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hopitus wrote:
On Nov 20, 1:13 pm, "Granby" wrote: If you think the pills wee fun, you should do the stuff they run through your veins. Next day they gave me potassium all day."Lesley" wrote in message ... On Nov 20, 3:12 am, "Granby" wrote: Then, they gave me lasix and ruined the whole thing! Years ago my mum decided that I didn't have puppy fat I had "water retention" and she got her hands on some Lasix from a friend of hers and made me take it as this was the weekend when my dad was redecorating the bathroom and the toilet was disconnected from the water supply I suspect it was an act of sadism on her part Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs OMG that drug has some very unpleasant plus dangerous side effects. And all these many years, I held a grudge...beyond the grave...to my mother for shoving *butter* down my throat at 3am to attempt to lower my 108oF fever when I had the Asian flu at age 15, instead of getting a doctor! Your mum tops that.I am glad you survived to be with us. one AFAIC. 108 degree temp? You are lucky to be here. It would be interesting if there were a way to go back and check some mothers' IQs.When I think of some things my mother did, I wonder! MLB |
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"hopitus" wrote in message ... On Nov 20, 2:40 pm, MLB wrote: hopitus wrote: On Nov 20, 1:13 pm, "Granby" wrote: If you think the pills wee fun, you should do the stuff they run through your veins. Next day they gave me potassium all day."Lesley" wrote in message ... On Nov 20, 3:12 am, "Granby" wrote: Then, they gave me lasix and ruined the whole thing! Years ago my mum decided that I didn't have puppy fat I had "water retention" and she got her hands on some Lasix from a friend of hers and made me take it as this was the weekend when my dad was redecorating the bathroom and the toilet was disconnected from the water supply I suspect it was an act of sadism on her part Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs OMG that drug has some very unpleasant plus dangerous side effects. And all these many years, I held a grudge...beyond the grave...to my mother for shoving *butter* down my throat at 3am to attempt to lower my 108oF fever when I had the Asian flu at age 15, instead of getting a doctor! Your mum tops that.I am glad you survived to be with us. one AFAIC. 108 degree temp? You are lucky to be here. It would be interesting if there were a way to go back and check some mothers' IQs.When I think of some things my mother did, I wonder! MLB My parents were just dumb. Father a mountain man from Tenn. hills, 7 of his siblings died when he was 17, including his fave 15-year-old bro, from typhoid fever spreed by their family's cistern well (12 kids,2 adults). Mother from the LA delta 'Cajun towns where they wouldn't know a doctor if one ran them over. Today they call it criminal negligence. People like this are still raising kids, but many of them landed here from foreign countries with lower living standards. Which leads to a current, up-to-the-minute health care argument which I refuse to enter here. We just lost a family member a couple weeks ago due to stupid stubborn mountain idiocy. He had the Flu ( not swine) so bad that it went to his heart. He refused to go to the doctor or hospital even though he was laid up in the bed barely able to breathe. The true stupid thing; which I think their side of family is looking at charges to be pressed or should, is that his wife is a long time Nurse and did not call 911 or the doctor because he said not to that he was fine. The worse thing is that their son is a doctor and was away. He found out that his father was sick than died. He was irate that no one called him or a doctor. He said dam his father's pride he would have been in the ER. If he had to drag him there. My friend May he rest in peace pasted away a couple months ago due to lung cancer. The doctor told him to stop smoking that if he did not stop the chemo he needed would not work. He refused still went through the treatments. He died a few weeks later. May he rest in peace but I have no sympathy for or his wife; she knew but ignored the situation. Mountain pride as it is called I would love to take a baseball bat to them and people like that. Ignorant pride needs to be beaten out of people IMO plain and simple. |
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"hopitus" wrote in message ... On Nov 20, 3:30 pm, "Matthew" wrote: "hopitus" wrote in message ... On Nov 20, 2:40 pm, MLB wrote: hopitus wrote: On Nov 20, 1:13 pm, "Granby" wrote: If you think the pills wee fun, you should do the stuff they run through your veins. Next day they gave me potassium all day."Lesley" wrote in message ... On Nov 20, 3:12 am, "Granby" wrote: Then, they gave me lasix and ruined the whole thing! Years ago my mum decided that I didn't have puppy fat I had "water retention" and she got her hands on some Lasix from a friend of hers and made me take it as this was the weekend when my dad was redecorating the bathroom and the toilet was disconnected from the water supply I suspect it was an act of sadism on her part Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs OMG that drug has some very unpleasant plus dangerous side effects. And all these many years, I held a grudge...beyond the grave...to my mother for shoving *butter* down my throat at 3am to attempt to lower my 108oF fever when I had the Asian flu at age 15, instead of getting a doctor! Your mum tops that.I am glad you survived to be with us. one AFAIC. 