Need Advice Very Badly...Time is running out! Please help!

On Apr 1, 7:28*pm, "starcat" wrote:
" "CatMan963" wrote







I honestly do believe this vet took advantage of me. He should have
suggested x-rays to see
if it was something that spread. Instead, he did bloodwork when it
could just be useless if it is cancer. The bloodwork does'nt show any
definitive results for cancer.

Why would the vet do that? Knowing you don't have enough money to give
your
cat proper vet care? Blood work and Xrays are not that different in
price,
at least in my neck of the woods. If you really believe this, and are
not
simply finding a target for your pain in the vet, then TELL the vet
and tell
him you want an Xray to be sure and you either want him to pay for it
or you
will pay it on time. It could be that the Xray would have cost more..
They
are slightly less expensive here than bloodwork but not by much. Get
the
Xray. Borrow the money. Sell something on ebay, I have done that more
than
once when I needed money. I feel your pain, but whining about the vet
here
isn't helping anyone. Find a way to get the Xray if that is what will
put
your mind at ease. One thing I don't get--if it is treatable, you say
have
no money to treat it, so what is your dilemma?? What you know you
cannot do
is allow your cat to die of "natural causes." And if you can find the
money
to have her put down, you can find the money for an Xray. Borrow from
family. Take a part time job. Whatever it takes. I bet your computer
would
cover it, if you sold it.

the xray would have been $115 and the bloodwork and a few temporary
treatments came to over $350. the vet is new and starting his own
practice. his business is not that great at the moment. i truly
believe he took advantage of me. i'm not just looking to him to be a
target for my pain. next time, i'll find a new vet. thanks

Those prices sound reasonable.

I still don't see how a vet took advanatage of you when he recommended
the BEST possible test. What would have have learned without the
bloodwork? What could you have treated without the bloodwork.

There is only one solution without doing bloodwork. Euthanasia.

Every possible treatment requires bloodwork.

If an initial xray would show this lump went into the lungs or other
vital organs, i'd know right then not to go further with bloodwork.
this is why i was thinking i would have been better off if the vet
suggested the xray first since money is an issue. i realize that if
the xray did'nt show anything in any vital organs, then i'd have to
get bloodwork in which i would'nt have had a problem doing. my
thinking seems very reasonable and i don't see why so many here are
jumping on me saying otherwise.

Well an x-ray may very well have told you all you need to know if the mass
has spread, but if it hasn't, you would still need the blood work,
particularly since your kitty is feeling poorly. *Blood work would also tell
you vet about other coexisting problems, such as kidney disease or liver
disease. *Any time I've had an elderly cat need a diagnosis such as this,
it's always been blood work first and x-rays second. *Basically, without all
the diagnostic testing, the best your vet can give you is an educated
opinion - his best guess.

I do understand completely, though, that it sucks to have to think about the
money when a kitty you've had for nearly two decades is sick. *I myself have
been down that road several times, and I know what it's like to hope for one
more good month, week, or even day. *Your kitty has had a very good lifespan
though, and at this point it's all about quality. *And even if a tumor is
benign, they can get really large and break stuff, like blood vessels.

If this were my cat, I'd want to do whatever testing felt reasonable, not
hesitate to ask my vet for a payment plan, and have a very frank discussion
with the vet about whether or not any treatment was indicated.

thank you and god bless!

On Apr 1, 9:33*am, CatMan963 wrote:
On Apr 1, 2:28*am, "



wrote:
On Mar 31, 7:42*pm, CatMan963 wrote:

On Mar 31, 7:04*pm, "cybercat" wrote:

"CatMan963" wrote

I honestly do believe this vet took advantage of me. *He should have
suggested x-rays to see
if it was something that spread. *Instead, he did bloodwork when it
could just be useless if it is cancer. *The bloodwork does'nt show any
definitive results for cancer.

