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Too young to catch mice?
you actually have a lot to learn about cats
wrote in message ... Oh, good KEeerist~!!~ snipped |
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Too young to catch mice?
On Nov 21, 4:07*pm, "Matthew"
wrote: you actually have a lot to learn about cats Absolutely. Every day, a bit more. But I am not blind to their needs and nature as you appear to be - OK, perhaps 'blind' is an imprecise word but it is either that or denial. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Too young to catch mice?
ROFLMAO
Sorry not blind or in denial but why would I want to debate or explain this with a 3 time poster. Stick around you will learn something wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 4:07 pm, "Matthew" wrote: you actually have a lot to learn about cats snipped |
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Too young to catch mice?
wrote in message ... Oh, good KEeerist~!!~ Please note the interpolations. On Nov 19, 1:46 pm, "Matthew" wrote: Ok than ignore my posts but when you post what you did What do you think we are going to think 1 call an exterminator rats and mice carry disease and you could kill your cat Rats and mice carry disease, true. But cats are feral creatures which in order to be complete (as a cat) must hunt. Domesticated cats are not "feral creatures." Idiot. |
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Too young to catch mice?
wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 4:07 pm, "Matthew" wrote: you actually have a lot to learn about cats Absolutely. Every day, a bit more. But I am not blind to their needs and nature as you appear to be - OK, perhaps 'blind' is an imprecise word but it is either that or denial. It is not that you have a lot to learn, it is that you are a moron. Cats have no "need" to hunt when you're feeding them every day. Play takes care of the stalking and pouncing and "killing" instincts. My tabby conquers a rubber snake several times a day with great howling and presents it to me proudly. She also catches an occasional mouse, but does not injest them or even draw blood from what I can see. If there was evidence that she was eating them I would be concerned. |
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Too young to catch mice?
"cybercat" Hey I am trying to be a nice guy for the holidays :-) Who got hold of your giblets gobble gobble evil smileevil laugh running for cover |
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Too young to catch mice?
On Nov 21, 6:33*pm, "cybercat" wrote:
Domesticated cats are not "feral creatures." Idiot. Now, who has a lot to learn about cats? Although well-fed cats do not 'need' to hunt, they make the best ratters historically. They hunt for sport - much as the rubber-snake hunter hunts for the best it can get. But it would be infinitely happier if that snake were to surprise it one day - and give it a genuine challenge. Writing of snakes and cats, many families in Arabia, India and North Africa living in the countryside keep cats against snakes rather than any other animal. Cats are much faster than ferrets or mongooses to that end - and also appear to understand the danger in snakes more clearly than either of the other two. One of my staff (Indian) when I was working in Saudi had pictures of his cat with her snake kills - she was 15 in the latest picture I saw. He described her as a 2-kilo cat (about 4.5 pounds) - and its largest kill was a 150cm cobra (about 5 feet). But much as cats are obligatory carnivores, they also must hunt for their health and sanity. We may have committed several hundred years of genetic modifications to cats, but just as every dog thinks it is a wolf, every cat thinks it is a tiger. To believe otherwise is to be in acute denial of the evolutionary imperative that resulted in the cat in the first place. Now, humans come along and wish to adapt their cats to a sedentary life-style, feed them primarily on grains and deny where they came from and why they came from there. How nice for the humans, how wretchedly awful for their cats. Please don't think I believe cats should be fed on raw meat and forced to 'adapt or die', breed at will, go unvetted. Not hardly. But they should be able to explore the entirety of their natures - hopefully in reasonable safety - but at least that much. They are feral - any reasonably healthy cat even on short notice can adapt to a predatory life (asuming that game is available) if the worst should happen. That is NOT a desirable state, of course, but it is in their nature and one of their innate abilities. Just as humans have canine teeth for tearing raw meat. Not something we would like to do on a daily basis - but isn't it nice to know that it is possible in a pinch? If we wish to manage the nature of our cats (and ourselves) for the best possible life for them (and ourselves) we had damned well better understand them (and ourselves). Cats choose to live with humans - but of all our pets capable of actual interaction with us, they have the least need to do so. We observe lots of displacement behavior in our cats - it cannot possibly be because they are innate hunters and miss the sport and the rush - so we re-define it. Sad for the cat, conscience-appeasing for us. But twaddle either way. Again, don't keep a dog unless it can run every day until it is tired (we have two). Don't keep a cat unless it can interact with its environment, hunt, explore and be curious. Something new every day. Do some research: the territorial range of a healthy, well-fed adult male cat (being neutered does not appear to make a difference) vs. the size of even a large house - or an apartment. And then a female (again, neutering does not appear to make much of a difference). Unless one knows and understands these things, a great deal is just lost to the keeper and the cat. http://www.boop.org/jan/justso/cat.htm Another time, another age, but Kipling got it pretty much right. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Too young to catch mice?
"Matthew" wrote in message ng.com... "cybercat" Hey I am trying to be a nice guy for the holidays :-) Who got hold of your giblets gobble gobble evil smileevil laugh running for cover At least I'm consistent. |
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wrote: Another time, another age, but Kipling got it pretty much right. No he didn't. |
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Too young to catch mice?
wrote in message ... On Nov 21, 6:33 pm, "cybercat" wrote: Domesticated cats are not "feral creatures." Idiot. Now, who has a lot to learn about cats? http://www.boop.org/jan/justso/cat.htm Jesus. Are you serious?? Rudyard Kipling? He wrote fanciful fiction, moron. And he lived 150 years ago, before cars, before the widespread urbanization of so many countries. Please go away. And take the other aggressively stupid people with you. |
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