin Laden was killed as it is something the USA can claim victory for, even if militarily, after our prolonged disrespect and financial devaluation worldwide. At last, something to be happy about, even if not directly. We needed this to regain our national pride. I got different icons than some of you. Most of mine are military. I am not quoting them, snork. As far as I know, speaking to my parents who survived - and have deep psychological scars from - The Blitz, the jubilation seen on the newsreels at the end of WW2 was not celebrating and rejoicing of the hundreds of thousands of Axis deaths, or indeed Allied deaths, but simply because: *the war was over* At least, that is their memory of it in the UK. They were children, yes, but well into their early teens, and unlikley to 'misremember' such a thing. A different thing entirely to celebrating the death of an individual, even if that individual happened to be hte leader of 'the enemy' Did they dance that the death of Hitler? (I don't know) *That* would be comparable, but dancing because a war is over is not. Yowie Godwin! I am over discussing WW2 except to say yes, Usa celebrating *was* for the end of the war and the return of our troops. What those who were not with us then don't seem to get is this: no newsreel or documentary can show you the color big posters everywhere depicting the Axis leaders as ugly and scary caricatures of Nippon and German faces (remember I was only 8 when war ended) and I was asking my parents ( I could read) "what does "loose lips sink ships" mean? And that pic of the woman welder with a bandanna on head and muscles flexed, "We can do it!" Luckily I was not a toddler and memories of this and more remind me what you who were not there seem to be blown away by: *there was NO PC - political correctness - at that time, at least in USA. None. Back to the present and bin Laden: I think here many misguided people still think with his omission the terror threat is over and things will be like they were before 9/11.. Tonight's tv news shows polls taken that a large percentage of those asked really believe that....just because he was the ringleader and organizer. The other celebretory groupos here are, naturally, the military schools and bases. Nothing strange about them celebrating, a mission really was accomplished, and that is how they think. Don't take it personally about not being there to take it all in: Australian troops perished, and I do remember the Germans bombed the *hell* out of London in spite of excellent troops elsewhere from UK fighting right beside USA troops. The Royals did *not* go off to the rural palaces; Queen Mum was right there through it all, the Blitzkreig (German spelling??). AFA latest news, I enjoyed the Wedding gala and all its participants far more It is kind of one-in-a-lifetime Royal event. Have learned a few obscure details about ruler ascendency: correct me if I am up the wrong tree with this, but what they're saying here is that when Charles becomes King, Camilla (in spite of everything, and I do NOT mean being His side dish) will become the Queen of England then. But with just a title, Charles will be Head of State. USA don't bother to reply. Sorry, Yowie...I forgot to answer your question if we celebrated Hitler's death. Much controversy about finding of charred corpse in underground secret bunker, popular knowledge that he had many "doubles" to hide his real whereabouts, and to this day there are those who believe he escaped that bunker (leaving Eva Braun dead there, and could be living today somewhere. That's why no partying over *his* death as no one knows for sure; this went on way before DNA. *** Whether or not he escaped that bunker, it would be *very* surprising if he were living today somewhere, since he would be 121 years old. Joy Your opinion is valued, since you were alive when WW2 ended. I was 8; and do not remember how old Der Fuhrer was during the war. Just what his caricatures looked like. I knew nothing about Eva Braun then either. http://www.blackraiser.com/redoubt/ WW II ended three months before I turned 10. I Goodsearched Adolf Hitler before I responded. He was born in April of 1889. Joy |
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"Yowie" wrote in message ... In , Christina Websell typed: "Yowie" wrote in message ... "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr. well, you are ok in australia, aren't you Yes, I am in Australia. But you already knew that. usa and uk have been bombed by aq and we are not sorry bin laden is dead. I hope you did not mean to imply that somehow Australians - all 20 million of us - are somehow less qualified to comment on Bin Laden's death because, our loss, our suffering, our outrage, our anger, our fear, and our empathy an compassion towards the victims, of terrorism are somehow 'less worthy' than your own. not exactly but unless you've been bombed by aq, i doubt you can understand the hatred. as i said, i'd have preferred osama to come to trial, there's revenge there in the usa. i'm not sure that's ok but i am not sorry he was killed by them. |
