Just read about what is really in cat food

I just read a book called "Food Pets Die For" and it is horrifying!!!
This woman did an extensive study about the ingredients which go into
cat and dog food. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized
cats and dogs in their formula, as well as all of the spoiled and
diseased parts of animals which are not fit for human consumption. In
some cases, the protein ingredients in cat food are actually heat
treated feathers and hair, and sometimes heat treated fecal matter.
There is even road kill in some cat food. Some brands, including Iams,
Eukanuba, and Science Diet, fund cruel animal experiments on cats and
dogs at universities. They give to good causes as well, but, wow...
Some of the pet food companies which have healthier ingredients are
Petguard, Natura, and some others (cant remember)

I've been buying Wellness brand canned food for Brio. It's the only brand
I've ever seen that says it contains human grade meats.


"kate" wrote in message
om...
I just read a book called "Food Pets Die For" and it is horrifying!!!
This woman did an extensive study about the ingredients which go into
cat and dog food. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized
cats and dogs in their formula, as well as all of the spoiled and
diseased parts of animals which are not fit for human consumption. In
some cases, the protein ingredients in cat food are actually heat
treated feathers and hair, and sometimes heat treated fecal matter.
There is even road kill in some cat food. Some brands, including Iams,
Eukanuba, and Science Diet, fund cruel animal experiments on cats and
dogs at universities. They give to good causes as well, but, wow...
Some of the pet food companies which have healthier ingredients are
Petguard, Natura, and some others (cant remember)

Think of the birds, mice, whatever cats will eat. Human grade? ;-)

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon

"Kim" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
I've been buying Wellness brand canned food for Brio. It's the only brand
I've ever seen that says it contains human grade meats.


"kate" wrote in message
om...
I just read a book called "Food Pets Die For" and it is horrifying!!!
This woman did an extensive study about the ingredients which go into
cat and dog food. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized
cats and dogs in their formula, as well as all of the spoiled and
diseased parts of animals which are not fit for human consumption. In
some cases, the protein ingredients in cat food are actually heat
treated feathers and hair, and sometimes heat treated fecal matter.
There is even road kill in some cat food. Some brands, including Iams,
Eukanuba, and Science Diet, fund cruel animal experiments on cats and
dogs at universities. They give to good causes as well, but, wow...
Some of the pet food companies which have healthier ingredients are
Petguard, Natura, and some others (cant remember)

Think of the birds, mice, whatever cats will eat. Human grade? ;-)

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon

"Kim" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
I've been buying Wellness brand canned food for Brio. It's the only brand
I've ever seen that says it contains human grade meats.


"kate" wrote in message
om...
I just read a book called "Food Pets Die For" and it is horrifying!!!
This woman did an extensive study about the ingredients which go into
cat and dog food. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized
cats and dogs in their formula, as well as all of the spoiled and
diseased parts of animals which are not fit for human consumption. In
some cases, the protein ingredients in cat food are actually heat
treated feathers and hair, and sometimes heat treated fecal matter.
There is even road kill in some cat food. Some brands, including Iams,
Eukanuba, and Science Diet, fund cruel animal experiments on cats and
dogs at universities. They give to good causes as well, but, wow...
Some of the pet food companies which have healthier ingredients are
Petguard, Natura, and some others (cant remember)

"Kim" wrote in message ble.rogers.com...
I've been buying Wellness brand canned food for Brio. It's the only brand
I've ever seen that says it contains human grade meats.



You should be aware that the term "Human Grade" means absoutely
NOTHING under law. In fact it has been so misused by various companies
that the term is being considered for legislation to stop the misuse
of the term and the deception of consumers.

Companies used the term "organic" then the law stepped in and made
them actually be organic - now there are no companies using the term
organic- wonder why?

Then came "All Natural" and the law stepped in and made them actually
be "All Natural" what happened to all those hundreds of companies
claiming to be "All Natural" they moved on to...

"Holistic" and "Human Grade" - another meaningless term with
absolutely no teeth whatsoever. I could market used crankcase oil and
sewage and call it holistic and human grade it would mean nothing.
When "human grade" gets smacked by the law, these same companies will
move on to other terms that have no meaning at all but fool consumers
everyday. There ought to be a pool for the next meaningless term to be
created by a fanciful marketing department.

I'd have to disagree with Steve. Some companies *do* use human grade
ingredients. Ingredients that are inspected and past as "fit for
human consumption." One company that I know of actually produces
their product in USDA kitchens and as you are aware these facilities
only produce foods that are fit for human consumption.

