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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:01:10 -0600, "Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote: (snip) Obviously it depends on the individual cat - like you say some like solidarity, but on the whole I think it's better to have at least 2 for feline companionship. Unless they're like my cats who hate each other. I thought, yeah, take on two, they'll be pals. Was I WRONG. Going off on a tangent slightly, but yes, cats can look after themselves to a degree, single dogs though, I believe, really should not be shut in a room all day while the family go out to work. Yes, millions of people do it, but that doesn't make it right. Then they wonder why the dog howls and destroys the furnishings... jeez, it's not rocket science. Dogs definitely need way more attention than cats do. Being a dog and a cat owner, my dog is way more demanding of my time. (snip) That being said, the *only* reason I would never leave my cat alone for two days would be because she might become sick or injured during that time. With some illnesses or injuries, it is crucial to get a cat to the vet asap. If she were home alone, who would bring her to the vet? Exactly. I've gone inter-island for a weekend and left my cats with two huge bowls of food and water. Had to leave the doggy at my friend's house tho. I came home, the cats were fine, just a little ****ed that I left. In the 8 years I've had them, I've only done this *1* time. Things were fine. My doggy-sitter did have a key to the house and went to check on the cats at least once during my absence so I wasn't that worried. kili |
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:36:04 GMT, "kilikini"
wrote: "Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message .. . Obviously it depends on the individual cat - like you say some like solidarity, but on the whole I think it's better to have at least 2 for feline companionship. Unless they're like my cats who hate each other. I thought, yeah, take on two, they'll be pals. Was I WRONG. Heheh, been down that road... Best to take on 2 littermates, though even that can be a disaster, especially if they're both males ;-) That being said, the *only* reason I would never leave my cat alone for two days would be because she might become sick or injured during that time. With some illnesses or injuries, it is crucial to get a cat to the vet asap. If she were home alone, who would bring her to the vet? Exactly. I've gone inter-island for a weekend and left my cats with two huge bowls of food and water. Had to leave the doggy at my friend's house tho. I came home, the cats were fine, just a little ****ed that I left. Yeah, they do get ****ed at you. Once, when I had one cat (she was very antisocial and refused companions), I thought it would be ok to put her in a cattery for the weekend when I had to go away. Shelter looked lovely to me... But when I came back she was SO annoyed at me and made me feel guilty all week! I still feel guilty about it now and it was 10 years ago! I always get someone I trust to catsit for me now, the guilt was too much! My aunt always had someone come to feed the cat and let it out when she went off for her fortnight's holiday - so the person would come twice a day and let the cat in or out and feed it... so the cat was either in or out for 12 hours of the day with no access to the other enviroment. I found that absolutely appaling - but 'cats can look after themselves'... Like I say, some things other pet owners do very much upset me, but then, some things people do in general just annoy me ;-) |
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"JoJo" wrote in message ...
(...) Because she has no ownership rights to the cats, they belong to the shelter she fosters for. Up to shelter if they want to microchip. That's an argument against chipping, but not against sticking a collar on 'em. If it's not a no-kill and they euthanize, it would be a waste of money for them to microchip an animal that doesn't get adopted (sad but true). True enough. Chipping in cheap, but I guess it all adds up. Steve. |
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It's not unusual but it's very wrong IMO. If you can't look after 'em, don't have 'em. Well, there you go. We're appalled by different things. I'm appalled by people who don't bother to tag and collar their indoor pets in the assumption that they will never, by any combination of circumstances, slip out of the house. And I really hope the OP takes this opportunity to remedy the problem. It strikes me as a bit more fruitful than ranting at a landlord on Usenet. You owe it to your cats to give them every possibility of being returned to you should you be separated. |
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"Diane L. Schirf" wrote I have a great apartment and a wonderful building manager. No complaints. Hey, I loved one of my apartments much more than my current house! But when it came time to buy I could never afford a place as old and cool as it was. I'm not knocking renting--there are advantages, such as the fact that you have someone else to be responsible for repairs and to PAY for them. What I meant was that I feel much more secure now that nobody has the right to come into my house and do as they please when I am not at home. And, I like the fact that in paying a mortgage, my money doesn't just "disappear." |
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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:49:25 GMT, "nimue" wrote: The big deal is cats need company and stimulation. How would you like to be trapped in a house all weekend with nobody to play with?! Would you leave a child alone all weekend so long as it was healthy and enough food and water? I don't think so. What about if the cat has kitty companions and someone looking in on them twice a day? |
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message ... "Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:49:25 GMT, "nimue" wrote: Kristine Kochanski wrote: Single people do leave cats alone for two nights. It's not that unusual. It's not unusual but it's very wrong IMO. If you can't look after 'em, don't have 'em. Really? You think it's wrong to leave a cat alone for a weekend? Absolutely. If you leave them plenty of food and water I don't see what the problem is. Maybe I will get flamed here, but I really don't. I have done this many times, as have my friends. One of my friends works at an animal hospital, but she has left her cats alone for the weekend, too. Why not? I mean, if the cat is healthy and not pregnant and doing fine, what's the big deal? The big deal is cats need company and stimulation. How would you like to be trapped in a house all weekend with nobody to play with?! Would you leave a child alone all weekend so long as it was healthy and enough food and water? I don't think so. Using that analogy (cat and child)...would you have a young child spayed or neutered? Would you have a young child tattoed and microchipped should s/he become lost? Should I not even be leaving my cat home unattended while I go to work for the day? I certainly wouldn't leave a child alone in that situation so according to your analogy, I shouldn't leave my cat during the day, either. I would send a child to school--should I send my cat to school, too? The child/cat analogy is one of the silliest ones to use when trying to make a point. Fact is, cats and humans are very different. Cats are far more self-sufficient than young children and far more independent. And not all cats need company and stimulation. Some prefer very much to be left alone as much as possible. That being said, the *only* reason I would never leave my cat alone for two days would be because she might become sick or injured during that time. With some illnesses or injuries, it is crucial to get a cat to the vet asap. If she were home alone, who would bring her to the vet? rona (happy Kitty has a vacation home) Nicely argued. You could be a great lawyer. |
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"Kristine Kochanski" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:01:10 -0600, "Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote: Using that analogy (cat and child)...would you have a young child spayed or neutered? If it was going to go out and shag at random with nobody to look after its offspring, yes. Nazi. :-) |
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Quoth Kristine Kochanski:
Of course it's just my opinion, I don't go around removing cats from homes that are treated in a way I find abhorrent! I find lots of things other cat owners do quite unbearable but I have my own beliefs and I have to live by them - and if I had to leave my cats regularly I wouldn't have them, it's as simple as that. That's my opinion as a cat owner and I'm entitled to express it. OK, fair enough - and yes, you are; I just wanted to head off any Bobbing at the pass. In fact, I might be faced with that situation myself soon - I'm between jobs, and I may well be in a situation where I'm away from the house 5 days a week. Obviously, should that happen, I need to find my cats some nice new slaves... *sniffle* so I'm hoping it doesn't come to that. -- Gwenhwyfaer (emails need [Private] in the subject) some girls wander by themselves |
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"Tracy" wrote in message om... Well, there you go. We're appalled by different things. I'm appalled by people who don't bother to tag and collar their indoor pets in the assumption that they will never, by any combination of circumstances, slip out of the house. This really is a good point. Much as I love my cats I had not thought of this. It's as though my mind stops at the worst possible outcome, that they might get hit on the busy street first thing. Both have collars, but I will have some tags made with their names and my contact info this weekend and attach them. |
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