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Old August 31st 03, 08:41 PM
Ann Martin
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"Ann Martin" wrote in message


My question is, what are you all so frightened of that you have taken
such a defensive stand? You all seemed concerned that I am making all
kinds of money from my books and television radio shows. You insinuate
that all information in my books are nothing more then scare tactics.

Let's look at the pet food industry, an industry that makes billions
per year.
What is this industry doing? Lying to the pet owner's, brain washing
them into believing that feeding commercial pet foods, garbage, is the
only way they can have a healthy pet. In the meantime these people,
the pet owner's, are incurring thousands of dollars in vet bills from
feeding this garbage. Ads depict steaks, whole grains, quality
vegetables and fats going into these products when in reality what is
going into these pet foods is garbage that would otherwise end up in
landfill or be incinerated.

All these people have stated that this industry is regulated. Where
is the proof? Show me one document that gives any indication that
ingredients in pet foods are regulated. One idiot stated that the
USDA/FSIS regulated the ingredients used in pet foods. WRONG! they
have no input at all. The FDA/CVM oversees any drugs that are used in
pet foods and the labeling text. NOTHING ELSE. The AAFCO sets
guidelines and it is up to each state to adopt these guidlines. Very
few states actually do and if they do this group, comprised of many
from the pet food industry, has no input at all into the ingredients
used. If you follow the AAFCO guidlelines, as I have pointed out in a
previous post, the foods can contain such things as "hydrolyzed hair,"
dehydrated garbage," "dehydrated food waste," "dried ruminant waste,"
"dried swine waste," "undried processed animal waste products,". NOW
WOULD YOU PLEASE PROVIDE SOME DOCUMENTATION AS TO WHO REGULATES THE
INGREDIENTS THAT ARE IN COMMERCIAL FOOD. THE PET FOOD COMPANIES,
THAT'S WHO REGULATES THIS INDUSTRY.

You ramble on about the nutrient value of the ingredients in pet foods
but you neglect to mention what these ingredients actually are. You
can derive nutrients from nearly anything including garbage. To that
garbage add a substantial amount of vitamins, minerals and you want us
to believe that you will be feeding your pet a "complete and balanced
diet."

You have persisted in asking for documentation as to the information I
have posted. I've provided that including the e-mail from the
USDA/FSIS stating they have no input at all into the ingredients in
pet food. I've quote from letter received from the FDA/CVM as to
their knowledge that pets ARE used in commercial pet foods and from
David Dzanis, DVM, formerly with the FDA/CVM who stated that the AAFCO
ingredient definitions applied to both livestock feed and PET FOOD.

Crane wrote that he had spoken to Halo, the company that makes 'Spots
Stew.
"I spent nearly an hour on the phone with
this lady and found out she had never had the food analyzed and could
not even begin to give me an answer about the calcium and phosphorus
levels in the food. She kept insisting that since it was all "human
grade" the levels of these minerals didn't matter."


Well he must have spoken to the cleaning lady because Andi Brown, the
owner of the company was out of town last week. If this is the
conversation he had with the cleaning woman then she lied because Andi
Brown replied that they continually have their food analyzed and are
always in compliance.

I suggest that you get your story straight the next time you post such
inaccurate information.

These three also continue to insist that the pentobarbital in pet food
poses no danger. I've questioned them a number of times that if this
was the case why was the investigation begun in the first place? It
was because dogs were building up a resistance to this drug and it was
taking more to euthanize the. If this drug ws having no effect then
there should have been no change in the amounts it took to euthanize.
Also, the FDA/CVM did not consider the interaction of this drug with
other drugs. They did not consider the interaction with other
chemicals found in pet food. They measured ONE liver enzyme then
sought to find the minimal daily dose that did not elevate this
enzyme. The conclusion arrived at was this drug was "probably" safe.
Probably does not mean it is safe. As I have also mentioned, the
FDA/CVM has admitted that if this drug, in any amount, was found in
human food it would be pulled from the shelves immediately. Not so
with pet foods.

When anyone questions any of you and you are backed into a corner your
resort to derogatory remarks and name calling, you never answer the
questions that are addressed to you.

As I've said before, I don't have the time to spend with people like
you and won't bother wasting anymore time with your posts. Others on
the list know that I am more then happy to provide any documented
information they require.

Ann
 




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