May I ask Steve what "law" stepped in and made them change the
wording? The only regulations that I am aware of within the pet food
industry are those that govern the labeling text. As far as the
ingredients used, anything is fair game. The AAFCO sets guidelines
and it is up to each state to adopt these guidelines. In reading the
"ingredient definitions" which the AAFCO lists, I'd be a little
concerned. "hydrolyzed hair," hydrolyzed poultry feathers," Spray
dried animal blood," "dehydrated garbage," "dried ruminant waste,"
"dried swine waste," and the list goes on. Dr. David Dzanis, formerly
with the CVM, advised that these ingredient definitions applied both
to livestock feed and pet food. The CVM regulates labeling text and
drugs used in pet foods, nothing more.

If you are purchasing a product containing meat meal ask the company
if they actual test the raw materials to ascertain the sources of
protein. Companies claim that their foods contain no euthanized
companion animals. They ask that the rendering plants sign a document
that states there are no dogs and cats in the raw material. Unless
the pet food companies actually test the raw material the document is
not worth the paper it is written on.

Ann


You should be aware that the term "Human Grade" means absoutely
NOTHING under law. In fact it has been so misused by various companies
that the term is being considered for legislation to stop the misuse
of the term and the deception of consumers.

Companies used the term "organic" then the law stepped in and made
them actually be organic - now there are no companies using the term
organic- wonder why?

Then came "All Natural" and the law stepped in and made them actually
be "All Natural" what happened to all those hundreds of companies
claiming to be "All Natural" they moved on to...

"Holistic" and "Human Grade" - another meaningless term with
absolutely no teeth whatsoever. I could market used crankcase oil and
sewage and call it holistic and human grade it would mean nothing.
When "human grade" gets smacked by the law, these same companies will
move on to other terms that have no meaning at all but fool consumers
everyday. There ought to be a pool for the next meaningless term to be
created by a fanciful marketing department.

(Ann Martin) wrote in message . com...
I'd have to disagree with Steve. Some companies *do* use human grade
ingredients. Ingredients that are inspected and past as "fit for
human consumption." One company that I know of actually produces
their product in USDA kitchens and as you are aware these facilities
only produce foods that are fit for human consumption.


Mrs. Martin,
Under US law the terms "human grade" "holistic", "naturally raised"
mean absolutely NOTHING. I could take used crankcase oil, mix it with
human sewage and bottle it, claiming it was "human grade". There is
nothing in the law that defines what that term means - accordingly the
term means nothing under the law. Absent a legal definition, the term
means nothing. Under USDA and FDA law no meat meal of any kind that
leaves the human production stream continues to be "human grade". If
you take a steak out of the grocery store and then return it, it is no
longer legally fit for human consumption. That's the level of
restriction that is placed on the human food chain in the US. Once
that meat meal leaves the human food production stream it is no longer
"human edible". Once meat leaves the human food supplpy chain and
crosses the dock into a pet food production plant it is no longer
"human grade".



May I ask Steve what "law" stepped in and made them change the
wording?

In point of fact the law has been slow to catch up to busy marketing
geniuses misleading consumers. For years we had pet food companies who
claimed they were "organic". Then the law stepped in and defined
organic, and guess what suddenly all those pet food companies dropped
claims of being "organic". The next marketing wizard term was
"natural", then the law stepped in again and defined the term
"natural" and guess what, 99% of the companies that used to claim to
be "natural" had to drop that claim from the bag. The marketing
geniuses simply move on to the next term to fool consumers with. Right
now that term is "human grade". The FDA, USDA and AAFCO are
considering regulations to define this term. What do you expect will
happen when it is becomes legally defined? Just watch as that claim
disappears into the sunset as well. Only to be replaced with the next
undefined term to fool consumers with. It's marketing game of staying
one step ahead of the regulators. What term can they use legally and
convey the same message? If all those companies truly were "organic"
or "natural" why aren't they continuing to use the same claims?
Because they never were in the first place. Does anyone think for a
second these same companies suddenly stopped making foods that were
"organic" and "natural"? Not a chance.

You have a choice here. You can graduate from the 3rd grade elementary
level of assesing food by looking at ingredients to the college level
of looking at the nutrients they provide, or continue to be a victim
of slick marketing geniuses with the next new undefined descriptive
word.

(Ann Martin) wrote in message . com...
I'd have to disagree with Steve. Some companies *do* use human grade
ingredients. Ingredients that are inspected and past as "fit for
human consumption." One company that I know of actually produces
their product in USDA kitchens and as you are aware these facilities
only produce foods that are fit for human consumption.


Mrs. Martin,
Under US law the terms "human grade" "holistic", "naturally raised"
mean absolutely NOTHING. I could take used crankcase oil, mix it with
human sewage and bottle it, claiming it was "human grade". There is
nothing in the law that defines what that term means - accordingly the
term means nothing under the law. Absent a legal definition, the term
means nothing. Under USDA and FDA law no meat meal of any kind that
leaves the human production stream continues to be "human grade". If
you take a steak out of the grocery store and then return it, it is no
longer legally fit for human consumption. That's the level of
restriction that is placed on the human food chain in the US. Once
that meat meal leaves the human food production stream it is no longer
"human edible". Once meat leaves the human food supplpy chain and
crosses the dock into a pet food production plant it is no longer
"human grade".



