[Fwd: Cat Forever Snobby]

Larry R Harrison Jr wrote:

Thanks for the posts. Based on what I've heard, odds are pretty high the cat
will be rehomed.

Good to hear... for the cat's sake.

My wife has suggested it, because she ALSO does not like
this snotty behavior.

::rolling eyes::

And the thing is, while you guys may be good at
accepting a cat on its own terms, neither of us are

Then you shouldn't have them as pets.

--at least with this
thing. Other things we can live with "as is," but not this one.

Pets don't come with behavior menus. You need to accept the package
wholistically or don't waste your and their time trying to force
something unnatural.

It's not a
matter of control, it's a matter of that the main reason we'd even have a
cat to begin with is so we can occasionally pick it up & hold it--maybe just
for 10-15 seconds, big deal.

The *main* reason you have a cat is so that you can hold something
soft and furry? Try a stuffed animal.

Is that so much to ask? We don't think so, and
if the cat thinks so, it has no right to be here.

You and your wife are seriously f-ed up.

It is about what MY preferences are, and my wife's--the cat's all but don't
matter a wit.

Okay, if you're not a troll or doing some kind of psych experiment on
cat lovers, PLEASE do not subject any other life form to your brand of
human arrogance. Animals do not exist to do your bidding. The true
joy in pet ownership is the two-way relationship that evolves over
time, not egocentric dominance.

I'm done with you. I sincerely hope this was a joke. If not, I'll be
praying that you place all your cats in alternate homes so they can
experience real love and not the sick twisted power-trip you seem to
equate with affection.



We choose to LET a cat live with us that behaves as we want it
to--no cat will be perfect of course, but certain things are total no-nos.
BOTH of us dislike this snottiness, and won't tolerate it. Period. The other
two cats don't exhibit this behavior, and exhibit nothing severe enough for
us to be upset about it, so they are staying.

We have our own expectations, and this is one of them. Other ones: we don't
like cats which like us but are snotty to people who come over. One of the
other two (not the twin to the snot-head) has always been friendly with
company. The other of the twin? Haven't seen it yet. Then again, we don't
have company over a lot, so we could probably not make a deal out of it
either way, but if we had company often, that would be a sticking point.

So with this "snotty" issue--okay, maybe it doesn't mean anything personal
with resistence towards being picked up. I don't care. I TAKE it personally.
I dislike it, my wife dislikes it, and the other two cats don't exhibit this
snotty personality. The main thing that's been a reason we've resisted and
still keep her at this point is because it still is very cute & cuddly, and
it has a twin it plays with. We'd really rather not split up the twins. But
my wife is ALSO starting to tire of the cat's snottiness and is starting to
say she'd just assume see it go.

For us, it's not about taking in a cat and letting it be what it is, at
least with something like this. Other things: yes. Some are more playful
than others, some more mellow. You don't try to make a mellow cat hyper, or
a hyper cat mellow. They are what they are. But if your own reason for
owning a cat in the 1st place is to have something cuddly to hold a few
seconds during the day, and they won't let you do it, they have no business
being there. They don't deserve you.

LRH

Larry R Harrison Jr wrote:

Okay, call me a "troll." I'm not. I really feel the way I feel. Even my
wife--who is a much gentler soul than me--was complaining about it. "I just
want to hold you" she would say, and would then put the cat down "fine, be
that way." I don't blame her.

So you expect that just because you want your cat to behave like a
human that it will? (you do realize that cats don't understand
English, right?) How unfamiliar are you with animals?

Y'know, this is the kind of thing one hears about child abusers: that
they can't understand how their baby could be so unappreciative of all
their hard work that it would continue to cry even though they begged
it to stop. Do you see how foolish and dangerous this kind
ego-centrism is? The purpose of owning pets is not to get something
from them, it's to give something to them.

If this doesn't jive with your needs, then please return the cats to a
shelter so someone with more common sense can rescue them from your
household.

