OT. New neighbours again

You are completely right. I'm sure that they think I'm a pushover,
especially as since they moved in I've hardly been here and I appear to have
difficulty walking. Poor disabled widow must be easy to bully, surely!
Wait until I'm up and running again



"Storrmmee" wrote in message
...
ps it just occurred to me getting the curb would provide an added
benefit... since tweed is on her own, they might feel she hasn't enough
funds to fight them, getting the curb done will at least give the
impression of her having more funds than they thought, which might back
them up a bit, like: "if she has enough money to get the curb put in,
maybe she has enough money for a good solicitor and legal battles",

Lee
"Yowie" wrote in message
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On 25/12/2011 9:21 AM, trubble wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

They came round with a solution.
"We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree
to
let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and
they
gave me something to sign.
I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to
let a
solicitor see this.
I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and
when
I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever
block me in.



Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low
spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have
some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'?

I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too
high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of
removing the existing curb, etc.

I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that
would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and
probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less
than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most.

If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the
local government would probably THANK me.

Dunno about the law there, but a ramp (whether by asphalt, rubber or
metal) is in the 'grey' area of whether its technically a driveway or
not.

And whether its considered under law as a driveway or not is important
because, at least here, its illegal to park a car on the street so as it
is across or partially across the driveway (in fact, the car has to be 1
metre or more away from either side of the driveway). But its 'debatable'
whether blocking access via ramps is legally the same as blocking access
via a driveway.

Therefore the neighbours may still be able to park in the street across
the place she put the ramps, depending on how the law classifies the
ramps. With a dropped kerb, the legal status crystal clear: they cannot
park across it.

Note: Here, if its your driveway into your property, whilst the exact
same law applies to your own driveway if you park in the street (ie, you
cannot park across or partially across your own driveway) you can still
park *in* it (ie, off the road, on your property).

As much as it sucks, it seems putting in your own dropped kerb and
therefore needing nothing and having nothing to do with the neighbours is
the best strategy.

Yowie

i will be praying this all goes well for you, staying on the right side of
the law sometimes costs more but even if it takes a while it generally gets
you a win, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

"trubble" wrote in message
...

Yes, well block *MY* ramp, at *YOUR* peril. End of problem.

I can tell you it would be a cold day in hell, before a nasty neighbor
cost me thousands of (dollars OR pounds) without the most severe of
repercussions.

Often, when dealing with assholes, it is best to settle things outside
of the courts, where logic and RIGHT prevails, and not who has the most
expensive lawyer...or solicitor, as you call them.

Assholes need to be dealt with in a manner that they deserve.

I prefer to keep on the right side of the law. There *will* be
repercussions in that they have now guaranteed complete non-co-operation
by me in anything they might want to do that involves, well, my
co-operation!
Tweed works in mysterious ways :-)

you are much like my friend gramby, hard to anger... but once done, its
sorta like trying to kiss a rattlesnake, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
You are completely right. I'm sure that they think I'm a pushover,
especially as since they moved in I've hardly been here and I appear to
have difficulty walking. Poor disabled widow must be easy to bully,
surely!
Wait until I'm up and running again



"Storrmmee" wrote in message
...
ps it just occurred to me getting the curb would provide an added
benefit... since tweed is on her own, they might feel she hasn't enough
funds to fight them, getting the curb done will at least give the
impression of her having more funds than they thought, which might back
them up a bit, like: "if she has enough money to get the curb put in,
maybe she has enough money for a good solicitor and legal battles",

Lee
"Yowie" wrote in message
...
On 25/12/2011 9:21 AM, trubble wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

They came round with a solution.
"We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree
to
let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window
and they
gave me something to sign.
I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to
let a
solicitor see this.
I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb
and when
I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot
ever
block me in.



Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low
spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have
some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'?

I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too
high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of
removing the existing curb, etc.

I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that
would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and
probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less
than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most.

If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the
local government would probably THANK me.

Dunno about the law there, but a ramp (whether by asphalt, rubber or
metal) is in the 'grey' area of whether its technically a driveway or
not.

And whether its considered under law as a driveway or not is important
because, at least here, its illegal to park a car on the street so as it
is across or partially across the driveway (in fact, the car has to be 1
metre or more away from either side of the driveway). But its
'debatable' whether blocking access via ramps is legally the same as
blocking access via a driveway.

Therefore the neighbours may still be able to park in the street across
the place she put the ramps, depending on how the law classifies the
ramps. With a dropped kerb, the legal status crystal clear: they cannot
park across it.

Note: Here, if its your driveway into your property, whilst the exact
same law applies to your own driveway if you park in the street (ie, you
cannot park across or partially across your own driveway) you can still
park *in* it (ie, off the road, on your property).

As much as it sucks, it seems putting in your own dropped kerb and
therefore needing nothing and having nothing to do with the neighbours
is the best strategy.

Yowie

I wouldn't be allowed to put asphalt down like that. I've spoken to the
local authority, they say I can have a drop kerb. I'm just waiting for the
form to come, when I fill it in and send back a small fee, they will send a
surveyor out to say exactly where and how it has to be installed. They
will also quote me for the work but I can also get my own contractor if it
is cheaper subject to the work being approved by the council after
installation. My brother says he knows someone who will do it.

"Storrmmee" wrote in message
...
that is the biggest question, if her local authortiy will such a thing, if
tweed lived in as rural an area as she does there no problem, but iirc
from reading elswhere they are far more strict,... iirc tweed is
responsible for rats on her property even though its rural... here in us
you are only responsible if they can prove the rats caused damage, or are
overrunning a property next door, Lee
"trubble" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

They came round with a solution.
"We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to
let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and
they
gave me something to sign.
I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let
a
solicitor see this.
I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and
when
I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever
block me in.



Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low
spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have
some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'?

I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too
high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of
removing the existing curb, etc.

I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that
would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and
probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less
than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most.

If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the
local government would probably THANK me.

"Bobble" wrote in message
...
"Christina Websell" wrote in
:

They came round with a solution.
"We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree
to let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window
and they gave me something to sign.
I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to
let a solicitor see this.
I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb
and when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they
cannot ever block me in.

What a bunch of a@@holes! Screw them and their "solution".

Ain't that just the truth ;-)

something i am wondering about is that wall they put up on your property,
here in the us you have limited time from the time you are aware of the
encroachment until they have rights because you did nothing, in some
jurisdictions its quite a short time in others much longer, not trying to be
a worry wart but it really honks me off they are doing this all at once, Lee


ps glad you are getting on with the curb, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't be allowed to put asphalt down like that. I've spoken to the
local authority, they say I can have a drop kerb. I'm just waiting for the
form to come, when I fill it in and send back a small fee, they will send a
surveyor out to say exactly where and how it has to be installed. They
will also quote me for the work but I can also get my own contractor if it
is cheaper subject to the work being approved by the council after
installation. My brother says he knows someone who will do it.

"Storrmmee" wrote in message
...
that is the biggest question, if her local authortiy will such a thing,
if tweed lived in as rural an area as she does there no problem, but iirc
from reading elswhere they are far more strict,... iirc tweed is
responsible for rats on her property even though its rural... here in us
you are only responsible if they can prove the rats caused damage, or are
overrunning a property next door, Lee
"trubble" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:47:01 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

They came round with a solution.
"We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree
to
let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and
they
gave me something to sign.
I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let
a
solicitor see this.
I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and
when
I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot ever
block me in.



Rather than having the existing curb removed and replaced with a 'low
spot' you can drive your car over, would it be possible to simply have
some hot asphalt put down to make a short 'ramp'?

I've seen where this has been done, and if the existing curb isn't too
high, it does work very well, at a SMALL fraction of the cost of
removing the existing curb, etc.

I have bought bags of cold asphalt mix at a building supply store that
would work; they were 40 lb (18 KG). It's work to put it in, and
probably not as durable as hot asphalt, but probably would cost less
than $100, and only take a few hours to put into place, at most.

If it was me, I would just DO this. But, I live in America, where the
local government would probably THANK me.

"Storrmmee" wrote:
something i am wondering about is that wall they put up on your property,
here in the us you have limited time from the time you are aware of the
encroachment until they have rights because you did nothing, in some
jurisdictions its quite a short time in others much longer, not trying to be
a worry wart but it really honks me off they are doing this all at once, Lee


ps glad you are getting on with the curb, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...


Nothing to worry about, Lee, under English law Tweed has up to 12 years to
complain.
--
Adrian

So, in addition to being hostile, rude and sociopathic, they're also stupid.

Joyce

Christina Websell wrote:

Of course it's a set up! Now I would think they'd try to impress me as I
"duly considered" their proposal, by making sure I could get my car out in
the meantime, but apparently not..


"Storrmmee" wrote in message
...
so its been a set up from the beginning, i would take pictures every
single time anything arises, oh do be careful, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
They came round with a solution.
"We've decided that we will let you get your car out if you will agree to
let us do this.. build a 6ft 1 wall in front of your kitchen window and
they gave me something to sign.
I was quite kind and took their letter and said I might have have to let
a solicitor see this.
I have been in touch with the council about having my own drop kerb and
when I get this permission (which I will) I will do this so they cannot
ever block me in.

wrote in message
...
So, in addition to being hostile, rude and sociopathic, they're also
stupid.
Christina Websell wrote:

Of course it's a set up! Now I would think they'd try to impress me as
I
"duly considered" their proposal, by making sure I could get my car out
in
the meantime, but apparently not..


I've been blocked in most of the time, what if Boyfie needed the vet
urgently?
They are just more than stupid and they have seriously annoyed me which is a
bad idea.
I am usually quite kind but they have taken me beyond patience now.
I don't know why they are such a* h*les but it seems to come naturally.
As if I don't have enough to put with atm with my broken bones, I get them
too :-(
Tweed

I will win, I can assure you.
It will be horribly difficult for them to remove their trees without setting
a foot on my property.
They will have to get a crane in and put up scaffolding over their garage.
It will cost them loads. What a pity :-)

It could have all been avoided had they been OK about sharing the dropped
kerb between our properties, like it was always done.
I will not hop with my broken ankle more than once to plead with them to
move their car.
I can drive, but only nearby. I made sure I can do an emergency stop and I
can. Poor Mr F is suffering from me not being able to drive and his battery
is well down. so my brother is taking it to charge it up, then I will be out
and about with him.




"Storrmmee" wrote in message
...
i will be praying this all goes well for you, staying on the right side of
the law sometimes costs more but even if it takes a while it generally gets
you a win, Lee
"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

"trubble" wrote in message
...

Yes, well block *MY* ramp, at *YOUR* peril. End of problem.

I can tell you it would be a cold day in hell, before a nasty neighbor
cost me thousands of (dollars OR pounds) without the most severe of
repercussions.

Often, when dealing with assholes, it is best to settle things outside
of the courts, where logic and RIGHT prevails, and not who has the most
expensive lawyer...or solicitor, as you call them.

Assholes need to be dealt with in a manner that they deserve.

I prefer to keep on the right side of the law. There *will* be
repercussions in that they have now guaranteed complete non-co-operation
by me in anything they might want to do that involves, well, my
co-operation!
Tweed works in mysterious ways :-)