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"hopitus" wrote in message ... million I am not going to ask if you tried exiting your shoulder apparatus. i did try it today just to wash, i released the straps. no way i can drive on tuesday like i hoped for. it's so painful it's not possible - i am so disappointed. i was hoping that that 14-16 weeks to recover from this was a joke but it isn't. i must not tell my surgeon, he told me not to take my slingie off but it's only a few days now since 5 weeks. i took it off for 10 minutes yesterday because i could not tolerate it any more. it makes me itch dreadfully. |
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On 7/05/2011 6:48 AM, Christina Websell wrote:
wrote in message ... In , Christina typed: wrote in message ... "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr. well, you are ok in australia, aren't you Yes, I am in Australia. But you already knew that. usa and uk have been bombed by aq and we are not sorry bin laden is dead. I hope you did not mean to imply that somehow Australians - all 20 million of us - are somehow less qualified to comment on Bin Laden's death because, our loss, our suffering, our outrage, our anger, our fear, and our empathy an compassion towards the victims, of terrorism are somehow 'less worthy' than your own. not exactly but unless you've been bombed by aq, Australians were specifically targeted by an AQ-associated group, Jemaah Islamiyah, in the 2002 Bali bombings. i doubt you can understand the hatred. There are plenty of who share my view that are in the USA and UK. Not everyone feels hatred, not even those who lost loved ones in the attacks. as i said, i'd have preferred osama to come to trial, there's revenge there in the usa. i'm not sure that's ok but i am not sorry he was killed by them. Can't say that I am feeling any great loss for the man. However, I stand by the original quote of MLK: "Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." Yowie |
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"hopitus" wrote in message ... On May 6, 2:48 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Yowie" wrote in message ... , Christina Websell typed: "Yowie" wrote in message ... "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr. well, you are ok in australia, aren't you Yes, I am in Australia. But you already knew that. usa and uk have been bombed by aq and we are not sorry bin laden is dead. I hope you did not mean to imply that somehow Australians - all 20 million of us - are somehow less qualified to comment on Bin Laden's death because, our loss, our suffering, our outrage, our anger, our fear, and our empathy an compassion towards the victims, of terrorism are somehow 'less worthy' than your own. not exactly but unless you've been bombed by aq, i doubt you can understand the hatred. as i said, i'd have preferred osama to come to trial, there's revenge there in the usa. i'm not sure that's ok but i am not sorry he was killed by them. I am not going to ask if you tried exiting your shoulder apparatus. Having regained my eyesight, I will point ouot to anyone who has slightest interest (Matt?) there are *all kinds* of obscene, snarky, and hilarious entries re the USA CIA coup hot topic recently. Some with vids and pics, others just parodies. Check it all out. If you feel sorry for whats-his-face....don't bother, very OMG stuff. What are you trying to get me into or say about my state of mind shush did you hear that LOL ;-) As far as rejoicing that POS is dead. It matters not what I do, how I act or what I think or what anyone else does. The fact is that murderous coward is dead. The world has one less monster in it with many more to go. The POS is buried where he can not be made a focus point or a rally point for the other cowards. No trial to worry about what will happen or 20 years to get an answer; just to have some bleed heart liberal say this is not right. It is a closure that some people needed; Whether revenge, justice, hatred whatever, it is closure think about that. Will I loose sleep over saying HELL YEAH the POS is dead not a wink. Do I care if anyone else does not like that? Sorry but that answer is Nope. I wish I could meet the soldiers in the raid shake their hands and say thank you for bringing a monster to justice. Than find any soldier give them a hug and say thank you for my freedom A rhetorical question to ponder on. Where we you when those towers fell and have you forgotten? I can answer that I am keeping my promise 9/11 Tribute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPU7gk4qqdk Sorry If I offended anyone but this is an emotional thing for me as many others in this world. That day still plays in my heart. When my best friend called me running for his life unable to reach anyone but me. He was the manager of the book store in the tower. He talked like he was going to die making me promise I would tell his family he loved them and to be strong. I still remember telling him to hit the deck as the next plane hit the tower hearing all the screams of terror around him and than nothing but silence. I remember when the plane hit the pentagon my cousin