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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:27:37 GMT, Victor Martinez
wrote:

Adrian wrote:
I find it amazing how many things are against the law in the land of the
free. ;-)

And don't get me started on those nazi-like home owner's associations
that mandate how long your grass must be or even what color you must
paint your house!!!

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think my sister lives
within city limits. So it was probably a home owners association that
had a ban on trucks in the drive way that I posted about out in
California rather than a city ordinance.
--
Steve Touchstone,
faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB)

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:27:37 GMT, Victor Martinez
wrote:

Adrian wrote:
I find it amazing how many things are against the law in the land of the
free. ;-)

And don't get me started on those nazi-like home owner's associations
that mandate how long your grass must be or even what color you must
paint your house!!!

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think my sister lives
within city limits. So it was probably a home owners association that
had a ban on trucks in the drive way that I posted about out in
California rather than a city ordinance.
--
Steve Touchstone,
faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB)

[remove Junk for email]
Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html
Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:27:37 GMT, Victor Martinez
wrote:

Adrian wrote:
I find it amazing how many things are against the law in the land of the
free. ;-)

And don't get me started on those nazi-like home owner's associations
that mandate how long your grass must be or even what color you must
paint your house!!!

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think my sister lives
within city limits. So it was probably a home owners association that
had a ban on trucks in the drive way that I posted about out in
California rather than a city ordinance.
--
Steve Touchstone,
faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB)

[remove Junk for email]
Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html
Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html

"Bobcat" wrote in message
...

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Victor Martinez wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
And you can't now? Why? Although I prefer to compost them, I
could
burn them if I wanted to.

In many places in the US, it is against the law to burn leaves.
Pollution, I think, is the main concern.

That has got to be a joke. US is worried about pollution from burning
leaves. That's amazing when US won't sign the Kyoto agreement about using
too much gas. (petrol) They need to worry about that.

I find it amazing how many things are against the law in the land of
the
free. ;-)

Or the land of the maple leaf...


Is it the same in Canada?
I can do all these things in Britain - but I'm sure to have forgotten some.
I can burn leaves, in fact I can have a bonfire for garden waste whenever I
like. Burning car tyres is frowned upon, but you'd probably get away with
it unless your neighbour rang up the authorities and complained.

I can let my cats out, they don't have to go out on a harness.

If my cats do anything naughty while they're out (Bast forbid) I'm not
responsible for it.

I have access to a vet 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. A vet that cannot
only treat cats and dogs, but anything else I might have, like goats, horses
and reptiles. (I'm in the middle of an argument on one of my other groups.
It's mainly Brits, but there are worldwide posters too.)
It seems like in the USA vets can choose the species they want to doctor,
and just specialise in a few species, like just bring me a cat or dog and
forget about your ferret. Tough, I don't do them.

*SO* this USA vet has joined in with the posts on this other group. She
seems a bit arrogant. Declawing came up and I'm afraid I flamed her about
it. She said she would only declaw a cat for medical reasons, like a really
bad infection in the nailbed, and she would never declaw one "for elective
purposes." That was all very well until she said she'd refer someone on to
another vet to have it done.
It eases her conscience of course that she won't do elective declawing
herself, but yet she refers on to another vet so it can be done!
I flamed her quite a lot actually, and normally I don't like to do that to
anyone.
I asked her if she knew how much front declawed kitties had difficulties
with the litterbox afterwards and how this could lead to behavioural
problems. (I learnt this from this group, thanks to you Americans)
I wanted the declawing link that I now don't have, to show the other folks
that were joining in how bad it was for the kitties. I never viewed it,
because I knew I wouldn't be able to look at it. So can someone who might
still have it send it again, and I'll post it for everyone to see on this
other group and see how much they then agree with this vet.

My stance on it is this. Cats come with claws front and back. If you don't
like this idea, don't get one. It is really as simple as that.

It's sort of like de-barking a dog. Everyone knows that dogs bark. When I
had them (and I sorely miss them) I liked it when they asked to go outside
to bark, because I knew that they'd heard something suspicious. So, well
just maybe, there might have been a burglar thinking about breaking into my
house and the dogs barking made him think again.
I never object when my neighbour's dogs bark. I think of it as a free
burglar alarm system.

Tweed

"Bobcat" wrote in message
...

