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From: Laura R.
PawsForThought ) said, But I'm new to the wood floor thing so if anyone has something that would work better, please let me know. I Murphy's Oil Soap. It's also great for cleaning oil paint out of paintbrushes, if you happen to have a sideline as an artist. ;-) Laura Thanks, Laura. You know I've seen it in stores for years but I've never used it. Do you know what it's made out of? ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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Phil P." wrote:
"Howdy" wrote in message . com... Dr. Lee - I confirmed with the ASPCA and they have a statement on their site. THe rumor is false. I trust the ASPCA when it comes to my pets. The Swifter Wetjet solution contains propylene glycol (PG). PG causes Heinz bodies in cats. Heinz bodies result in red blood cell destruction and hemolytic anemia in cats. Cats have oxidant-sensitive hemoglobin. Their hemoglobin is highly unstable and subject to oxidation by chemicals that aren't deleterious to other species' RBCs. See: Am J Vet Res (American Journal of Veterinary Research) 1992 Jan;53(1):69-72. "Hematologic alterations in adult cats fed 6 or 12% propylene glycol" more information. Phil This is the news release from the ASPCA: My Interests | All Interests: ASPCA News Articles -- Return to Top -- ASPCA News Articles Add to My Interests ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center Responds to Swiffer Wet Jet Rumor Friday May 7, 2004 Veterinary Toxicologists regard allegations of liver failure and death from household cleaner as unfounded. Media Contact: Ruth Goldstein (212) 876-7700 ext. 4661 Dana Farbman, CVT (217)-337-5030 ext. 751 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (Urbana, IL) May 6, 2004 -- Veterinary toxicologists at the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center have reviewed the claim described in a widely distributed email alleging a relationship between the use of Swiffer Wet Jet and liver failure in a dog. The email alleges that exposure to the ingredients in Swiffer Wet Jet caused a dog's death. The Swiffer Wet Jet system contains water (90-100%), propylene glycol n-propyl ether or propylene glycol n-butyl ether and isopropyl alcohol (1-4%). These ingredients are safe to use around pets when used according to label directions and would not cause liver damage at product concentrations. Propylene glycol n-butyl/propyl ether differs significantly from ethylene glycol, the potentially toxic ingredient present in most antifreeze products. Ethylene glycol is frequently implicated in causing renal failure in dogs following antifreeze ingestion. Propylene glycol n-propyl ether and propylene glycol n-butyl ether are very safe ingredients at levels used in cleaning products and do not cause kidney or liver failure. The ASPCA will continue to monitor this situation and will post any additional information as it becomes available. Please call 1-888-426-4435 if you have any questions or have a pet that you suspect is experiencing problems, or visit us at www.apcc.aspca.org. ***************************** Are you disagreeing with their veterinary toxicologists here? Also, I question whether cats exposed to normal household use of Swiffer products are going to come anywhere near a fraction of the level of 6-12 percent propylene glycol (and was it actually propylene glycol n-propyl ether or propylene glycol n-butyl?) the cats in this study ingested. |
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Phil P." wrote:
"Howdy" wrote in message . com... Dr. Lee - I confirmed with the ASPCA and they have a statement on their site. THe rumor is false. I trust the ASPCA when it comes to my pets. The Swifter Wetjet solution contains propylene glycol (PG). PG causes Heinz bodies in cats. Heinz bodies result in red blood cell destruction and hemolytic anemia in cats. Cats have oxidant-sensitive hemoglobin. Their hemoglobin is highly unstable and subject to oxidation by chemicals that aren't deleterious to other species' RBCs. See: Am J Vet Res (American Journal of Veterinary Research) 1992 Jan;53(1):69-72. "Hematologic alterations in adult cats fed 6 or 12% propylene glycol" more information. Phil This is the news release from the ASPCA: My Interests | All Interests: ASPCA News Articles -- Return to Top -- ASPCA News Articles Add to My Interests ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center Responds to Swiffer Wet Jet Rumor Friday May 7, 2004 Veterinary Toxicologists regard allegations of liver failure and death from household cleaner as unfounded. Media Contact: Ruth Goldstein (212) 876-7700 ext. 4661 Dana Farbman, CVT (217)-337-5030 ext. 751 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (Urbana, IL) May 6, 2004 -- Veterinary toxicologists at the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center have reviewed the claim described in a widely distributed email alleging a relationship between the use of Swiffer Wet Jet and liver failure in a dog. The email alleges that exposure to the ingredients in Swiffer Wet Jet caused a dog's death. The Swiffer Wet Jet system contains water (90-100%), propylene glycol n-propyl ether or propylene glycol n-butyl ether and isopropyl alcohol (1-4%). These ingredients are safe to use around pets when used according to label directions and would not cause liver damage at product concentrations. Propylene glycol n-butyl/propyl ether differs significantly from ethylene glycol, the potentially toxic ingredient present in most antifreeze products. Ethylene glycol is frequently implicated in causing renal failure in dogs following antifreeze ingestion. Propylene glycol n-propyl ether and propylene glycol n-butyl ether are very safe ingredients at levels used in cleaning products and do not cause kidney or liver failure. The ASPCA will continue to monitor this situation and will post any additional information as it becomes available. Please call 1-888-426-4435 if you have any questions or have a pet that you suspect is experiencing problems, or visit us at www.apcc.aspca.org. ***************************** Are you disagreeing with their veterinary toxicologists here? Also, I question whether cats exposed to normal household use of Swiffer products are going to come anywhere near a fraction of the level of 6-12 percent propylene glycol (and was it actually propylene glycol n-propyl ether or propylene glycol n-butyl?) the cats in this study ingested. |
