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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"CatNipped" wrote Yes, indeed, there are so many reasons to keep breeding "pure-bred" cats until, like over-bred dogs, every single breed has its concommitant (usually painful, often deadly) defects - while perfectly healthy moggies are euthanized for want of a home. This be mah favrit part. |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"cybercat" wrote in message
... "CatNipped" wrote Yes, indeed, there are so many reasons to keep breeding "pure-bred" cats until, like over-bred dogs, every single breed has its concommitant (usually painful, often deadly) defects - while perfectly healthy moggies are euthanized for want of a home. This be mah favrit part. Thanks. I know I shouldn't bother replying because it will do absolutely no good, but every once in a while I can't help myself, I just have to scream to the heavens and hope logic prevails! ; Hugs, CatNipped |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"cybercat" wrote in message
... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "dontcountstars" wrote in message news:470395_778fc3252a3d4ef52dbc34a2de84a519@0000. com... neuterings. (I'm a qualified veterinary nurse) Do you do anything to help, other than harrass people online? He he he! Got a couple of days to read a list of all that Phil P. does to help cats? [Snips CN's excellent, detailed, thoughtful and accurate post.] Good work! You will notice that I just killfile these assholes. I am glad someone can be bothered to try to talk some sense into them. I get too upset when I try, and when Mama ain't happy ain't NOBODY happy. (In other words, I have to stop making assholes like this so mad they try to hunt me down and hurt my feelings.) Oh no - you should take pride in what you do best! I *wish* I had your ability to skewer the terminally stupid! ; Hugs, CatNipped |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"CatNipped" wrote in message ... "cybercat" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote Yes, indeed, there are so many reasons to keep breeding "pure-bred" cats until, like over-bred dogs, every single breed has its concommitant (usually painful, often deadly) defects - while perfectly healthy moggies are euthanized for want of a home. This be mah favrit part. Thanks. I know I shouldn't bother replying because it will do absolutely no good, but every once in a while I can't help myself, I just have to scream to the heavens and hope logic prevails! ; No, it is really good that you are willing to do this. I wish I were not too disgusted to bother. You do more good than I do. |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"CatNipped" wrote in message ... "cybercat" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "dontcountstars" wrote in message news:470395_778fc3252a3d4ef52dbc34a2de84a519@0000. com... neuterings. (I'm a qualified veterinary nurse) Do you do anything to help, other than harrass people online? He he he! Got a couple of days to read a list of all that Phil P. does to help cats? [Snips CN's excellent, detailed, thoughtful and accurate post.] Good work! You will notice that I just killfile these assholes. I am glad someone can be bothered to try to talk some sense into them. I get too upset when I try, and when Mama ain't happy ain't NOBODY happy. (In other words, I have to stop making assholes like this so mad they try to hunt me down and hurt my feelings.) Oh no - you should take pride in what you do best! I *wish* I had your ability to skewer the terminally stupid! ; You can convert more cat abusers with information, though. Good work, CN. I admire your dedication. |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"cybercat" wrote in message
... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "cybercat" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "dontcountstars" wrote in message news:470395_778fc3252a3d4ef52dbc34a2de84a519@0000. com... neuterings. (I'm a qualified veterinary nurse) Do you do anything to help, other than harrass people online? He he he! Got a couple of days to read a list of all that Phil P. does to help cats? [Snips CN's excellent, detailed, thoughtful and accurate post.] Good work! You will notice that I just killfile these assholes. I am glad someone can be bothered to try to talk some sense into them. I get too upset when I try, and when Mama ain't happy ain't NOBODY happy. (In other words, I have to stop making assholes like this so mad they try to hunt me down and hurt my feelings.) Oh no - you should take pride in what you do best! I *wish* I had your ability to skewer the terminally stupid! ; You can convert more cat abusers with information, though. Good work, CN. I admire your dedication. Thanks, I just wish I had the time and resources to put words to action like Phil does - he's the real hero! Hugs, CatNipped |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"Cheryl" wrote in message
