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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
"Those who smoke out of doors are hurting only themselves, and so far,
that's still their right." Then why do not heroin, cocaine, or meth addicts have that same right? Tobacco users should be subject to the same regulations and controls as users of other deadly addictive drugs. |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
For our friends in all the other countries -- what is the attitude toward smoking there? Do many people still smoke? Is it banned in restaurants, public buildings, hotels and such? Thanks for the info.--I was just curious. Hi Here in the UK it is currently legal to smoke pretty much anywhere but a ban on smoking in pubs, clubs and restaurants etc etc will come into effect in 2007 unless there is a legal challenge mounted by someone (one hotel chain in Scotland is doing so- Scotland got its ban a few weeks ago). People will still be allowed to smoke outside for the moment. A lot of pubs over the last few years have had designated no smoking areas and one chain (Witherspoons I think) have already banned smoking inside their pubs although you can smoke in the beer gardens I gather (I don't much care for their pubs so I am unlikely to find out) Ironically as the houses of Parliament are a Royal Palace the laws of the land do not apply so the MP's who voted this bill in, will still be able to smoke in the warm at the bar while the rest of us plebs have to freeze in winter Most workplaces have some sort of smoking policy either allowing it in designated areas or as with where I work not allowing it on site at all- we can get sacked if we smoke even in the grounds. The irony is our clinical director (Rabid anti-smoker) has an office that looks out on a road, cross the road and you are not in the grounds and cannot be touched. I am told (it's at another site) some smokers take great (if somewhat childish)pleasure at smoking opposite his window so when he looks out, he can see them but he can't sack them! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) wrote:
They are starting to get a lot males me glad We quit years and years ago http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060319/...us/smoking_ban They recently banned smoking in all public buildings here, including all bars and resteraunts (prior, you could smoke in bars), and all the bars and so-called nightclubs here in town complained that they would loose business. Well, according to a write-up in a local paper (pay to view, so I won't even bother to post a link),one of the bars has increased business by 13%!! (20% this January over last January) Bloomington. Business at Nick's is booming; the restaurant's revenue is up 15 percent from last year. Jeremy Hogan | Herald-Times » buy this photo Nick's says smoking ban helped their business By Marcela Creps Hoosier Times March 19, 2006 BLOOMINGTON - In a town where the highest grossing restaurant pulls in a little less than $4 million, surviving can be a difficult task. But for the owners of Nick's English Hut, business went up this year 13 percent, putting its earnings at the top of the list of local restaurants. One of the owners, Dick Barnes, said their numbers continue to go up a little bit every month. "We're up this January," he said. "We're up 20 percent over last January." While some area bars have complained that the smoking ban cost them business, Barnes attributes Nick's growth to the smoking ban. "We have so many more pregnant women come in," Barnes said. "We have ladies come in. We hear people say 'we've always liked Nick's but we just didn't come in because of smoking.'" Restaurant partner and general manager Mike Hall also believes the smoking ban has boosted Nick's business. "The smoking ban has helped our food business tremendously," he said. "People are now coming in to eat our food because there's no more smoking. Liquor sales didn't change much. It's the food sales that have helped us." A look at the numbers shows that Nick's did $941,065 in food sales compared with $887,516 the previous year, a 6 percent increase. Alcohol sales saw a larger increase, going up 21 percent to $1,660,390 from $1,366,849 last year. Barnes said the smoking ban has provided other benefits, including less cleaning that needs to be done to framed pictures and windows. "Also, people tell us now they can smell the food cooking in the kitchen," Barnes said. Hall said they also have healthier employees, since employees who smoke must leave the building to do so. "Some of my employees have cut back a lot, because they don't smoke in the building," he said. "It's deterred them from smoking a pack a day." A recent shift in ownership also has been good for the long-time restaurant. Barnes, Hall and longtime kitchen manager Greg "Rags" Rago are now partners. "Morale has just peaked," Barnes said. "It's really amazing." Hall agreed and credits the staff for helping make Nick's the No. 1 local restaurant. "I think the reason that our sales are up is our staff has been tremendous this year," Hall said. Morale has been super." Hall thinks new and old customers will continue to come to Bloomington. He said most of their new customers are nonsmokers who appreciate the smoke-free environment. "We've gained a new customer base," he said. Other local gainers Shanti Indian Cuisine on Kirkwood saw the largest increase, more than doubling