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"Yngver" wrote in message ... Phil P." wrote: n-butyl ether are very safe ingredients at levels used in cleaning products and do not cause kidney or liver failure. Are you disagreeing with their veterinary toxicologists here? No... I agree PG doesn't cause liver or kidney failure in cats (lthough hypoxia caused by anemia could damage any organ). PG causes Heinz bodies on feline hemoglobin that can cause hemolytic anemia. Several peer-reviewed studies confirm that fact. In 1992 the FDA banned the use of PG as a humacant in semimoist cat foods. Also, I question whether cats exposed to normal household use of Swiffer products are going to come anywhere near a fraction of the level of 6-12 percent propylene glycol After the water component of the Swifter solution evaporates, the residue is probably nearly 100% PG. Cats are in direct contact with the floor for most of their waking hours - some cats even sleep on the floor, too. Between absorption through the paws and skin and ingestion through grooming their contaminated coats, I think there's more than enough PG available to cause concern. Where my cats health is concerned, I tend to err on the side of caution - especially when there's no benefit to the cat. |
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"Yngver" wrote in message ... Phil P." wrote: n-butyl ether are very safe ingredients at levels used in cleaning products and do not cause kidney or liver failure. Are you disagreeing with their veterinary toxicologists here? No... I agree PG doesn't cause liver or kidney failure in cats (lthough hypoxia caused by anemia could damage any organ). PG causes Heinz bodies on feline hemoglobin that can cause hemolytic anemia. Several peer-reviewed studies confirm that fact. In 1992 the FDA banned the use of PG as a humacant in semimoist cat foods. Also, I question whether cats exposed to normal household use of Swiffer products are going to come anywhere near a fraction of the level of 6-12 percent propylene glycol After the water component of the Swifter solution evaporates, the residue is probably nearly 100% PG. Cats are in direct contact with the floor for most of their waking hours - some cats even sleep on the floor, too. Between absorption through the paws and skin and ingestion through grooming their contaminated coats, I think there's more than enough PG available to cause concern. Where my cats health is concerned, I tend to err on the side of caution - especially when there's no benefit to the cat. |
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From: Laura R.
PawsForThought ) said, Do you know what it's made out of? It's a vegetable soap. Natural, mild, and keeps wood well- conditioned. Good stuff, Maynard. :-) Cool! Thanks, Laura Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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From: Laura R.
PawsForThought ) said, Do you know what it's made out of? It's a vegetable soap. Natural, mild, and keeps wood well- conditioned. Good stuff, Maynard. :-) Cool! Thanks, Laura Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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"Yngver" wrote in message
... Phil P." wrote: n-butyl ether are very safe ingredients at levels used in cleaning products and do not cause kidney or liver failure. Are you disagreeing with their veterinary toxicologists here? No... I agree PG doesn't cause liver or kidney failure in cats (lthough hypoxia caused by anemia could damage any organ). PG causes Heinz bodies on feline hemoglobin that can cause hemolytic anemia. Several peer-reviewed studies confirm that fact. In 1992 the FDA banned the use of PG as a humacant in semimoist cat foods. Yes, the studies I have seen all relate to the feeding of cat foods containing PG. Also, I question whether cats exposed to normal household use of Swiffer products are going to come anywhere near a fraction of the level of 6-12 percent propylene glycol After the water component of the Swifter solution evaporates, the residue is probably nearly 100% PG. Maybe, but not according to the mfr. They say it doesn't leave a residue. Cats are in direct contact with the floor for most of their waking hours - some cats even sleep on the floor, too. Between absorption through the paws and skin and ingestion through grooming their contaminated coats, I think there's more than enough PG available to cause concern. That seems far-fetched to me--it seems quite a stretch to compare the amount of PG a cat would ingest through eating it in a couple packets of semi-moist food every day to the miniscule amount that *might* be absorbed through walking on a floor. Where my cats health is concerned, I tend to err on the side of caution - especially when there's no benefit to the cat. I understand. I don't even use Wetjet myself, but I do not believe there is reason for someone who does to panic thinking they have unwittingly killed their cat after reading a silly Internet hoax. |
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"Yngver" wrote in message
... Phil P." wrote: n-butyl ether are very safe ingredients at levels used in cleaning products and do not cause kidney or liver failure. Are you disagreeing with their veterinary toxicologists here? No... I agree PG doesn't cause liver or kidney failure in cats (lthough hypoxia caused by anemia could damage any organ). PG causes Heinz bodies on feline hemoglobin that can cause hemolytic anemia. Several peer-reviewed studies confirm that fact. In 1992 the FDA banned the use of PG as a humacant in semimoist cat foods. Yes, the studies I have seen all relate to the feeding of cat foods containing PG. Also, I question whether cats exposed to normal household use of Swiffer products are going to come anywhere near a fraction of the level of 6-12 percent propylene glycol After the water component of the Swifter solution evaporates, the residue is probably nearly 100% PG. Maybe, but not according to the mfr. They say it doesn't leave a residue. Cats are in direct contact with the floor for most of their waking hours - some cats even sleep on the floor, too. Between absorption through the paws and skin and ingestion through grooming their contaminated coats, I think there's more than enough PG available to cause concern. That seems far-fetched to me--it seems quite a stretch to compare the amount of PG a cat would ingest through eating it in a couple packets of semi-moist food every day to the miniscule amount that *might* be absorbed through walking on a floor. Where my cats health is concerned, I tend to err on the side of caution - especially when there's no benefit to the cat. I understand. I don't even use Wetjet myself, but I do not believe there is reason for someone who does to panic thinking they have unwittingly killed their cat after reading a silly Internet hoax. |
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