108 degree temp? You are lucky to be here. It would be interesting if there were a way to go back and check some mothers' IQs.When I think of some things my mother did, I wonder! MLB My parents were just dumb. Father a mountain man from Tenn. hills, 7 of his siblings died when he was 17, including his fave 15-year-old bro, from typhoid fever spreed by their family's cistern well (12 kids,2 adults). Mother from the LA delta 'Cajun towns where they wouldn't know a doctor if one ran them over. Today they call it criminal negligence. People like this are still raising kids, but many of them landed here from foreign countries with lower living standards. Which leads to a current, up-to-the-minute health care argument which I refuse to enter here. We just lost a family member a couple weeks ago due to stupid stubborn mountain idiocy. He had the Flu ( not swine) so bad that it went to his heart. He refused to go to the doctor or hospital even though he was laid up in the bed barely able to breathe. The true stupid thing; which I think their side of family is looking at charges to be pressed or should, is that his wife is a long time Nurse and did not call 911 or the doctor because he said not to that he was fine. The worse thing is that their son is a doctor and was away. He found out that his father was sick than died. He was irate that no one called him or a doctor. He said dam his father's pride he would have been in the ER. If he had to drag him there. My friend May he rest in peace pasted away a couple months ago due to lung cancer. The doctor told him to stop smoking that if he did not stop the chemo he needed would not work. He refused still went through the treatments. He died a few weeks later. May he rest in peace but I have no sympathy for or his wife; she knew but ignored the situation. Mountain pride as it is called I would love to take a baseball bat to them and people like that. Ignorant pride needs to be beaten out of people IMO plain and simple. But it is how they were raised. I met both sides during travel when I was younger. Both, in different ways, were among the finest people I ever met. All distant and not-so-distant cuzzins whom I enjoyed thoroughly. They just lead much more simple lives than we do. We citified kin have gained so much more in knowledge and utilization of the modern innovations....but we've lost a few things of value they still respect, IMHO. BTW Matt I have some friends, not relatives, from Bowling Green rural area, who I value highly as longtime pals in Miami. Mountain pride is not all a bad thing socially. I have had some of the best times of my life with these friends. Not what I meant my friend. There is major difference in Mountain pride and mountain stubborn pride which is what I meant. My apologies for the misunderstanding. These people I mentioned were citified country people who knew better but their mountain stubborn pride got in the way. No excuse for them they all knew better. I do miss the simple ways and the fun we had. What you can do with stick, safety pin and some string but would I take it over having healthcare and veterinary care close by in case of emergency. Never again I have talked with Mom about going back to Kentucky to our family farm and living there again but we both agreed it would probably kills us to keep up with it ;-) |
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MLB wrote:
hopitus wrote: OMG that drug has some very unpleasant plus dangerous side effects. And all these many years, I held a grudge...beyond the grave...to my mother for shoving *butter* down my throat at 3am to attempt to lower my 108oF fever when I had the Asian flu at age 15, instead of getting a doctor! Your mum tops that.I am glad you survived to be with us. one AFAIC. 108 degree temp? You are lucky to be here. It would be interesting if there were a way to go back and check some mothers' IQs.When I think of some things my mother did, I wonder! MLB Hops is confused. 108 wasn't her temp, it was her mom's IQ. (Seriously, I think she was exaggerating. 108F temp = dead. Most people can't even survive 106.) (Metric conversion: 108F = 42.2C, 106 = 41.1.) Joyce -- Taxes: Money you complain about giving the government, to pay for services whose absence you would complain about. -- John O'Hanlon |
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MLB wrote:
wrote: Hops is confused. 108 wasn't her temp, it was her mom's IQ. (Seriously, I think she was exaggerating. 108F temp = dead. Most people can't even survive 106.) (Metric conversion: 108F = 42.2C, 106 = 41.1.) A 108 IQ is in the range of average It was probably an exaggeration to say it was 108 temperature. MLB You're kidding. That doesn't sound right to me (about the IQ). I'm not going to swear by it because I'm not sure, but that seems pretty low to me. Mine is quite a bit above that and I am hardly a genius. I don't actually know what the different range cut-offs are, though - what is considered developmentally disabled, what's average, and what's genius? And then, of course, the IQ only tells a little bit about a person's intelligence - there's usually a lot more to it than just how well a person performs on logic, computation and language tests. I'm not saying it's completely invalid - it's the truth, but not the whole truth. There's also the "EQ" - the emotional intelligence. It certainly plays an important role in a person's overall intelligence, as much if not more than the IQ. Mine is rather low, I have to admit. :-O (I don't have a number, but from how it's described, I can tell that I wouldn't do very well.) And whatever skills I do have in that area, I've gotten *during my adulthood* by consciously working at it. Lord knows I was let loose on the world as a young adult with hardly any skills to navigate the social universe! Joyce -- The sun rose slowly, like a fiery furball coughed up uneasily onto a sky-blue carpet by a giant unseen cat. -- Michael McGarel |
