mine heaf repurt.

i iz takin mine pillz like i iz spozedta du, butted diz changin da fudz
arownd iz not a gud thing at all, chester
"cshenk" wrote in message
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Storrmmee wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

da ted hada nerf ta tella soft mine thyroid anna kidneyz wzu, high
normal!!! mine insidez iz juzt fine thankursef bderree muc!!! den
worzt of all, instead of mine bluewilderness fudz, i wuz giffed sum
kidneyz fuz... not nearlee az tastee, anna ted awso haz sayed no more
meat snakz fur mine sef!!!

I iz not purlezed wif diz at all.

Ouch Chester! Mai favorite kibble is mai bluewilderness! Meowmie
hasn't giben mmaiself anny since I came back frum the Ted without 2
hurtted toofs. Iz jus getting gooshy fud anna it tastes a little
funny. I peeked anna Charlotte adds sum medicine stuff to mai gooshy
fud. I dunno how long it will be but itz not tasting too bad.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

--

iza buffaloz wildernezz inna same famblee aza blue wildernezz...ted telled
soft dat her duzint like da fudz wut say "limited" ingreedintz beclawz
hersef cownted... anna da onez regulur hoominz can say iz 12 of dem, her
awso sayz dat one ofur isue iz dat inna kind soft getted uses iz dat duck
iza fudz dey fedz ifin a kitty gets 'lergeez anna ifin one of uses haza
'lergic reachun dat itz owt... her liksa protieenz fur yunger kitteez, so
barbi mh anna storrmmee kan haffa bule wilderness... chester
"Ranger Greykitten" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:37:50 -0500, cshenk wrote:

Ouch Chester! Mai favorite kibble is mai bluewilderness! Meowmie
hasn't giben mmaiself anny since I came back frum the Ted without 2
hurtted toofs. Iz jus getting gooshy fud anna it tastes a little funny.
I peeked anna Charlotte adds sum medicine stuff to mai gooshy fud. I
dunno how long it will be but itz not tasting too bad.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

Yes, dat BuffamoWilderness stuff is good! But dey're fibbing to us. I
readed da list of ingredients, an dere is NO BUFFALO in dere, blue or
otherwise! But it'z still yummy.

I guess if I want to eat buffalo I'll haf to go catch one mineownself.

Ranger

owrz izqa duckee one, chester
"cshenk" wrote in message
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Ranger Greykitten wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:37:50 -0500, cshenk wrote:

Ouch Chester! Mai favorite kibble is mai bluewilderness! Meowmie
hasn't giben mmaiself anny since I came back frum the Ted without 2
hurtted toofs. Iz jus getting gooshy fud anna it tastes a little
funny. I peeked anna Charlotte adds sum medicine stuff to mai
gooshy fud. I dunno how long it will be but itz not tasting too
bad.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

Yes, dat BuffamoWilderness stuff is good! But dey're fibbing to us. I
readed da list of ingredients, an dere is NO BUFFALO in dere, blue or
otherwise! But it'z still yummy.

I guess if I want to eat buffalo I'll haf to go catch one mineownself.

Ohh, I get the ducky and salmon ones. Dez got duckies and salmon in
dere!

Daisy-chan the Magnifiscent!

--

da strang thing iz dat alla dat fur frum shafed belliez iz gowin sumwherez
but i nefur seez itsef when i iz atta TEDZ, chester

"The Two Sisters" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 05:08:17 -0500, Storrmmee wrote:

chester da dizgruntled!!!

Cybèle: Oh my towz! Dis TED fing is berry disconsertink! Me an mine
sisfur was catnapped and taken dere last week, an we boff habs shaved
belliez. An owr hormonez just izn't da same - is dey?

Oriane: No dey izn't. And I iz nottid inneresed in yowling at boycats
any more.

Cybèle: Well dats gud, I finks.....

Oriane: Well, anywayz, yoo rest up and eat lotz!

--
Purrs,

Cybèle & Oriane

"I love cats because I take pleasure in my home; and little by
little, the cats become its visible soul."
Jean Cocteau, 1889-1963

6/22/2011 7:13:09 PM

Storrmmee wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

iza buffaloz wildernezz inna same famblee aza blue wildernezz...ted
telled soft dat her duzint like da fudz wut say "limited" ingreedintz
beclawz hersef cownted... anna da onez regulur hoominz can say iz 12
of dem, her awso sayz dat one ofur isue iz dat inna kind soft getted
uses iz dat duck iza fudz dey fedz ifin a kitty gets 'lergeez anna
ifin one of uses haza 'lergic reachun dat itz owt... her liksa
protieenz fur yunger kitteez, so barbi mh anna storrmmee kan haffa
bule wilderness... chester "Ranger Greykitten"

Meowmie is gonna answr gud fuds fur maiself.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

Hi! Carol here, Not gonna try cat chat (grin).