Why would the vet do that? Knowing you don't have enough money to give your
cat proper vet care? Blood work and Xrays are not that different in price,
at least in my neck of the woods. If you really believe this, and are not
simply finding a target for your pain in the vet, then TELL the vet and tell
him you want an Xray to be sure and you either want him to pay for it or you
will pay it on time. It could be that the Xray would have cost more.. They
are slightly less expensive here than bloodwork but not by much. Get the
Xray. Borrow the money. Sell something on ebay, I have done that more than
once when I needed money. I feel your pain, but whining about the vet here
isn't helping anyone. Find a way to get the Xray if that is what will put
your mind at ease. One thing I don't get--if it is treatable, you say have
no money to treat it, so what is your dilemma?? What you know you cannot do
is allow your cat to die of "natural causes." And if you can find the money
to have her put down, you can find the money for an Xray. Borrow from
family. Take a part time job. Whatever it takes. I bet your computer would
cover it, if you sold it.

the xray would have been $115 and the bloodwork and a few temporary
treatments came to over $350. *the vet is new and starting his own
practice. *his business is not that great at the moment. i truly
believe he took advantage of me. i'm not just looking to him to be a
target for my pain. *next time, i'll find a new vet. *thanks

Those prices sound reasonable.

I still don't see how a vet took advanatage of you when he recommended
the BEST possible test. What would have have learned without the
bloodwork? What could you have treated without the bloodwork.

There is only one solution without doing bloodwork. Euthanasia.

Every possible treatment requires bloodwork.

If an initial xray would show this lump went into the lungs or other
vital organs, i'd know right then not to go further with bloodwork.
this is why i was thinking i would have been better off if the vet
suggested the xray first since money is an issue. i realize that if
the xray did'nt show anything in any vital organs, then i'd have to
get bloodwork in which i would'nt have had a problem doing. my
thinking seems very reasonable and i don't see why so many here are
jumping on me saying otherwise.

And the fact remains. Bloodwork first is the BEST advice.

You did not simply ask for advice, but kept going on and on about why
you think your vet cheated you and why you think you are right. That's
not our fault. We simply disagree with your belief, and we have tried
to explain it.

Had you gotten the x-ray instead, you would still not know what to do,
and you would probably be complaining that now the vet wants to do
bloodwork and should have suggested doing it first.

Keep in mind that an x-ray does not show everything, so even if
something is there, the x-ray may not show it. And the x-ray cannot
tell you what it is anyway.

Honestly, I would not trust a vet who would recommend an x-ray instead
of bloodwork in this situation. Elderly cat not eating? Bloodwork
first. No question about it.

"CatMan963" wrote in message
...


should i now just assume the lump is cancerous and has
spread?

Absolutely not!


in that case, i realize i need to put her to sleep


Do you really want to euthanize your cat based on an assumption? I sure as
hell wouldn't! If you do, you'll be second guessing your decision for the
rest of your life.

"Phil P." wrote in message
...

"CatMan963" wrote in message
...


should i now just assume the lump is cancerous and has
spread?

Absolutely not!


in that case, i realize i need to put her to sleep


Do you really want to euthanize your cat based on an assumption? I sure
as
hell wouldn't! If you do, you'll be second guessing your decision for the
rest of your life.

This person has already decided he does not have the money to even have an
Xray, Phil.

On Apr 2, 12:22*am, "
wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:33*am, CatMan963 wrote:





On Apr 1, 2:28*am, "

wrote:
On Mar 31, 7:42*pm, CatMan963 wrote:

On Mar 31, 7:04*pm, "cybercat" wrote:

"CatMan963" wrote

I honestly do believe this vet took advantage of me. *He should have
suggested x-rays to see
if it was something that spread. *Instead, he did bloodwork when it
could just be useless if it is cancer. *The bloodwork does'nt show any
definitive results for cancer.