... On Mon 07 Jul 2008 04:00:55p, CatNipped wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav : Which pedigree charactersitics are so beneficial to the cat population that they should be perpetuated? Sorry for snipping all the rest, including the OP but still have computer problems. lol Great post. Not to mention the health risks to queen including pyometra and mammary cancer. Another another thing, don't "reputable" breeders have resources other than a newsgroup to ask these questions? The same old MO. They ask a question and then when challenged they post the "missing" info to make themselves feel better. pfft. -- Cheryl What breeders - both legitimate and backyard - don't seem to get is the extrapolation from the data I posted. The breeds with the most / worst defects are the "older" breeds like the Persian and Siamese - the ones who have been bred the longest. Ergo, the more you breed for specific traits (inbreeding if truth be told), the worse you make it the breed - and the more tragic the consequences for the cat. Another thing that drives me crazy is when breeders say, "Well my clients don't want a moggie, they will only buy a pure-bred". Well, how wonderful would it be if the people who only want pure-bred status symbols won't have a cat to abuse or throw away if it goes out of "style", and only people who truly love cats and want to add a member to their families are the only ones who *get* cats! *SIGH* I'm preaching to the choir, I know! Hugs, CatNipped |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"dontcountstars" wrote in message news:470395_778fc3252a3d4ef52dbc34a2de84a519@0000. com... Thankyou for your misjudged replies, I'd say my replies were right on target. You welcome. however I'm doing nothing wrong. As long as you're breeding cats while cats are dying in shelters because there aren't enough homes- you can bet your "irresponsible, morally bankrupt" ass you're doing something wrong. snip- not interested your opinion of your cats' credentials I am only interested in finding top quality homes for any kittens I breed, ....and every top quality home you find for your intentionally bred cats, is one home less for a cat languishing in a shelter where she'll be eventually killed. and making sure I do my part to only breed from the best possible cats, If you want to do your part for the feline species- don't breed any more cats. so as to further the progression of the breed. "Progression of the breed"... sounds like a phrase straight out of Mein Kampf. The cats don't need you to further the progression of the species. They were doing just fine before you circle-jerking 50-cent geneticists started "improving" them. Your kind really "improved" the Himalayans... and the Persians... and the Siamese, didn't you? You bred genetic defects into those breeds that never before exisited in nature. If you really want to further the progression of the breed-- leeeaaavvveee them the **** alone. Just so you know, I also am well aware of the problem with overpopulation, You are? And you *still* want to breed more cats??? Whar are you, a moron or just a "irresponsible, morally bankrupt person"? I do a lot of volutary work at the local animal sanctuary ....between breeding more cats? What do you there? Try to make room for the cats whose homes were displaced by your kittens? (I'm a qualified veterinary nurse) Credentials don't guarantee credibility- one can exist without the other. You're a shining example! You're a "qualified veterinary nurse" and you have to come to a newsgroup to ask a stupid question? How did you get your credentials? From a matchbook cover? Do you do anything to help, other than harrass people online? Yeah, I do- but I'm not doing it right now because I'm harrassing you for contributing to the cat overpopulation problem. Pedigree breedings are not to blame for overpopulation and abandoned animals, Naaa, you just contribute to the overpopulation problem. You're just like a fool who pours gas on a fire and doesn't take responsibility for the damage because he didn't start the fire. and without the continuation of the many hundreds of year old pedigree lines, these breeds would completely die out and become extinct, which would be a terrible loss for mankind. Half of those breeds didn't exist in nature to begin with, - and the other half have genetic defects from circle-jerking, 50-cent geneticists like you trying to "improve" the breeds. So really, I resent your assumption that I am an irresponsible, morally bankrupt person, I'm glad to hear it! After reading your reply, I see my assumption was correct! and feel that perhaps you should not jump to conclusions next time, Why not? My conclusions were correct. and also work on a better way to get your message across, I *have* a better way. But if you don't like this way, you damn sure wouldn't like my "better way".. other than being inappropriately rude when someone asks an innocent question. Its impossible to be "inappropriately rude" to a breeder- I could never be rude enough to a breeder-- and I'm really good at being rude! The only good thing about breeders is no matter what I say or do to them- I *never* feel bad about it- I feel the same way about animal abusers. |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
"Phil P." wrote in message
news:Z%Cck.350$rb1.46@trndny08... "Progression of the breed"... sounds like a phrase straight out of Mein Kampf. The cats don't need you to further the progression of the species. They were doing just fine before you circle-jerking 50-cent geneticists started "improving" them. Your kind really "improved" the Himalayans... and the Persians... and the Siamese, didn't you? You bred genetic defects into those breeds that never before exisited in nature. If you really want to further the progression of the breed-- leeeaaavvveee them the **** alone. I don't want to waste any more time on the moron you're replying to, but I just had to add my two cents to this. How in *HELL* can anyone "improve" nature's perfect predator??! Hubris! Hugs, CatNipped |
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Tom Cat won't breed with in-season queen!??
I'm not familiar with cat breeding, and whether or not there are standards
for ethical breeders as there are in the dog world; for example, all pets must be sold with a spay/neuter contract, genetic testing appropriate for the breed must be done before breeding, any puppy must be returned to the breeder for rehoming if the owner is not able to keep it at any time during its life, and so forth. Is there such a thing in the cat world? |
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