There is a difference. Potentially a cat that needs a limited protien
intake can't have blue wildrness and not sure if blue buffalo has a
special diet section suitable for a reduced protien diet.

Blue Wilderness- 6 star rated ( see dogfoodanalysis.com and ther isn't
a site for cat food but the info is relatively the same). This is a
truely quality grain free food. My local store carries 3 versions for
cats (duck, salmon, chicken).

Blue Buffalo- less expensive and not grain free, but still a quality
production product with a solid rating of 4 and a few 5's. Rates
higher than wellness now as welness has cheapened the product somewhat
in the last 3 years. If you cat has no grain issues, blue buffalo is a
very decent brand and wellness of course is ok. Warning though,
wellness is going the way of science diet and IAMs, trading on earlier
reputation and no longer all that 'special'.

If you have a cat with allergies, it is almost always wheat, corn, or
soy. Same for dogs BTW and symptoms are very close for both types.

Per my vet: most people who *think* their pet has some sort of meat
allergie, actually have a wheat, corn or soy allergy but do not know
how (or maybe don't bother?) to read labels. The most common one per
my vet is 'my cat is allergic to beef'. No, you cat is allergic to
wheat and you are getting cans with 'gravy' so it looks nice to your
eyes and that gravy is almost always wheat gluten though occasionally
you find corn starch (same problem, corn allergy).

I have the dratted luck to have 3 pets who are all wheat/corn/soy
intolerant. Well, actually I'm not totally sure on soy but the wheat
and corn are definate.

The signs in a cat or dog as said are very similar. Usually the first
sign is ear infections, commonly yeast based and recurrant. Daisy-chan
and Cash can take 2 bites on a non-grain free food to develop this.

Next common thing is itchy patchy fur and excess licking expecially
belly for cats and feet/toes for dogs. Aunti Mabel arrived with spots
gnawed raw and no fur on her belly which was literally seeping clear
fluid. Cases like her's can look very much like mange. She's still
battling ear infection issues because it was allowed to go on so long,
the vets don't know what to do anymore. She has some very expensive
tests on the 28th to see if they can figure it out. She is an extreme
case of grain allergy and may be one of the few with other allergies
but that's what the tests will help determine.

Things to look for in the label: wheat, wheat gluten, gluten, corn,
corn starch, soy, soy protien, wheat solids. There are others but
those are the more common ones.

Treats matter too! You see in our 'chat' that Daisy-chan and the
pooches get jerky treats. They also get lots of 'Chez Shenk's' special
meals like pig blood with chopped pig liver, shrimp (whole or heads,
with shell), home made bone broth every day except when I run low and
they get dashi (grain free fish broth from powder) and lots of other
grain-free things. My vet says even the folks who 'get it' with the
standard canned or kibble, tend to forget this one. 'oh have a nibble
of my samwich' (wheat bread). 'But it was just a nibble!' doesnt work
here.

I fostered another elderly dog (17-18) dog who is since RB. He had no
grain issues at all. He just had to have his daily fix of milk bone
biscuits like all the years before or he'd feel like he 'wasn't a good
boy'. His owner died before him but had fed him 2 every day sharp at
4pm as a snack to tide over until dinner. Grin, we of course *tried*
jerky on him for it but ended up getting his favorite milk bones just
for him after 2 days. That was 'Unca Sammy' which you may see in the
archives.

Meowmie Carol for Daisy-chan

Storrmmee wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

i iz takin mine pillz like i iz spozedta du, butted diz changin da
fudz arownd iz not a gud thing at all, chester "cshenk"
wrote in message
...
Storrmmee wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

da ted hada nerf ta tella soft mine thyroid anna kidneyz wzu, high
normal!!! mine insidez iz juzt fine thankursef bderree muc!!! den
worzt of all, instead of mine bluewilderness fudz, i wuz giffed
sum kidneyz fuz... not nearlee az tastee, anna ted awso haz sayed
no more meat snakz fur mine sef!!!

I iz not purlezed wif diz at all.

Ouch Chester! Mai favorite kibble is mai bluewilderness! Meowmie
hasn't giben mmaiself anny since I came back frum the Ted without 2
hurtted toofs. Iz jus getting gooshy fud anna it tastes a little
funny. I peeked anna Charlotte adds sum medicine stuff to mai
gooshy fud. I dunno how long it will be but itz not tasting too
bad.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

--

Iz not gettin no pills. I spit them out faster den meowmie kin
load'em! Mai mouf barely hurtz now anna i dont remember it feeling
this unhurty fur a long time. It jus slowly creapt up like we would do
onna mousie ya know? Maiself gotted used to it anna I didnt know it
hurtted dat bad til it stopped.

