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  #31  
Old March 19th 04, 03:36 PM
kilikini
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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:01:10 -0600, "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"
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(snip)

Obviously it depends on the individual
cat - like you say some like solidarity, but on the whole I think it's
better to have at least 2 for feline companionship.


Unless they're like my cats who hate each other. I thought, yeah, take on
two, they'll be pals. Was I WRONG.

Going off on a tangent slightly, but yes, cats can look after
themselves to a degree, single dogs though, I believe, really should
not be shut in a room all day while the family go out to work. Yes,
millions of people do it, but that doesn't make it right. Then they
wonder why the dog howls and destroys the furnishings... jeez, it's
not rocket science.


Dogs definitely need way more attention than cats do. Being a dog and a cat
owner, my dog is way more demanding of my time.

(snip)

That being said, the *only* reason I would never leave my cat alone for

two
days would be because she might become sick or injured during that time.
With some illnesses or injuries, it is crucial to get a cat to the vet

asap.
If she were home alone, who would bring her to the vet?


Exactly.


I've gone inter-island for a weekend and left my cats with two huge bowls of
food and water. Had to leave the doggy at my friend's house tho. I came
home, the cats were fine, just a little ****ed that I left. In the 8 years
I've had them, I've only done this *1* time. Things were fine. My
doggy-sitter did have a key to the house and went to check on the cats at
least once during my absence so I wasn't that worried.

kili


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Old March 19th 04, 03:45 PM
Kristine Kochanski
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:36:04 GMT, "kilikini"
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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message
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Obviously it depends on the individual
cat - like you say some like solidarity, but on the whole I think it's
better to have at least 2 for feline companionship.


Unless they're like my cats who hate each other. I thought, yeah, take on
two, they'll be pals. Was I WRONG.


Heheh, been down that road... Best to take on 2 littermates, though
even that can be a disaster, especially if they're both males ;-)

That being said, the *only* reason I would never leave my cat alone for

two
days would be because she might become sick or injured during that time.
With some illnesses or injuries, it is crucial to get a cat to the vet

asap.
If she were home alone, who would bring her to the vet?


Exactly.


I've gone inter-island for a weekend and left my cats with two huge bowls of
food and water. Had to leave the doggy at my friend's house tho. I came
home, the cats were fine, just a little ****ed that I left.


Yeah, they do get ****ed at you. Once, when I had one cat (she was
very antisocial and refused companions), I thought it would be ok to
put her in a cattery for the weekend when I had to go away. Shelter
looked lovely to me... But when I came back she was SO annoyed at me
and made me feel guilty all week! I still feel guilty about it now and
it was 10 years ago! I always get someone I trust to catsit for me
now, the guilt was too much!

My aunt always had someone come to feed the cat and let it out when
she went off for her fortnight's holiday - so the person would come
twice a day and let the cat in or out and feed it... so the cat was
either in or out for 12 hours of the day with no access to the other
enviroment. I found that absolutely appaling - but 'cats can look
after themselves'... Like I say, some things other pet owners do very
much upset me, but then, some things people do in general just annoy
me ;-)
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Old March 19th 04, 04:44 PM
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"JoJo" wrote in message ...
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Because she has no ownership rights to the cats, they belong to the shelter
she fosters for. Up to shelter if they want to microchip.


That's an argument against chipping, but not against sticking a collar on 'em.

If it's not a
no-kill and they euthanize, it would be a waste of money for them to
microchip an animal that doesn't get adopted (sad but true).


True enough. Chipping in cheap, but I guess it all adds up.

Steve.
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Old March 19th 04, 06:55 PM
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It's not unusual but it's very wrong IMO. If you can't look after 'em,
don't have 'em.


Well, there you go. We're appalled by different things. I'm appalled
by people who don't bother to tag and collar their indoor pets in the
assumption that they will never, by any combination of circumstances,
slip out of the house. And I really hope the OP takes this opportunity
to remedy the problem. It strikes me as a bit more fruitful than
ranting at a landlord on Usenet. You owe it to your cats to give them
every possibility of being returned to you should you be separated.
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Old March 19th 04, 07:12 PM
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"Diane L. Schirf" wrote

I have a great apartment and a wonderful building manager. No

complaints.