from the previous year to $368,000. Shanti's manager Ram Parab offered a simple explanation for their increase. "It must be lots of love and affection," he said. "People care for us." Parab said nothing had changed during the past year, or even during the 10 years since the restaurant opened. He said many new customers will say they were told about the restaurant by a friend. "Definitely we're happy," Parab said. "We're really happy about the support we get." El Norteno on North Walnut more than doubled in business, going to $207,803 from $101,323. Other locals that saw large increases included Sushi Bar on 10th Street, at $342,269, and the Encore Cafe, which climbed over the $1 million mark to $1,038,711. George Huntington, general manager for Encore, said the presence of more people downtown is one of the things helping the restaurant achieve its goals. "We've had a vision all along of having a kind of community gathering spot there, and it's happening," Huntington said. "It's amazing." Huntington said the restaurant serves as a meeting place, as well as a place for music and the arts. "It's a community-owned restaurant that's really embracing the community, and the community is embracing it," Huntington said. "I'm not sure which is which." And then there's the food. Huntington stressed the importance of local products and the efforts made to include as many home-grown products as possible. "We really do push that local angle as best we can," he said. © 1997 - 2006 Hoosiertimes Inc. No commercial reproduction without prior written consent. Electronic reproduction of any kind forbidden without written consent. |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
Fat Freddy wrote: "Those who smoke out of doors are hurting only themselves, and so far, that's still their right." Then why do not heroin, cocaine, or meth addicts have that same right? Tobacco users should be subject to the same regulations and controls as users of other deadly addictive drugs. Probably because heroin, cocaine and meth are still illegal. Smoking, so far, is restricted but not yet illegal. Sherry |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
The only reason smoking is not illegal in the US is because of a very
strong tobacco lobby. At the Bretton Woods ski area, smoking is not allowed inside the lodge. At the Whales Tale Water Park (in the summer) smoking is only allowed in a designated area that is far removed from the water attractions and not allowed in any buildings. ---MIKE--- In the White Mountains of New Hampshire (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
Marina wrote:
wrote: For our friends in all the other countries -- what is the attitude toward smoking there? Do many people still smoke? Is it banned in restaurants, public buildings, hotels and such? Thanks for the info.--I was just curious. In Finland, smoking is banned in public buildings, public transport and workplaces. Bars and restaurants have to have smoking and non-smoking areas, and there are pretty detailed rules on how to arrange the non-smoking area so that it is truly smoke-free. Parliament is preparing a complete ban on smoking in bars and restaurants. I would also ban it within 100 metres of the entrance and anywhere that children are present. -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-20, penned:
Another aspect that I find peculiar are the employers who forbid employees to smoke, period. Even away from work. I mean, what's next? Forbidding employees to eat Krispy Kremes? That's not healthy either, no? I'm not familiar with any such companies, but I do know that most people who smoke stink. Literally. Yes, it gets in their clothes and on their breath, but a prolonged smoker's body actually stinks of it. Yechh. That could be a presentation issue for some jobs. I've yet to meet someone who stank of Krispy Kreme. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-20, penned:
For our friends in all the other countries -- what is the attitude toward smoking there? Do many people still smoke? Is it banned in restaurants, public buildings, hotels and such? Thanks for the info.--I was just curious. When I was in Germany a couple of years ago, I was really grossed out by people lighting up in restaurants. Granted, I am spoiled here in Boulder, where smoking is banned in public facilities ... I love being able to go to an indoor concert and not stink of smoke when I come out. I love going to a restaurant and not worrying that someone will light up (and sorry, but I've never been in a non-smoking section that helped much when there were people smoking elsewhere -- it would have to be an entirely separate room with closed doors!). But I think it was about the same in Germany as in places in the US where smoking isn't banned. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-20, ---MIKE--- penned:
Chak wrote- Those who smoke out of doors are hurting only themselves, and so far, that's still their right. Not exactly. Smoking raises health care costs. This raises insurance rates and impacts medicare. Everybody is affected. Yeah, but so does exposure to the sun, participating in contact sports, riding a motorcycle ... eating greasy food ... not exercising enough ... I agree that smoking is a risk factor, but I worry about where that line of thinking would lead. -- monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca |
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