Todai I gotted 2 shrimp heads anna I ate dem of all the gud parts den
divebombed dem on Cash. Dat was all I culd handle though anna I
carried the 3rd one to try to hide it but Aunti Mabel founded it an
ated it.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

--

my vet is very cautious about reccomending foods, when we started on
wellness was when tiger got crystals, i know it probablt didin't cause them
but once on the c/d he never got another one, and for an older cat to not
reoccur is not usualy l. she didn't have anything bbad to say about any of
the wilderness except the one that says its limited ingr. in her opinion 12
is not limited... her only other concern in general is that duck is often
used as a control food so feeding it on a regular basis removes it from that
role.

now that chester needs lower protien we are on some food i honestly don't
know what, for some reason i didn't ask dh. vet tech says all of these
kidney foods are fine for chester, oej and trudi, but we will have to
supplement the other three because they are so much younger.

vet's final statement is the truest statement about catfood, and dogfood for
that matter, it was: "there is no perfect food, each cat, and each family of
cats have a "best for" them and that differs from household to household..."

soft
"cshenk" wrote in message
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Storrmmee wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

iza buffaloz wildernezz inna same famblee aza blue wildernezz...ted
telled soft dat her duzint like da fudz wut say "limited" ingreedintz
beclawz hersef cownted... anna da onez regulur hoominz can say iz 12
of dem, her awso sayz dat one ofur isue iz dat inna kind soft getted
uses iz dat duck iza fudz dey fedz ifin a kitty gets 'lergeez anna
ifin one of uses haza 'lergic reachun dat itz owt... her liksa
protieenz fur yunger kitteez, so barbi mh anna storrmmee kan haffa
bule wilderness... chester "Ranger Greykitten"

Meowmie is gonna answr gud fuds fur maiself.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

Hi! Carol here, Not gonna try cat chat (grin).

There is a difference. Potentially a cat that needs a limited protien
intake can't have blue wildrness and not sure if blue buffalo has a
special diet section suitable for a reduced protien diet.

Blue Wilderness- 6 star rated ( see dogfoodanalysis.com and ther isn't
a site for cat food but the info is relatively the same). This is a
truely quality grain free food. My local store carries 3 versions for
cats (duck, salmon, chicken).

Blue Buffalo- less expensive and not grain free, but still a quality
production product with a solid rating of 4 and a few 5's. Rates
higher than wellness now as welness has cheapened the product somewhat
in the last 3 years. If you cat has no grain issues, blue buffalo is a
very decent brand and wellness of course is ok. Warning though,
wellness is going the way of science diet and IAMs, trading on earlier
reputation and no longer all that 'special'.

If you have a cat with allergies, it is almost always wheat, corn, or
soy. Same for dogs BTW and symptoms are very close for both types.

Per my vet: most people who *think* their pet has some sort of meat
allergie, actually have a wheat, corn or soy allergy but do not know
how (or maybe don't bother?) to read labels. The most common one per
my vet is 'my cat is allergic to beef'. No, you cat is allergic to
wheat and you are getting cans with 'gravy' so it looks nice to your
eyes and that gravy is almost always wheat gluten though occasionally
you find corn starch (same problem, corn allergy).

I have the dratted luck to have 3 pets who are all wheat/corn/soy
intolerant. Well, actually I'm not totally sure on soy but the wheat
and corn are definate.

The signs in a cat or dog as said are very similar. Usually the first
sign is ear infections, commonly yeast based and recurrant. Daisy-chan
and Cash can take 2 bites on a non-grain free food to develop this.

Next common thing is itchy patchy fur and excess licking expecially
belly for cats and feet/toes for dogs. Aunti Mabel arrived with spots
gnawed raw and no fur on her belly which was literally seeping clear
fluid. Cases like her's can look very much like mange. She's still
battling ear infection issues because it was allowed to go on so long,
the vets don't know what to do anymore. She has some very expensive
tests on the 28th to see if they can figure it out. She is an extreme
case of grain allergy and may be one of the few with other allergies
but that's what the tests will help determine.

Things to look for in the label: wheat, wheat gluten, gluten, corn,
corn starch, soy, soy protien, wheat solids. There are others but
those are the more common ones.

