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GAUBSTER2 composed with style: Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all. Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph. I did do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats. Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help" him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness, cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up life. Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it. |
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GAUBSTER2 composed with style: Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all. Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph. I did do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats. Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help" him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness, cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up life. Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it. |
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From: "Cheryl"
, GAUBSTER2 composed with style: Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all. Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph. I did do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats. Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help" him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness, cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up life. Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it. I had a cat with CRF. She also threw up a lot and most likely had IBD at the end stages. We tried Science Diet prescription foods but they absolutely did not help her either Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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From: "Cheryl"
, GAUBSTER2 composed with style: Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all. Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph. I did do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats. Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help" him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness, cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up life. Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it. I had a cat with CRF. She also threw up a lot and most likely had IBD at the end stages. We tried Science Diet prescription foods but they absolutely did not help her either Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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Phil P. wrote:
Your quite welcome. I hope it helps. Keep us posted. Best of luck. Phil. Just a quick update - canned food seems to be working decently for both cats, we just need to figure out portion sizes and can sizes that work best for the least leftover after feeding times. But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself. Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use without any additives and is easily obtainable? Also, if y'all were following the other thread about introducing our new kitten, it appears that our older female just isn't going to accept her, so we're going to have to take her back to the rescue society we got her from (it was the last resort, but it's been 2 months and it's not fair to the kitten, our existing cat, or us to deal with all the stress and unpleasant atmosphere). Thanks again for the helpful info..... brian -- If you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to |
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Phil P. wrote:
Your quite welcome. I hope it helps. Keep us posted. Best of luck. Phil. Just a quick update - canned food seems to be working decently for both cats, we just need to figure out portion sizes and can sizes that work best for the least leftover after feeding times. But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself. Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use without any additives and is easily obtainable? Also, if y'all were following the other thread about introducing our new kitten, it appears that our older female just isn't going to accept her, so we're going to have to take her back to the rescue society we got her from (it was the last resort, but it's been 2 months and it's not fair to the kitten, our existing cat, or us to deal with all the stress and unpleasant atmosphere). Thanks again for the helpful info..... brian -- If you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to |
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Phil P. wrote:
Your quite welcome. I hope it helps. Keep us posted. Best of luck. Phil. Just a quick update - canned food seems to be working decently for both cats, we just need to figure out portion sizes and can sizes that work best for the least leftover after feeding times. But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself. Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use without any additives and is easily obtainable? Also, if y'all were following the other thread about introducing our new kitten, it appears that our older female just isn't going to accept her, so we're going to have to take her back to the rescue society we got her from (it was the last resort, but it's been 2 months and it's not fair to the kitten, our existing cat, or us to deal with all the stress and unpleasant atmosphere). Thanks again for the helpful info..... brian -- If you want to reply to this message by mail, you will have to change the reply address to |
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw wrote: But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself. Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use without any additives and is easily obtainable? While you should be able to find ground psyllium husk at a health food store, I highly recommend a gentler soluble fiber like canned pumpkin (not the pie filling with additives, just 100% pure packed pumpkin). As a bonus, many cats like the taste. -Alison in OH |
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw wrote: But the cats's stools seem to be fairly loose, so I've been googling and found that ground psyllium is probably OK to use in small amounts on the food to give them normal turds again. I would like to use just pure ground psyllium, but most manufacturers either put sugar (Metamucil) or other ingredients in them. What's the easiest way to get just plain ground psyllium? I thought that Colon Cleanse would be OK, but it doesn't look like it's ground. Then I checked out GNC's products and they've got all kinds of other stuff with ground psyllium, but nothing by itself. Does anybody have any brand names of anything that would be safe to use without any additives and is easily obtainable? While you should be able to find ground psyllium husk at a health food store, I highly recommend a gentler soluble fiber like canned pumpkin (not the pie filling with additives, just 100% pure packed pumpkin). As a bonus, many cats like the taste. -Alison in OH |
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