Why would the vet do that? Knowing you don't have enough money to give your
cat proper vet care? Blood work and Xrays are not that different in price,
at least in my neck of the woods. If you really believe this, and are not
simply finding a target for your pain in the vet, then TELL the vet and tell
him you want an Xray to be sure and you either want him to pay for it or you
will pay it on time. It could be that the Xray would have cost more. They
are slightly less expensive here than bloodwork but not by much. Get the
Xray. Borrow the money. Sell something on ebay, I have done that more than
once when I needed money. I feel your pain, but whining about the vet here
isn't helping anyone. Find a way to get the Xray if that is what will put
your mind at ease. One thing I don't get--if it is treatable, you say have
no money to treat it, so what is your dilemma?? What you know you cannot do
is allow your cat to die of "natural causes." And if you can find the money
to have her put down, you can find the money for an Xray. Borrow from
family. Take a part time job. Whatever it takes. I bet your computer would
cover it, if you sold it.

the xray would have been $115 and the bloodwork and a few temporary
treatments came to over $350. *the vet is new and starting his own
practice. *his business is not that great at the moment. i truly
believe he took advantage of me. i'm not just looking to him to be a
target for my pain. *next time, i'll find a new vet. *thanks

Those prices sound reasonable.

I still don't see how a vet took advanatage of you when he recommended
the BEST possible test. What would have have learned without the
bloodwork? What could you have treated without the bloodwork.

There is only one solution without doing bloodwork. Euthanasia.

Every possible treatment requires bloodwork.

If an initial xray would show this lump went into the lungs or other
vital organs, i'd know right then not to go further with bloodwork.
this is why i was thinking i would have been better off if the vet
suggested the xray first since money is an issue. i realize that if
the xray did'nt show anything in any vital organs, then i'd have to
get bloodwork in which i would'nt have had a problem doing. my
thinking seems very reasonable and i don't see why so many here are
jumping on me saying otherwise.

And the fact remains. Bloodwork first is the BEST advice.

You did not simply ask for advice, but kept going on and on about why
you think your vet cheated you and why you think you are right. That's
not our fault. We simply disagree with your belief, and we have tried
to explain it.

Had you gotten the x-ray instead, you would still not know what to do,
and you would probably be complaining that now the vet wants to do
bloodwork and should have suggested doing it first.

Keep in mind that an x-ray does not show everything, so even if
something is there, the x-ray may not show it. And the x-ray cannot
tell you what it is anyway.

Honestly, I would not trust a vet who would recommend an x-ray instead
of bloodwork in this situation. Elderly cat not eating? Bloodwork
first. No question about it.

WHOEVER YOU ARE....YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE! SORRY TO ALL THE GOOD PPL ON
HERE BUT PPL LIKE THIS MAKES ME GET VERY ANGRY! I'D GUARANTEE IF YOU
SAID THAT STUFF TO MY FACE, YOU'D HAVE A BROKEN NOSE AND JAW!

On Apr 2, 5:07*pm, "cybercat" wrote:
"Phil P." wrote in message

...





"CatMan963" wrote in message
....

should i now just assume the lump is cancerous and has
spread?

Absolutely not!

*in that case, i realize i need to put her to sleep

Do you really want to euthanize your cat based on an assumption? *I sure
as
hell wouldn't! *If you do, you'll be second guessing your decision for the
rest of your life.

This person has already decided he does not have the money to even have an
Xray, Phil.

OH IS THAT RIGHT ASSHOLE?

On Apr 2, 4:24*pm, CatMan963 wrote:
On Apr 2, 12:22*am, "



wrote:
On Apr 1, 9:33*am, CatMan963 wrote:

On Apr 1, 2:28*am, "

wrote:
On Mar 31, 7:42*pm, CatMan963 wrote:

On Mar 31, 7:04*pm, "cybercat" wrote:

"CatMan963" wrote

I honestly do believe this vet took advantage of me. *He should have
suggested x-rays to see
if it was something that spread. *Instead, he did bloodwork when it
could just be useless if it is cancer. *The bloodwork does'nt show any
definitive results for cancer.