Treats matter too! You see in our 'chat' that Daisy-chan and the
pooches get jerky treats. They also get lots of 'Chez Shenk's' special
meals like pig blood with chopped pig liver, shrimp (whole or heads,
with shell), home made bone broth every day except when I run low and
they get dashi (grain free fish broth from powder) and lots of other
grain-free things. My vet says even the folks who 'get it' with the
standard canned or kibble, tend to forget this one. 'oh have a nibble
of my samwich' (wheat bread). 'But it was just a nibble!' doesnt work
here.

I fostered another elderly dog (17-18) dog who is since RB. He had no
grain issues at all. He just had to have his daily fix of milk bone
biscuits like all the years before or he'd feel like he 'wasn't a good
boy'. His owner died before him but had fed him 2 every day sharp at
4pm as a snack to tide over until dinner. Grin, we of course *tried*
jerky on him for it but ended up getting his favorite milk bones just
for him after 2 days. That was 'Unca Sammy' which you may see in the
archives.

Meowmie Carol for Daisy-chan

i bet urhoomin giffed her an xtra tweet, chesgter
"cshenk" wrote in message
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Storrmmee wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

i iz takin mine pillz like i iz spozedta du, butted diz changin da
fudz arownd iz not a gud thing at all, chester "cshenk"
wrote in message
...
Storrmmee wrote in rec.pets.cats.community:

da ted hada nerf ta tella soft mine thyroid anna kidneyz wzu, high
normal!!! mine insidez iz juzt fine thankursef bderree muc!!! den
worzt of all, instead of mine bluewilderness fudz, i wuz giffed
sum kidneyz fuz... not nearlee az tastee, anna ted awso haz sayed
no more meat snakz fur mine sef!!!

I iz not purlezed wif diz at all.

Ouch Chester! Mai favorite kibble is mai bluewilderness! Meowmie
hasn't giben mmaiself anny since I came back frum the Ted without 2
hurtted toofs. Iz jus getting gooshy fud anna it tastes a little
funny. I peeked anna Charlotte adds sum medicine stuff to mai
gooshy fud. I dunno how long it will be but itz not tasting too
bad.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

--

Iz not gettin no pills. I spit them out faster den meowmie kin
load'em! Mai mouf barely hurtz now anna i dont remember it feeling
this unhurty fur a long time. It jus slowly creapt up like we would do
onna mousie ya know? Maiself gotted used to it anna I didnt know it
hurtted dat bad til it stopped.

Todai I gotted 2 shrimp heads anna I ate dem of all the gud parts den
divebombed dem on Cash. Dat was all I culd handle though anna I
carried the 3rd one to try to hide it but Aunti Mabel founded it an
ated it.

Daisy-chan, the Magnifiscent!!

--

On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:56:35 -0500, Storrmmee wrote:

my vet is very cautious about reccomending foods, when we started on
wellness was when tiger got crystals, i know it probablt didin't cause them

Anaïs had to switch to Royal Canine S-39 Urinary for her crystals,
and she eventually got used to it. And it did stop the crystals.

The breeder I bought Cybèle and Oriane from feeds Wellness and Blue
Wilderness DUck, so I followed suit; they both like it.

For reasons unknown, she fed Fancy Feet gushy food, which is about 35
cents a can here, and all of the other breeders took a hissy fit at
that. I'm giving it to them now until they get comfy here, but I will
switch them to Blue and Wellness wet foods gradually. They're such
tiny little things, a 3 oz can lasts for 3 feedings, so I can
certainly afford the better wet foods - as long as I am working.

And I keep my fingers crossed: there are over 800 unemployed lawyers
in the Greater NYC area (most of them from the financial industries)
and very few jobs. I pray to the Lord every night - at my age I have
no chance if I get laid-off again - there are recent law-school grads
who are taking jobs from Craigslist at $32,500..... Ooops, sorry for
the human digression....


--
Purrs,

Cybèle & Oriane

“I love cats because I take pleasure in my home; and little by
little, the cats become its visible soul.�
Jean Cocteau, 1889-1963

6/23/2011 7:34:50 PM

On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:08:00 -0500, Storrmmee wrote:

da strang thing iz dat alla dat fur frum shafed belliez iz gowin sumwherez
but i nefur seez itsef when i iz atta TEDZ, chester

Maybe dey makes sweaterz from itz. Mine Human saw a wady on Catz 101
who makes purses frum Purrsian furz day she kollekts after groomink...
--
Purrs,

Cybèle & Oriane

“I love cats because I take pleasure in my home; and little by
little, the cats become its visible soul.�
Jean Cocteau, 1889-1963

6/23/2011 7:43:00 PM