May I ask Steve what "law" stepped in and made them change the
wording?

In point of fact the law has been slow to catch up to busy marketing
geniuses misleading consumers. For years we had pet food companies who
claimed they were "organic". Then the law stepped in and defined
organic, and guess what suddenly all those pet food companies dropped
claims of being "organic". The next marketing wizard term was
"natural", then the law stepped in again and defined the term
"natural" and guess what, 99% of the companies that used to claim to
be "natural" had to drop that claim from the bag. The marketing
geniuses simply move on to the next term to fool consumers with. Right
now that term is "human grade". The FDA, USDA and AAFCO are
considering regulations to define this term. What do you expect will
happen when it is becomes legally defined? Just watch as that claim
disappears into the sunset as well. Only to be replaced with the next
undefined term to fool consumers with. It's marketing game of staying
one step ahead of the regulators. What term can they use legally and
convey the same message? If all those companies truly were "organic"
or "natural" why aren't they continuing to use the same claims?
Because they never were in the first place. Does anyone think for a
second these same companies suddenly stopped making foods that were
"organic" and "natural"? Not a chance.

You have a choice here. You can graduate from the 3rd grade elementary
level of assesing food by looking at ingredients to the college level
of looking at the nutrients they provide, or continue to be a victim
of slick marketing geniuses with the next new undefined descriptive
word.

I'd have to disagree with Steve. Some companies *do* use human grade
ingredients. Ingredients that are inspected and past as "fit for
human consumption." One company that I know of actually produces
their product in USDA kitchens and as you are aware these facilities
only produce foods that are fit for human consumption.

May I ask Steve what "law" stepped in and made them change the
wording? The only regulations that I am aware of within the pet food
industry are those that govern the labeling text. As far as the
ingredients used, anything is fair game. The AAFCO sets guidelines
and it is up to each state to adopt these guidelines. In reading the
"ingredient definitions" which the AAFCO lists, I'd be a little
concerned. "hydrolyzed hair," hydrolyzed poultry feathers," Spray
dried animal blood," "dehydrated garbage," "dried ruminant waste,"
"dried swine waste," and the list goes on. Dr. David Dzanis, formerly
with the CVM, advised that these ingredient definitions applied both
to livestock feed and pet food. The CVM regulates labeling text and
drugs used in pet foods, nothing more.

If you are purchasing a product containing meat meal ask the company
if they actual test the raw materials to ascertain the sources of
protein. Companies claim that their foods contain no euthanized
companion animals. They ask that the rendering plants sign a document
that states there are no dogs and cats in the raw material. Unless
the pet food companies actually test the raw material the document is
not worth the paper it is written on.

Ann


You should be aware that the term "Human Grade" means absoutely
NOTHING under law. In fact it has been so misused by various companies
that the term is being considered for legislation to stop the misuse
of the term and the deception of consumers.

Companies used the term "organic" then the law stepped in and made
them actually be organic - now there are no companies using the term
organic- wonder why?

Then came "All Natural" and the law stepped in and made them actually
be "All Natural" what happened to all those hundreds of companies
claiming to be "All Natural" they moved on to...

"Holistic" and "Human Grade" - another meaningless term with
absolutely no teeth whatsoever. I could market used crankcase oil and
sewage and call it holistic and human grade it would mean nothing.
When "human grade" gets smacked by the law, these same companies will
move on to other terms that have no meaning at all but fool consumers
everyday. There ought to be a pool for the next meaningless term to be
created by a fanciful marketing department.

"Kim" wrote in message ble.rogers.com...
I've been buying Wellness brand canned food for Brio. It's the only brand
I've ever seen that says it contains human grade meats.



You should be aware that the term "Human Grade" means absoutely
NOTHING under law. In fact it has been so misused by various companies
that the term is being considered for legislation to stop the misuse
of the term and the deception of consumers.

Companies used the term "organic" then the law stepped in and made
them actually be organic - now there are no companies using the term
organic- wonder why?

Then came "All Natural" and the law stepped in and made them actually
be "All Natural" what happened to all those hundreds of companies
claiming to be "All Natural" they moved on to...

"Holistic" and "Human Grade" - another meaningless term with
absolutely no teeth whatsoever. I could market used crankcase oil and
sewage and call it holistic and human grade it would mean nothing.
When "human grade" gets smacked by the law, these same companies will
move on to other terms that have no meaning at all but fool consumers
everyday. There ought to be a pool for the next meaningless term to be
created by a fanciful marketing department.