Hey, I loved one of my apartments much more than my current house!
But when it came time to buy I could never afford a place as old and
cool as it was. I'm not knocking renting--there are advantages, such
as the fact that you have someone else to be responsible for repairs
and to PAY for them. What I meant was that I feel much more
secure now that nobody has the right to come into my house
and do as they please when I am not at home. And, I like the
fact that in paying a mortgage, my money doesn't just
"disappear."


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Old March 19th 04, 07:16 PM
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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:49:25 GMT, "nimue"
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The big deal is cats need company and stimulation. How would you

like
to be trapped in a house all weekend with nobody to play with?!

Would
you leave a child alone all weekend so long as it was healthy and
enough food and water? I don't think so.


What about if the cat has kitty companions and someone looking
in on them twice a day?


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Old March 19th 04, 07:17 PM
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message
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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:49:25 GMT, "nimue"
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Kristine Kochanski wrote:
Single people do leave cats alone for two nights. It's not

that
unusual.

It's not unusual but it's very wrong IMO. If you can't look

after 'em,
don't have 'em.

Really? You think it's wrong to leave a cat alone for a weekend?


Absolutely.

If you
leave them plenty of food and water I don't see what the problem

is.
Maybe
I will get flamed here, but I really don't. I have done this

many times,
as
have my friends. One of my friends works at an animal hospital,

but she
has
left her cats alone for the weekend, too. Why not? I mean, if

the cat
is
healthy and not pregnant and doing fine, what's the big deal?


The big deal is cats need company and stimulation. How would you

like
to be trapped in a house all weekend with nobody to play with?!

Would
you leave a child alone all weekend so long as it was healthy and
enough food and water? I don't think so.


Using that analogy (cat and child)...would you have a young child

spayed or
neutered? Would you have a young child tattoed and microchipped

should s/he
become lost? Should I not even be leaving my cat home unattended

while I go
to work for the day? I certainly wouldn't leave a child alone in

that
situation so according to your analogy, I shouldn't leave my cat

during the
day, either. I would send a child to school--should I send my cat

to
school, too?

The child/cat analogy is one of the silliest ones to use when trying

to make
a point. Fact is, cats and humans are very different. Cats are far

more
self-sufficient than young children and far more independent. And

not all
cats need company and stimulation. Some prefer very much to be left

alone
as much as possible.

That being said, the *only* reason I would never leave my cat alone

for two
days would be because she might become sick or injured during that

time.
With some illnesses or injuries, it is crucial to get a cat to the

vet asap.
If she were home alone, who would bring her to the vet?

rona (happy Kitty has a vacation home)


Nicely argued. You could be a great lawyer.


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Old March 19th 04, 07:18 PM
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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:01:10 -0600, "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"
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Using that analogy (cat and child)...would you have a young child

spayed or
neutered?


If it was going to go out and shag at random with nobody to look

after
its offspring, yes.


Nazi.

:-)


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Old March 19th 04, 07:19 PM
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Quoth Kristine Kochanski:
Of course it's just my opinion, I don't go around removing cats from
homes that are treated in a way I find abhorrent! I find lots of
things other cat owners do quite unbearable but I have my own beliefs
and I have to live by them - and if I had to leave my cats regularly I
wouldn't have them, it's as simple as that. That's my opinion as a cat
owner and I'm entitled to express it.


OK, fair enough - and yes, you are; I just wanted to head off any
Bobbing at the pass.

In fact, I might be faced with that situation myself soon - I'm between
jobs, and I may well be in a situation where I'm away from the house 5
days a week. Obviously, should that happen, I need to find my cats
some nice new slaves... *sniffle* so I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.
--
Gwenhwyfaer (emails need [Private] in the subject)

some girls wander by themselves
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Old March 19th 04, 07:22 PM
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"Tracy" wrote in message
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Well, there you go. We're appalled by different things. I'm appalled
by people who don't bother to tag and collar their indoor pets in

the
assumption that they will never, by any combination of

circumstances,
slip out of the house.


This really is a good point. Much as I love my cats I had not thought
of this. It's as though my mind stops at the worst possible outcome,
that
they might get hit on the busy street first thing. Both have collars,
but I
will have some tags made with their names and my contact info this
weekend and attach them.


 




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