Larry R Harrison Jr wrote:

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...

in article , Larry R Harrison Jr at
wrote on 12/10/04 10:53 PM:
Just like people cats have personalities and some cats do
not like to be held. It doesn't make them snotty, it makes them cats with
their own personality.



In my book, it's snotty. That's it, case closed. And it's unacceptable
behavior in my house. I take you in because, yes, 95% of the time I'm just
going to sit back while you play and do your own thing. But every now &
then, with you looking so cute & cuddly, I'm going to want to pick you up
and hold you, probably for 25-30 seconds at which time I've had my fill and
you can go on with yourself. Big deal. What's so criminal about that? And
I'm thinking--as such, how DARE you protest something so innocent as me
wanting to--egads!--hold you for 25 seconds.

I can have 35 other cats in my house that are not snobby, and still I won't
allow even one to be that way. It's just unacceptable.

If there is some way to make it be something else, if there is some
mannerisms I can undertake which increase the likelihood she will stop being
SNOTTY, then I am willing to try. But I most certainly WILL NOT accept her
as she is. Not a chance. She's here to be my pet, and that means her focus
is pleasing me and that's the end of the discussion as far as that goes.

If it's not her personality, she will be rehomed. Either that, or she may
find herself caged up right here, FORCED to be in a position where she can't
run and hide and disassociate herself. Either way, it won't be a power
"struggle," because she will lose. She can lose the easy way, or the hard
way. Or, again, if there is a certain way I can be with her that makes her
un-snotty that isn't a power struggle but a way of bringing her around, I'll
all for doing it that way.

LRHs


Seems to me you have a personality issue, not a cat issue. Are you so
insecure that the non-compliance from one little critter threatens
your ego? If you treat the humans in your life this way, I will guess
you will be, or are, a very lonely person.

On 2004-12-11, BudGan penned:

They are what they are. But if your own reason for owning a cat in
the 1st place is to have something cuddly to hold a few seconds
during the day, and they won't let you do it, they have no business
being there. They don't deserve you.

Please don't breed.

--
monique

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2004-12-11, BudGan penned:

They are what they are. But if your own reason for owning a cat in
the 1st place is to have something cuddly to hold a few seconds
during the day, and they won't let you do it, they have no business
being there. They don't deserve you.


Please don't breed.

Okay, what the heck is with people misquoting in this newsgroup??? I
did NOT write that paragraph. Please be careful!

On 2004-12-13, BudGan penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2004-12-11, Larry R Harrison Jr penned:

They are what they are. But if your own reason for owning a cat in the 1st
place is to have something cuddly to hold a few seconds during the day,
and they won't let you do it, they have no business being there. They
don't deserve you.


Please don't breed.

Okay, what the heck is with people misquoting in this newsgroup??? I did
NOT write that paragraph. Please be careful!

Argh! Profuse apologies. The freak in question was Larry R Harrison Jr.

I never got the original message on my server, and it was late and I screwed
up =/

--
monique, who is sometimes allowed to pet Oscar, a grey^H^H^H^Hblue-cream DLH
with an attitude!

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
...
On 2004-12-11, BudGan penned:

They are what they are. But if your own reason for owning a cat in
the 1st place is to have something cuddly to hold a few seconds
during the day, and they won't let you do it, they have no business
being there. They don't deserve you.

Please don't breed.

--

Probably not much chance of that for Mr. Charm there.

"BudGan" wrote in message
...
Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2004-12-11, BudGan penned:

They are what they are. But if your own reason for owning a cat in
the 1st place is to have something cuddly to hold a few seconds
during the day, and they won't let you do it, they have no business
being there. They don't deserve you.


Please don't breed.

Okay, what the heck is with people misquoting in this newsgroup??? I did
NOT write that paragraph. Please be careful!


Bud--I thought that sounded like Larry. I take my barb back and aim it at
Larry. Sorry.