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Victor Martinez wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
And you can't now? Why? Although I prefer to compost them, I
could
burn them if I wanted to.

In many places in the US, it is against the law to burn leaves.
Pollution, I think, is the main concern.

That has got to be a joke. US is worried about pollution from burning
leaves. That's amazing when US won't sign the Kyoto agreement about using
too much gas. (petrol) They need to worry about that.

I find it amazing how many things are against the law in the land of
the
free. ;-)

Or the land of the maple leaf...


Is it the same in Canada?
I can do all these things in Britain - but I'm sure to have forgotten some.
I can burn leaves, in fact I can have a bonfire for garden waste whenever I
like. Burning car tyres is frowned upon, but you'd probably get away with
it unless your neighbour rang up the authorities and complained.

I can let my cats out, they don't have to go out on a harness.

If my cats do anything naughty while they're out (Bast forbid) I'm not
responsible for it.

I have access to a vet 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. A vet that cannot
only treat cats and dogs, but anything else I might have, like goats, horses
and reptiles. (I'm in the middle of an argument on one of my other groups.
It's mainly Brits, but there are worldwide posters too.)
It seems like in the USA vets can choose the species they want to doctor,
and just specialise in a few species, like just bring me a cat or dog and
forget about your ferret. Tough, I don't do them.

*SO* this USA vet has joined in with the posts on this other group. She
seems a bit arrogant. Declawing came up and I'm afraid I flamed her about
it. She said she would only declaw a cat for medical reasons, like a really
bad infection in the nailbed, and she would never declaw one "for elective
purposes." That was all very well until she said she'd refer someone on to
another vet to have it done.
It eases her conscience of course that she won't do elective declawing
herself, but yet she refers on to another vet so it can be done!
I flamed her quite a lot actually, and normally I don't like to do that to
anyone.
I asked her if she knew how much front declawed kitties had difficulties
with the litterbox afterwards and how this could lead to behavioural
problems. (I learnt this from this group, thanks to you Americans)
I wanted the declawing link that I now don't have, to show the other folks
that were joining in how bad it was for the kitties. I never viewed it,
because I knew I wouldn't be able to look at it. So can someone who might
still have it send it again, and I'll post it for everyone to see on this
other group and see how much they then agree with this vet.

My stance on it is this. Cats come with claws front and back. If you don't
like this idea, don't get one. It is really as simple as that.

It's sort of like de-barking a dog. Everyone knows that dogs bark. When I
had them (and I sorely miss them) I liked it when they asked to go outside
to bark, because I knew that they'd heard something suspicious. So, well
just maybe, there might have been a burglar thinking about breaking into my
house and the dogs barking made him think again.
I never object when my neighbour's dogs bark. I think of it as a free
burglar alarm system.

Tweed

"Bobcat" wrote in message
...

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
Victor Martinez wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
And you can't now? Why? Although I prefer to compost them, I
could
burn them if I wanted to.

In many places in the US, it is against the law to burn leaves.
Pollution, I think, is the main concern.

That has got to be a joke. US is worried about pollution from burning
leaves. That's amazing when US won't sign the Kyoto agreement about using
too much gas. (petrol) They need to worry about that.

I find it amazing how many things are against the law in the land of
the
free. ;-)

Or the land of the maple leaf...


Is it the same in Canada?
I can do all these things in Britain - but I'm sure to have forgotten some.
I can burn leaves, in fact I can have a bonfire for garden waste whenever I
like. Burning car tyres is frowned upon, but you'd probably get away with
it unless your neighbour rang up the authorities and complained.

I can let my cats out, they don't have to go out on a harness.

If my cats do anything naughty while they're out (Bast forbid) I'm not
responsible for it.

I have access to a vet 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. A vet that cannot
only treat cats and dogs, but anything else I might have, like goats, horses
and reptiles. (I'm in the middle of an argument on one of my other groups.
It's mainly Brits, but there are worldwide posters too.)
It seems like in the USA vets can choose the species they want to doctor,
and just specialise in a few species, like just bring me a cat or dog and
forget about your ferret. Tough, I don't do them.