was 1 section over from where the impact was. The only thing that saved her and her coworkers were the reinforced walls. I remember making phone call after phone call trying to find her and my friends. Holding my family close trying to reassure them it was alright while trying to pack my stuff to get in my truck starting for the area to find them. It took 13 hours to hear from them . My great aunt was in one of the outer buildings that the towers fell on. We could not find her for 2 weeks after the event. They could not identify her when she was in the hospital. I still remember that feeling of terror as I watched reports come in of all the deaths. I will never forget and no one will ever tell me not to be happy that POS is dead. It may not bring the fallen back but I believe they can finally rest now and their families can get some closure. I am going to get off the soap box here. |
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Christina Websell wrote:
i'd have preferred osama to come to trial, *there's revenge there in the usa. *i'm not sure that's ok but i am not sorry he was killed by them. Revenge for what? OBL was never charged for 9/11 because the FBI had no evidence linking him to the crime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Pd_tCjSyc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2xRLiRqb8M The CIA has admitted that OBL was trained, funded and supported by CIA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn61PJQGCUo It's well known that he suffered from a kidney ailment that forced him to have regular dialysis treaments. He was treated for this in the American Hospital in Dubai shortly before 9/11: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001...stan.terrorism To put him on trial would have brought all these facts, and more (the rabbit hole is a deep one) to a much broader audience. This is why he had to be killed. |
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On May 6, 11:06*pm, Pat wrote:
Revenge for what? OBL was never charged for 9/11 because the FBI had no evidence linking him to the crime: a lot of evidence that he was involved in 9/11 is based on the fact that a few weeks later he posted a video praising the bombers well given his ideology he was hardly going to make a video damning them was he? Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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"hopitus" wrote in message
... On May 6, 5:48 pm, "Matthew" wrote: "hopitus" wrote in message ... On May 6, 2:48 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Yowie" wrote in message ... , Christina Websell typed: "Yowie" wrote in message ... "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr. well, you are ok in australia, aren't you Yes, I am in Australia. But you already knew that. usa and uk have been bombed by aq and we are not sorry bin laden is dead. I hope you did not mean to imply that somehow Australians - all 20 million of us - are somehow less qualified to comment on Bin Laden's death because, our loss, our suffering, our outrage, our anger, our fear, and our empathy an compassion towards the victims, of terrorism are somehow 'less worthy' than your own. not exactly but unless you've been bombed by aq, i doubt you can understand the hatred. as i said, i'd have preferred osama to come to trial, there's revenge there in the usa. i'm not sure that's ok but i am not sorry he was killed by them. I am not going to ask if you tried exiting your shoulder apparatus. Having regained my eyesight, I will point ouot to anyone who has slightest interest (Matt?) there are *all kinds* of obscene, snarky, and hilarious entries re the USA CIA coup hot topic recently. Some with vids and pics, others just parodies. Check it all out. If you feel sorry for whats-his-face....don't bother, very OMG stuff. What are you trying to get me into or say about my state of mind shush did you hear that LOL ;-) As far as rejoicing that POS is dead. It matters not what I do, how I act or what I think or what anyone else does. The fact is that murderous coward is dead. The world has one less monster in it with many more to go. The POS is buried where he can not be made a focus point or a rally point for the other cowards. No trial to worry about what will happen or 20 years to get an answer; just to have some bleed heart liberal say this is not right. It is a closure that some people needed; Whether revenge, justice, hatred whatever, it is closure think about that. Will I loose sleep over saying HELL YEAH the POS is dead not a wink. Do I care if anyone else does not like that? Sorry but that answer is Nope. I wish I could meet the soldiers in the raid shake their hands and say thank you for bringing a monster to justice. Than find any soldier give them a hug and say thank you for my freedom A rhetorical question to ponder on. Where we you when those towers fell and have you forgotten? I can answer that I am keeping my promise 9/11 Tributehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPU7gk4qqdk Sorry If I offended anyone but this is an emotional thing for me as many others in this world. That day