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Matthew wrote:
We just lost a family member a couple weeks ago due to stupid stubborn mountain idiocy. He had the Flu ( not swine) so bad that it went to his heart. He refused to go to the doctor or hospital even though he was laid up in the bed barely able to breathe. The true stupid thing; which I think their side of family is looking at charges to be pressed or should, is that his wife is a long time Nurse and did not call 911 or the doctor because he said not to that he was fine. The worse thing is that their son is a doctor and was away. He found out that his father was sick than died. He was irate that no one called him or a doctor. He said dam his father's pride he would have been in the ER. If he had to drag him there. My friend May he rest in peace pasted away a couple months ago due to lung cancer. The doctor told him to stop smoking that if he did not stop the chemo he needed would not work. He refused still went through the treatments. He died a few weeks later. May he rest in peace but I have no sympathy for or his wife; she knew but ignored the situation. Mountain pride as it is called I would love to take a baseball bat to them and people like that. Ignorant pride needs to be beaten out of people IMO plain and simple. It's not limited to mountains, and people do have the right to refuse to see a doctor or follow a doctor's instructions, even if they die as a result. Mind you, most won't. When the mother of a friend of mine was in her last illness, she was reluctant to consult a doctor, and of course, since she was conscious and in her right mind, the ambulance attendance wouldn't take her unless she consented. Her daughter finally said "Do you want to put me through the same thing X (a close friend who refused to get medical treatment) put you through?" and she went, although the emergency surgery that followed revealed terminal cancer, and she never woke up after the operation. If someone can't or won't follow their doctor's directions, that's their choice, and really, if they're determined, not even a spouse can or should take responsibility for making them change their minds (unless, of course, they are underaged or not in their right minds). It's a very serious (and usually pointless) thing to do to *force* someone to quit smoking or see a doctor and follow directions. Suggest, urge, persuade them to, yes. But ultimately the decision is theirs. -- Cheryl |
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Sometimes that refusal can be made out of fear, take the time to figure the
difference. Believe me I know. Been there, ignored that. "Cheryl" wrote in message ... Matthew wrote: We just lost a family member a couple weeks ago due to stupid stubborn mountain idiocy. He had the Flu ( not swine) so bad that it went to his heart. He refused to go to the doctor or hospital even though he was laid up in the bed barely able to breathe. The true stupid thing; which I think their side of family is looking at charges to be pressed or should, is that his wife is a long time Nurse and did not call 911 or the doctor because he said not to that he was fine. The worse thing is that their son is a doctor and was away. He found out that his father was sick than died. He was irate that no one called him or a doctor. He said dam his father's pride he would have been in the ER. If he had to drag him there. My friend May he rest in peace pasted away a couple months ago due to lung cancer. The doctor told him to stop smoking that if he did not stop the chemo he needed would not work. He refused still went through the treatments. He died a few weeks later. May he rest in peace but I have no sympathy for or his wife; she knew but ignored the situation. Mountain pride as it is called I would love to take a baseball bat to them and people like that. Ignorant pride needs to be beaten out of people IMO plain and simple. It's not limited to mountains, and people do have the right to refuse to see a doctor or follow a doctor's instructions, even if they die as a result. Mind you, most won't. When the mother of a friend of mine was in her last illness, she was reluctant to consult a doctor, and of course, since she was conscious and in her right mind, the ambulance attendance wouldn't take her unless she consented. Her daughter finally said "Do you want to put me through the same thing X (a close friend who refused to get medical treatment) put you through?" and she went, although the emergency surgery that followed revealed terminal cancer, and she never woke up after the operation. If someone can't or won't follow their doctor's directions, that's their choice, and really, if they're determined, not even a spouse can or should take responsibility for making them change their minds (unless, of course, they are underaged or not in their right minds). It's a very serious (and usually pointless) thing to do to *force* someone to quit smoking or see a doctor and follow directions. Suggest, urge, persuade them to, yes. But ultimately the decision is theirs. -- Cheryl |
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