*SO* this USA vet has joined in with the posts on this other group. She
seems a bit arrogant. Declawing came up and I'm afraid I flamed her about
it. She said she would only declaw a cat for medical reasons, like a really
bad infection in the nailbed, and she would never declaw one "for elective
purposes." That was all very well until she said she'd refer someone on to
another vet to have it done.
It eases her conscience of course that she won't do elective declawing
herself, but yet she refers on to another vet so it can be done!
I flamed her quite a lot actually, and normally I don't like to do that to
anyone.
I asked her if she knew how much front declawed kitties had difficulties
with the litterbox afterwards and how this could lead to behavioural
problems. (I learnt this from this group, thanks to you Americans)
I wanted the declawing link that I now don't have, to show the other folks
that were joining in how bad it was for the kitties. I never viewed it,
because I knew I wouldn't be able to look at it. So can someone who might
still have it send it again, and I'll post it for everyone to see on this
other group and see how much they then agree with this vet.

My stance on it is this. Cats come with claws front and back. If you don't
like this idea, don't get one. It is really as simple as that.

It's sort of like de-barking a dog. Everyone knows that dogs bark. When I
had them (and I sorely miss them) I liked it when they asked to go outside
to bark, because I knew that they'd heard something suspicious. So, well
just maybe, there might have been a burglar thinking about breaking into my
house and the dogs barking made him think again.
I never object when my neighbour's dogs bark. I think of it as a free
burglar alarm system.

Tweed

Victor Martinez wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
And you can't now? Why? Although I prefer to compost them, I could
burn them if I wanted to.

In many places in the US, it is against the law to burn leaves.
Pollution, I think, is the main concern.


Not so much polution as much as a brush fire hazard. *Some* people are
stupid enough to rake up a big pile of leaves, set it ablaze and then go
back inside to watch the game... and then are puzzled when their insurance
refuses their claim after their house burns down (if they even have
insurance, that is).

Where I live, you CAN burn leaves, but if a nieghbour calls the fire
department & they come out *AND* you are not attending the blaze with an
active water hose in your hand, you will A) be fined for an unattended fire
and B) get billed for the use of the fire department's equipment (and that
will include a water usage fee for them hooking up to the nearby fire
plug/hydrant) and man hours, which will probably be more than the fine.
--?
The ONE and ONLY
lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy
former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at
nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com
http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep

Victor Martinez wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
And you can't now? Why? Although I prefer to compost them, I could
burn them if I wanted to.

In many places in the US, it is against the law to burn leaves.
Pollution, I think, is the main concern.


Not so much polution as much as a brush fire hazard. *Some* people are
stupid enough to rake up a big pile of leaves, set it ablaze and then go
back inside to watch the game... and then are puzzled when their insurance
refuses their claim after their house burns down (if they even have
insurance, that is).

Where I live, you CAN burn leaves, but if a nieghbour calls the fire
department & they come out *AND* you are not attending the blaze with an
active water hose in your hand, you will A) be fined for an unattended fire
and B) get billed for the use of the fire department's equipment (and that
will include a water usage fee for them hooking up to the nearby fire
plug/hydrant) and man hours, which will probably be more than the fine.
--?
The ONE and ONLY
lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy
former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at
nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com
http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep

Victor Martinez wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
And you can't now? Why? Although I prefer to compost them, I could
burn them if I wanted to.

In many places in the US, it is against the law to burn leaves.
Pollution, I think, is the main concern.


Not so much polution as much as a brush fire hazard. *Some* people are
stupid enough to rake up a big pile of leaves, set it ablaze and then go
back inside to watch the game... and then are puzzled when their insurance
refuses their claim after their house burns down (if they even have
insurance, that is).

Where I live, you CAN burn leaves, but if a nieghbour calls the fire
department & they come out *AND* you are not attending the blaze with an
active water hose in your hand, you will A) be fined for an unattended fire
and B) get billed for the use of the fire department's equipment (and that
will include a water usage fee for them hooking up to the nearby fire
plug/hydrant) and man hours, which will probably be more than the fine.
--?
The ONE and ONLY
lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy
former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at
nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com
http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep

Steve Touchstone wrote:

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think my sister lives
within city limits. So it was probably a home owners association that
had a ban on trucks in the drive way that I posted about out in
California rather than a city ordinance.

It must have been. Can cities even do this? Whereas, a homeowners
association is a private entity, and can have whatever rules they want,
pretty much.

Joyce