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Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
We've had a helluva lot of cats. The ones that preferred dry food all had far better teeth and gums than the others. The "myth" works fine for us. My family always had cats. None of them had dry food, ever, because it didn't even appear on the Finnish market until maybe the 1980s. None of them had problems with their teeth. -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
Evidently that's another of the many statements one cannot categorically make about ALL cats! (Mine not only chew their dry food, but do it so loudly I can clearly hear them in the adjacent room!) When cats eat dry food, they crunch down once on each piece of kibble. It shatters and they swallow the pieces. They don't chew each piece over and over like a herbivore, say, a cow. The sound comes from eating several pieces in succession, biting down once on each. -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
We've had a helluva lot of cats. The ones that preferred dry food all had far better teeth and gums than the others. The "myth" works fine for us. Our cats have healthy gums and teeth, only Luna and Xoxo (our old guy) have required dental cleanings. Both Luna and Xoxo love kibble. Well, Luna loves food, period. Maya and Basho rarely eat kibble, and they have never had dental issues. I read an article sometime ago (posted by Phil M., if I remember correctly) about how kibble must be dog-size so that the abrasive action can actually do any good. That's why the Science Diet dental formula is so large. Think about it. Small kibble, chewed mostly on the molars, will only abrade the surface of those teeth. Nothing on the sides, which is where the tartar forms. It would have to be a very large kibble for it to actually abrade the sides of the teeth. Cheers. Victor -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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On 2008-01-06, Stormmee penned:
vet says its dependent on the cat, her philosophy is it goes cat to cat, Lee My vet says it was never really proved for dogs, and that even if it were true for dogs it wouldn't prove anything for cats. Regardless, the benefits of wet over dry are significant in terms of preventing diabetes (granted this assumes higher grain content in dry, which may not be true depending on the specifics). *sigh* but Oscar has made it clear she's willing to fast until I give her dry food, and I'm not willing to do that to her when she's already ill. So dry food it is ... at least I do try to keep her on the low-grain varieties. Monique Y. Mudama wrote in message ... On 2008-01-06, Jack Campin - bogus address penned: If I'd been looking after your cats for you, I'd have done exactly the same as your cleaner unless you had given me a very good reason not to. (The weight problem would have been such a reason, but the kidney disease scare is just nonsense; if a cat gets enough water there's no issue, and dry food is better for their teeth). To the best of my knowledge the idea that dry food is better for cat teeth is no longer considered correct. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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Yes, sometimes, at least, you just have to feed them what they'll eat.
Joy "Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message ... On 2008-01-06, Stormmee penned: vet says its dependent on the cat, her philosophy is it goes cat to cat, Lee My vet says it was never really proved for dogs, and that even if it were true for dogs it wouldn't prove anything for cats. Regardless, the benefits of wet over dry are significant in terms of preventing diabetes (granted this assumes higher grain content in dry, which may not be true depending on the specifics). *sigh* but Oscar has made it clear she's willing to fast until I give her dry food, and I'm not willing to do that to her when she's already ill. So dry food it is ... at least I do try to keep her on the low-grain varieties. Monique Y. Mudama wrote in message ... On 2008-01-06, Jack Campin - bogus address penned: If I'd been looking after your cats for you, I'd have done exactly the same as your cleaner unless you had given me a very good reason not to. (The weight problem would have been such a reason, but the kidney disease scare is just nonsense; if a cat gets enough water there's no issue, and dry food is better for their teeth). To the best of my knowledge the idea that dry food is better for cat teeth is no longer considered correct. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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exactly my point like in humans, I agree with the vet... if I were going on
taste preferences I would never eat meat again, or would go literally months in between for real red meat... however my health suffers if I do this, so it stands to reasons that cats are the same, good you are listening to your master and choosing the healthiest option for her, Lee Monique Y. Mudama wrote in message ... On 2008-01-06, Stormmee penned: vet says its dependent on the cat, her philosophy is it goes cat to cat, Lee My vet says it was never really proved for dogs, and that even if it were true for dogs it wouldn't prove anything for cats. Regardless, the benefits of wet over dry are significant in terms of preventing diabetes (granted this assumes higher grain content in dry, which may not be true depending on the specifics). *sigh* but Oscar has made it clear she's willing to fast until I give her dry food, and I'm not willing to do that to her when she's already ill. So dry food it is ... at least I do try to keep her on the low-grain varieties. Monique Y. Mudama wrote in message ... On 2008-01-06, Jack Campin - bogus address penned: If I'd been looking after your cats for you, I'd have done exactly the same as your cleaner unless you had given me a very good reason not to. (The weight problem would have been such a reason, but the kidney disease scare is just nonsense; if a cat gets enough water there's no issue, and dry food is better for their teeth). To the best of my knowledge the idea that dry food is better for cat teeth is no longer considered correct. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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Marina wrote: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: Evidently that's another of the many statements one cannot categorically make about ALL cats! (Mine not only chew their dry food, but do it so loudly I can clearly hear them in the adjacent room!) When cats eat dry food, they crunch down once on each piece of kibble. It shatters and they swallow the pieces. They don't chew each piece over and over like a herbivore, say, a cow. The sound comes from eating several pieces in succession, biting down once on each. Okay, but that still fits MY definition of "chewing". They bite-down on it, they don't swallow it whole! What difference does it make whether they chew it "thoroughly", so long as their teeth get exercised? |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
Okay, but that still fits MY definition of "chewing". They bite-down on it, they don't swallow it whole! What difference does it make whether they chew it "thoroughly", so long as their teeth get exercised? Maybe their teeth get exercise, but we were talking about dry food allegedly helping to *clean* their teeth. -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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On 2008-01-06, Marina penned:
Dry food does nothing for cats' teeth. It's a myth perpetuated by clever advertising. Cats don't chew their food. I've heard and seen Oscar crack some kibble into smaller pieces before eating. Don't know if that counts as chewing. Crumbs generally surround her plate. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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Marina wrote: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: Okay, but that still fits MY definition of "chewing". They bite-down on it, they don't swallow it whole! What difference does it make whether they chew it "thoroughly", so long as their teeth get exercised? Maybe their teeth get exercise, but we were talking about dry food allegedly helping to *clean* their teeth. Well, anything abrasive (like dry food) must have SOME effect. (Whether or not it's enought to be therapeutic is another matter.) |
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