still plays in my heart. When my best friend called me running for his life unable to reach anyone but me. He was the manager of the book store in the tower. He talked like he was going to die making me promise I would tell his family he loved them and to be strong. I still remember telling him to hit the deck as the next plane hit the tower hearing all the screams of terror around him and than nothing but silence. I remember when the plane hit the pentagon my cousin was 1 section over from where the impact was. The only thing that saved her and her coworkers were the reinforced walls. I remember making phone call after phone call trying to find her and my friends. Holding my family close trying to reassure them it was alright while trying to pack my stuff to get in my truck starting for the area to find them. It took 13 hours to hear from them . My great aunt was in one of the outer buildings that the towers fell on. We could not find her for 2 weeks after the event. They could not identify her when she was in the hospital. I still remember that feeling of terror as I watched reports come in of all the deaths. I will never forget and no one will ever tell me not to be happy that POS is dead. It may not bring the fallen back but I believe they can finally rest now and their families can get some closure. I am going to get off the soap box here. Only mentioned your name to direct you to the verbal carnage re the Big Happening on YouTube, not challenge your outlook on it. Various deities have been quoted in this thread. As I stated before...we do not all cherish the same deities or deity. Oh, Great Galactic Kitten, who guards the Portals of the Rainbow Bridge, Bev A.'s beloved Orion approaches your Worthy Stand for admittance. Welcome him with open paws to the Fold of lost beloveds, and insure his surrounding with companions of his kind, that he may miss his beloved Hoomin Bev a tiny bit less. We have faith you will embrace Orion. Send giant gnarly hairballs to those who harm our felines in any way, and in special forms to those would maliciously cause them pain. Send ripped and ragged sofas to those who pass hoomin edicts to slaughter feral colonies en masse, rather than to change their environment and home them eventually. Bast, your Mistress, sees all, knows all, and her wrath is terrible indeed, when unleashed in retribution to terrorists of felines. Pity the cecipients never do know what they did to incur her fury and revenge, which send them Bad Karma unlimited in their lives. I beseech thee, Great Kitten, to hear my pleas and await our guaranteed arrival at your Portal, where we will see not only You, but all our lost loves we miss at the foot of the Bridge....and cross it with them, never again to be parted Since we now have politics, in addition to medical death throes, and quotes from hoomin deities....what's a little religion as expressed here? One more time: your deity is not my deity, and I don't care what he says or said. Great Galactic Kitten says nothing: he believes in Nike motto: Just Do It. So I can't quote Him.Just remember: Him and Bast are like fam. Did not think you were challenging me just wonder what you were trying to get me into hint hint evil grin ;-) AS far the as the viral bull**** going on I said some liberal bleeding heart would say it isn't right proof is already by one of our posters today |
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Lesley Madigan wrote:
a lot of evidence that he was involved in 9/11 is based on the fact that a few weeks later he posted a video praising the bombers well given his ideology he was hardly going to make a video damning them was he? No, but he did disclaim any responsibility for the attacks: http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/u...-mohammed-omar Not characteristic of a terrorist proud of his accomplishments. It is said that he later *did* claim responsibility, but apparently most of the videos made of him after the first were fakes. Bin Laden video is compilation of repeats, says expert: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...aida.terrorism Still images suggest Bin Laden video doctored to seem new: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Osamas...test_1101.html Interesting reading: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...9/lkl.01..html "The [CIA] actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said." (Source: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-t...deas_to_d.html ) Also, the purported "fat-nose" bin Laden video from December 2001 was mistranslated. "Arabist Dr. Abdel El M. Husseini, one of the translators, states, 'I have carefully examined the Pentagon's translation. This translation is very problematic. At the most important places where it is held to prove the guilt of Bin Laden, it is not identical with the Arabic.'" (Source: http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/16801 ) For a run down of some of the most notoriously dubious bin Laden videos see the following article: http://infowars.net/articles/novembe...91107Laden.htm |
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