Yeast Infection in Ears

(Liz) dumped this in news:12c83831.0403211643.2c7a0050
@posting.google.com on 21 Mar 2004:

Cheryl, if I were you, Iïd definitively switch him to raw only and
*only* meats. Forget vegetables in the recommended raw diets. That
will certainly stop his diarrhea.

sigh I would if he'd eat it. As it is, he's pushing trying to get on an
all dry diet again like what happened two years ago. This time I
recognize it and won't give in, but he's stubborn. He's very ****ed about
Bonnie getting dry to eat (and I do mean ****ed. You can see it in his
face, plus the way he runs after me when I separate her to eat and he
tries to run in before me). He's no dummy. I just got him back on
regular meals after he's been refusing his canned lately.

I am far more concerned with
diarrhea than I would be with a risk of food intoxication because of
steroids and FeLV. If you buy meats from reputable sources and freeze
before you serve, the risk is minimal. But I know youïre the one who
needs to feel comfortable with that decision. I only wish your kitty
the best.

Thank you, and he thanks you for your best wishes. We need best wishes
for Bonnie to eat what everyone else eats. She is easily stressed and
when I was trying everything to get her to eat canned food, she pulled
her fur out and refused to eat anything. She might not have the best diet
on dry but she is calm and not stressing over mealtimes. There is plenty
of time to try again later.

--
Cheryl

This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What about
the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that?

Thanks,

Stacey

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
Cheryl wrote in message
I remember that post. lol The Wellness is dry. He gets even less of it
than that now. At this point, though, nothing helps the diarrhea. I'm
starting to think it has a lot to do with the FeLV in addition to the
IBD.
He seems comfortable despite the diarrhea. Good appetite.

Cheryl, if I were you, I´d definitively switch him to raw only and
*only* meats. Forget vegetables in the recommended raw diets. That
will certainly stop his diarrhea. I am far more concerned with
diarrhea than I would be with a risk of food intoxication because of
steroids and FeLV. If you buy meats from reputable sources and freeze
before you serve, the risk is minimal. But I know you´re the one who
needs to feel comfortable with that decision. I only wish your kitty
the best.

This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What about
the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that?

Thanks,

Stacey

"Liz" wrote in message
om...
Cheryl wrote in message
I remember that post. lol The Wellness is dry. He gets even less of it
than that now. At this point, though, nothing helps the diarrhea. I'm
starting to think it has a lot to do with the FeLV in addition to the
IBD.
He seems comfortable despite the diarrhea. Good appetite.

Cheryl, if I were you, I´d definitively switch him to raw only and
*only* meats. Forget vegetables in the recommended raw diets. That
will certainly stop his diarrhea. I am far more concerned with
diarrhea than I would be with a risk of food intoxication because of
steroids and FeLV. If you buy meats from reputable sources and freeze
before you serve, the risk is minimal. But I know you´re the one who
needs to feel comfortable with that decision. I only wish your kitty
the best.

Yeast infections are indicative of a weak immune system. I suggest you
give him a better quality food and some B vitamins for at least a
month. Wish your kitty well.

He was on Nutro Kitten dry and Wellness canned. I don't know how I
could
give him much better food. He had a URI before I got him and was on
antibiotics. The vet had me put him on a bland diet of turkey and
chicken
(no onion powder!) baby food and boiled chicken breast because of loose
stools since he first arrived. It persisted and he had me give the
kitten
Metronidizole for bacteria infection. Two fecal tests showed no
parasites,
even had them sent out to a lab.

Do they make cat B vitamins or do I give him human? A B-complex? How
much?

Thanks,

Stacey

The food sounds good but his absorption is probably impared because of
lose stools. Try adding some raw to his diet. It´s imperative that his
stools go back to normal. I don´t have Wellness here or Nutro nowadays
so I couldn´t try those but Eukanuba chicken and rice was the only one
that my cat with colitis could eat without problems (colitis and IBD
seem to be the same thing). Now he´s back to raw only cuz Eukanuba
here is outrageously expensive and he´s doing great. You can give him
the same dose as a human supplement of Bs (only Bs) because the excess
is easily eliminated in the urine or to save money, cut the human
tablet in half.

This is a stupid question, but raw what? Chicken, turkey, beef? Ground up
or whole? White meat, dark? B complexes come in different strengths such
as 50 mg., 100 mg, 500 mg., etc. Which one?

Thanks!

Stacey

Yeast infections are indicative of a weak immune system. I suggest you
give him a better quality food and some B vitamins for at least a
month. Wish your kitty well.

He was on Nutro Kitten dry and Wellness canned. I don't know how I
could
give him much better food. He had a URI before I got him and was on
antibiotics. The vet had me put him on a bland diet of turkey and
chicken
(no onion powder!) baby food and boiled chicken breast because of loose
stools since he first arrived. It persisted and he had me give the
kitten
Metronidizole for bacteria infection. Two fecal tests showed no
parasites,
even had them sent out to a lab.

Do they make cat B vitamins or do I give him human? A B-complex? How
much?

Thanks,

Stacey

The food sounds good but his absorption is probably impared because of
lose stools. Try adding some raw to his diet. It´s imperative that his
stools go back to normal. I don´t have Wellness here or Nutro nowadays
so I couldn´t try those but Eukanuba chicken and rice was the only one
that my cat with colitis could eat without problems (colitis and IBD
seem to be the same thing). Now he´s back to raw only cuz Eukanuba
here is outrageously expensive and he´s doing great. You can give him
the same dose as a human supplement of Bs (only Bs) because the excess
is easily eliminated in the urine or to save money, cut the human
tablet in half.

