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Old September 21st 03, 05:38 AM
Cheryl
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GAUBSTER2 composed with style:

Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used
to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who
parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all.


Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph.

I did
do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by
various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide
anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and
noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats.


Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten
in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats
with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID
and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the
advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to
have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm
positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet
didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help"
him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness,
cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up
life.

Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any
statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's
prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it.


  #502  
Old September 21st 03, 05:38 AM
Cheryl
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In ,
GAUBSTER2 composed with style:

Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used
to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who
parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all.


Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph.

I did
do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by
various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide
anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and
noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats.


Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten
in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats
with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID
and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the
advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to
have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm
positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet
didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help"
him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness,
cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up
life.

Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any
statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's
prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it.


  #503  
Old September 21st 03, 08:48 PM
PawsForThought
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From: "Cheryl"

,
GAUBSTER2 composed with style:

Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used
to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who
parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all.


Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph.

I did
do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by
various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide
anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and
noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats.


Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten
in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats
with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID
and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the
advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to
have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm
positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet
didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help"
him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness,
cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up
life.

Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any
statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's
prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it.


I had a cat with CRF. She also threw up a lot and most likely had IBD at the
end stages. We tried Science Diet prescription foods but they absolutely did
not help her either

Lauren
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #504  
Old September 21st 03, 08:48 PM
PawsForThought
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From: "Cheryl"

,
GAUBSTER2 composed with style:

Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used
to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who
parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all.


Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph.

I did
do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by
various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide
anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and
noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats.


Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten
in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats
with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID
and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the
advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to
have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm
positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet
didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help"
him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness,
cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up
life.

Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any
statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's
prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it.


I had a cat with CRF. She also threw up a lot and most likely had IBD at the
end stages. We tried Science Diet prescription foods but they absolutely did
not help her either

Lauren
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #505  
Old September 21st 03, 08:48 PM
PawsForThought
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From: "Cheryl"

,
GAUBSTER2 composed with style:

Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used
to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who
parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all.


Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph.

I did
do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by
various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide
anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and
noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats.


Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten
in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats
with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID
and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the
advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to
have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm
positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet
didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help"
him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness,
cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up
life.

Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any
statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's
prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it.


I had a cat with CRF. She also threw up a lot and most likely had IBD at the
end stages. We tried Science Diet prescription foods but they absolutely did
not help her either

Lauren
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #506  
Old October 1st 03, 02:59 AM
Brian or Sharon Beuchaw
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Phil P. wrote:

Your quite welcome. I hope it helps.

Keep us posted.

Best of luck.

Phil.


Just a quick update - canned food seems to be working decently for both
cats, we just need to figure out portion sizes and can sizes that work
best for the least leftover after feeding times.

But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and
found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the
food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure
ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or
other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain
ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't
look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got
all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself.
Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use
without any additives and is easily obtainable?

Also, if y'all were following the other thread about introducing our new
kitten, it appears that our older female just isn't going to accept her,
so we're going to have to take her back to the rescue society we got her
from (it was the last resort, but it's been 2 months and it's not fair to
the kitten, our existing cat, or us to deal with all the stress and
unpleasant atmosphere).

Thanks again for the helpful info.....

brian
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  #507  
Old October 1st 03, 02:59 AM
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Phil P. wrote:

Your quite welcome. I hope it helps.

Keep us posted.

Best of luck.

Phil.


Just a quick update - canned food seems to be working decently for both
cats, we just need to figure out portion sizes and can sizes that work
best for the least leftover after feeding times.

But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and
found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the
food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure
ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or
other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain
ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't
look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got
all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself.
Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use
without any additives and is easily obtainable?

Also, if y'all were following the other thread about introducing our new
kitten, it appears that our older female just isn't going to accept her,
so we're going to have to take her back to the rescue society we got her
from (it was the last resort, but it's been 2 months and it's not fair to
the kitten, our existing cat, or us to deal with all the stress and
unpleasant atmosphere).

Thanks again for the helpful info.....

brian
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  #508  
Old October 1st 03, 02:59 AM
Brian or Sharon Beuchaw
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Phil P. wrote:

Your quite welcome. I hope it helps.

Keep us posted.

Best of luck.

Phil.


Just a quick update - canned food seems to be working decently for both
cats, we just need to figure out portion sizes and can sizes that work
best for the least leftover after feeding times.

But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and
found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the
food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure
ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or
other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain
ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't
look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got
all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself.
Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use
without any additives and is easily obtainable?

Also, if y'all were following the other thread about introducing our new
kitten, it appears that our older female just isn't going to accept her,
so we're going to have to take her back to the rescue society we got her
from (it was the last resort, but it's been 2 months and it's not fair to
the kitten, our existing cat, or us to deal with all the stress and
unpleasant atmosphere).

Thanks again for the helpful info.....

brian
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  #509  
Old October 1st 03, 03:57 PM
Alison Perera
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In article ,
Brian or Sharon Beuchaw wrote:

But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and
found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the
food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure
ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or
other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain
ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't
look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got
all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself.
Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use
without any additives and is easily obtainable?


While you should be able to find ground psyllium husk at a health food
store, I highly recommend a gentler soluble fiber like canned pumpkin
(not the pie filling with additives, just 100% pure packed pumpkin). As
a bonus, many cats like the taste.

-Alison in OH
  #510  
Old October 1st 03, 03:57 PM
Alison Perera
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In article ,
Brian or Sharon Beuchaw wrote:

But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and
found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the
food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure
ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or
other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain
ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't
look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got
all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself.
Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use
without any additives and is easily obtainable?


While you should be able to find ground psyllium husk at a health food
store, I highly recommend a gentler soluble fiber like canned pumpkin
(not the pie filling with additives, just 100% pure packed pumpkin). As
a bonus, many cats like the taste.

-Alison in OH
 




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