Why would the vet do that? Knowing you don't have enough money to give your
cat proper vet care? Blood work and Xrays are not that different in price,
at least in my neck of the woods. If you really believe this, and are not
simply finding a target for your pain in the vet, then TELL the vet and tell
him you want an Xray to be sure and you either want him to pay for it or you
will pay it on time. It could be that the Xray would have cost more. They
are slightly less expensive here than bloodwork but not by much.. Get the
Xray. Borrow the money. Sell something on ebay, I have done that more than
once when I needed money. I feel your pain, but whining about the vet here
isn't helping anyone. Find a way to get the Xray if that is what will put
your mind at ease. One thing I don't get--if it is treatable, you say have
no money to treat it, so what is your dilemma?? What you know you cannot do
is allow your cat to die of "natural causes." And if you can find the money
to have her put down, you can find the money for an Xray. Borrow from
family. Take a part time job. Whatever it takes. I bet your computer would
cover it, if you sold it.

the xray would have been $115 and the bloodwork and a few temporary
treatments came to over $350. *the vet is new and starting his own
practice. *his business is not that great at the moment. i truly
believe he took advantage of me. i'm not just looking to him to be a
target for my pain. *next time, i'll find a new vet. *thanks

Those prices sound reasonable.

I still don't see how a vet took advanatage of you when he recommended
the BEST possible test. What would have have learned without the
bloodwork? What could you have treated without the bloodwork.

There is only one solution without doing bloodwork. Euthanasia.

Every possible treatment requires bloodwork.

If an initial xray would show this lump went into the lungs or other
vital organs, i'd know right then not to go further with bloodwork.
this is why i was thinking i would have been better off if the vet
suggested the xray first since money is an issue. i realize that if
the xray did'nt show anything in any vital organs, then i'd have to
get bloodwork in which i would'nt have had a problem doing. my
thinking seems very reasonable and i don't see why so many here are
jumping on me saying otherwise.

And the fact remains. Bloodwork first is the BEST advice.

You did not simply ask for advice, but kept going on and on about why
you think your vet cheated you and why you think you are right. That's
not our fault. We simply disagree with your belief, and we have tried
to explain it.

Had you gotten the x-ray instead, you would still not know what to do,
and you would probably be complaining that now the vet wants to do
bloodwork and should have suggested doing it first.

Keep in mind that an x-ray does not show everything, so even if
something is there, the x-ray may not show it. And the x-ray cannot
tell you what it is anyway.

Honestly, I would not trust a vet who would recommend an x-ray instead
of bloodwork in this situation. Elderly cat not eating? Bloodwork
first. No question about it.

WHOEVER YOU ARE....YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE! *SORRY TO ALL THE GOOD PPL ON
HERE BUT PPL LIKE THIS MAKES ME GET VERY ANGRY! *I'D GUARANTEE IF YOU
SAID THAT STUFF TO MY FACE, YOU'D HAVE A BROKEN NOSE AND JAW!

Why? Because I told you the truth?

A good vet would recommend bloodwork first. Only a bad vet would say
that an x-ray was good enough.

It's not my fault you would rather be mad at your vet that accept the
truth.

If you wanted to do an x-ray, then you should have done both, and you
should have done it earlier, while you had a chance at treatment.
There are options for payment. Many of us have been there and made
sacrifices to get the vet care for our cats and dogs.

I really don't understand what advice you wanted when you posted here.
You have stated you could not afford both bloodwork and an x-ray. You
have not mentioned any plans to raise money, so treatment is clearly
not an option.

It looks like you just want us to agree with you that your vet was bad
so that you can be justified in your anger.

Go ahead and threaten me if you want. Call me names if you want. It
won't change the truth.

"CatMan963" wrote in message
...
On Apr 2, 5:07 pm, "cybercat" wrote:
"Phil P." wrote in message

...





"CatMan963" wrote in message
...

should i now just assume the lump is cancerous and has
spread?

Absolutely not!

in that case, i realize i need to put her to sleep

Do you really want to euthanize your cat based on an assumption? I sure
as
hell wouldn't! If you do, you'll be second guessing your decision for
the
rest of your life.

This person has already decided he does not have the money to even have an
Xray, Phil.

OH IS THAT RIGHT ASSHOLE?

That is what you said. Is your cat dead yet? Or just suffering while you
suck up all the attention you can on Usenet?