This is a stupid question, but raw what? Chicken, turkey, beef? Ground up
or whole? White meat, dark? B complexes come in different strengths such
as 50 mg., 100 mg, 500 mg., etc. Which one?

Thanks!

Stacey

"Stacey" dumped this in
hlink.net on 23 Mar
2004:

This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What
about the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that?

My two that eat canned food, including Shadow with the IBD, both eat Pro
Plan Chicken and Rice. From what I understand, rice is easier to digest
than corn or wheat. Some home-cooked diets for IBD cats that I've seen
include rice with the meat. There used to be a commercial cat food called
Petreet that had a layer of rice under the layer of chicken cat food.
Shamrock LOVED it. It came from Italy and I'm not sure why it was
discontinued. I wrote to Petco to ask but they never replied. I'm not sure
I really want to know now; probably didn't pass requirements here in the US
or something. He only ate it for about 6 months, IIRC.

--
Cheryl

"Stacey" dumped this in
hlink.net on 23 Mar
2004:

This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What
about the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that?

My two that eat canned food, including Shadow with the IBD, both eat Pro
Plan Chicken and Rice. From what I understand, rice is easier to digest
than corn or wheat. Some home-cooked diets for IBD cats that I've seen
include rice with the meat. There used to be a commercial cat food called
Petreet that had a layer of rice under the layer of chicken cat food.
Shamrock LOVED it. It came from Italy and I'm not sure why it was
discontinued. I wrote to Petco to ask but they never replied. I'm not sure
I really want to know now; probably didn't pass requirements here in the US
or something. He only ate it for about 6 months, IIRC.

--
Cheryl

"Stacey" wrote in message thlink.net...
This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What about
the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that?

Thanks,

Stacey

My cats don´t like rice but that´s only my cats (I have 14) but they
LOVE pasta or any wheat product - bread included. I suggested that
Cheryl ignore the vegetables because her cat has IBD as does one of
mine. I tried adding some squash to his meat and it gave him a
terrible diarrhea, that´s why I recommended against it. My cat´s IBD
is beyond doubt related to fiber but not all fibers affect him; yet I
still do not know which kinds do and which don´t. I just know some
foods that he can eat and some he can´t. For instance, he can eat
white bread but not whole bread. Cats don´t need vegetables or
carbohydrates at all so if you want to stick to a strickly raw meat
diet (you can allow him to eat grass though, they really love grass),
that´s fine but you need to do some studying to know what supplements
he would need. There are groups you can join that will help you
through it and I´ll help too if you´re interested. Back to your
question, there´s no harm in giving rice if your cat will eat it and
if it doesn´t affect his stools. Just don´t give him more than 20% of
his total food intake of rice because cats really need high amounts of
protein.

"Stacey" wrote in message thlink.net...
This is interesting. The raw diets I've seen have vegetables. What about
the rice that is sometimes recommended? Do cats even like that?

Thanks,

Stacey

My cats don´t like rice but that´s only my cats (I have 14) but they
LOVE pasta or any wheat product - bread included. I suggested that
Cheryl ignore the vegetables because her cat has IBD as does one of
mine. I tried adding some squash to his meat and it gave him a
terrible diarrhea, that´s why I recommended against it. My cat´s IBD
is beyond doubt related to fiber but not all fibers affect him; yet I
still do not know which kinds do and which don´t. I just know some
foods that he can eat and some he can´t. For instance, he can eat
white bread but not whole bread. Cats don´t need vegetables or
carbohydrates at all so if you want to stick to a strickly raw meat
diet (you can allow him to eat grass though, they really love grass),
that´s fine but you need to do some studying to know what supplements
he would need. There are groups you can join that will help you
through it and I´ll help too if you´re interested. Back to your
question, there´s no harm in giving rice if your cat will eat it and
if it doesn´t affect his stools. Just don´t give him more than 20% of
his total food intake of rice because cats really need high amounts of
protein.

Cheryl wrote in message ...
(Liz) dumped this in news:12c83831.0403211643.2c7a0050
@posting.google.com on 21 Mar 2004:

Cheryl, if I were you, Iïd definitively switch him to raw only and
*only* meats. Forget vegetables in the recommended raw diets. That
will certainly stop his diarrhea.

sigh I would if he'd eat it. As it is, he's pushing trying to get on an
all dry diet again like what happened two years ago. This time I
recognize it and won't give in, but he's stubborn. He's very ****ed about
Bonnie getting dry to eat (and I do mean ****ed. You can see it in his
face, plus the way he runs after me when I separate her to eat and he
tries to run in before me). He's no dummy. I just got him back on
regular meals after he's been refusing his canned lately.

I am far more concerned with
diarrhea than I would be with a risk of food intoxication because of
steroids and FeLV. If you buy meats from reputable sources and freeze
before you serve, the risk is minimal. But I know youïre the one who
needs to feel comfortable with that decision. I only wish your kitty
the best.

Thank you, and he thanks you for your best wishes. We need best wishes
for Bonnie to eat what everyone else eats. She is easily stressed and
when I was trying everything to get her to eat canned food, she pulled
her fur out and refused to eat anything. She might not have the best diet
on dry but she is calm and not stressing over mealtimes. There is plenty
of time to try again later.

Cheryl, my heart goes out to you. You really do have finicky babies,
let me tell you that!