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Old June 27th 08, 12:05 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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There is not much improvement. She eats a tablespoon of roast chicken per
day, that is all, so gets frailer and frailer. She will not entertain any
other food.
I am not happy that the vet has not addressed her diarrhoea problems since
she was kidnapped, she had perfect poo until then, it's obvious to me that
if her bowels keep contracting she will not want to eat.
I have to clean up and scrub my carpets every day, I do not mind that she is
taken short before she can get to the litter box. I expect it.
She is bright, so bright and cheerful that I really do think I can keep her
going for a bit longer. I'd like her to have one more summer, but the
summer I wanted for her was outside, basking, and now I am too afraid to let
her out -(
I need to think.



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Old June 27th 08, 12:37 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
There is not much improvement. She eats a tablespoon of roast chicken per
day, that is all, so gets frailer and frailer. She will not entertain any
other food.
I am not happy that the vet has not addressed her diarrhoea problems since
she was kidnapped, she had perfect poo until then, it's obvious to me that
if her bowels keep contracting she will not want to eat.
I have to clean up and scrub my carpets every day, I do not mind that she
is taken short before she can get to the litter box. I expect it.
She is bright, so bright and cheerful that I really do think I can keep
her going for a bit longer. I'd like her to have one more summer, but the
summer I wanted for her was outside, basking, and now I am too afraid to
let her out -(
I need to think.


((((((((Christina)))))))))

Joy


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Old June 27th 08, 12:40 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
There is not much improvement. She eats a tablespoon of roast chicken per
day, that is all, so gets frailer and frailer. She will not entertain any
other food.
I am not happy that the vet has not addressed her diarrhoea problems since
she was kidnapped, she had perfect poo until then, it's obvious to me that
if her bowels keep contracting she will not want to eat.
I have to clean up and scrub my carpets every day, I do not mind that she
is taken short before she can get to the litter box. I expect it.
She is bright, so bright and cheerful that I really do think I can keep
her going for a bit longer. I'd like her to have one more summer, but the
summer I wanted for her was outside, basking, and now I am too afraid to
let her out -(
I need to think.




Years ago, I had a cat that had CRF and liver disease. She had a continual
problem with diarrhea -- and that, of course, can quickly lead to
dehydration. My vet suggested that I try Immodium AD (pills). I had to
*carefully* shave them down to make a pill about the size of a BB. That was
not an easy task since they are small to begin with, but I eventually got
good enough at it that I could make 3 or 4 kitty pills out of one Immodium,
and that treatment helped *immensely.* Also, is KFC getting any fluids
(Ringer's lactate)? If not, I think that would be in order. Your vet can
do it, but you can also learn to administer it at home (which is much
cheaper and would relieve KFC of the stress of making constant visits to the
vet). I apologize for not knowing, but I haven't read all of your messages.

MaryL

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Old June 27th 08, 01:15 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote

| Years ago, I had a cat that had CRF and liver disease. She had a
continual
| problem with diarrhea -- and that, of course, can quickly lead to
| dehydration. My vet suggested that I try Immodium AD (pills). I had to
| *carefully* shave them down to make a pill about the size of a BB.

Immodium for the short term, and most vets have a paste they can give you
which has cat-specific probiotics in it, to help balance the intestinal
flora and cure the runs naturally.


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Old June 27th 08, 01:30 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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MaryL -out-the-litter wrote:

"Christina Websell" wrote in message


Also, is KFC getting any fluids
(Ringer's lactate)? If not, I think that would be in order. Your vet can
do it, but you can also learn to administer it at home (which is much
cheaper and would relieve KFC of the stress of making constant visits to the
vet). I apologize for not knowing, but I haven't read all of your messages.


I think the vet said not to give fluids. For some reason, it's not easily
available in the UK, for pet owners to bring home and administer themselves.
I think I remember Adrian saying it was illegal. I don't understand why.

It's readily available in the US, and while not dirt cheap, I don't think
it's overly expensive either. And it's saved many a kitty's life.

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Old June 27th 08, 02:32 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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MaryL -out-the-litter wrote:

"Christina Websell" wrote in
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Also, is KFC getting any fluids
(Ringer's lactate)? If not, I think that would be in order. Your
vet can do it, but you can also learn to administer it at home
(which is much cheaper and would relieve KFC of the stress of making
constant visits to the vet). I apologize for not knowing, but I
haven't read all of your messages.


I think the vet said not to give fluids. For some reason, it's not
easily available in the UK, for pet owners to bring home and
administer themselves. I think I remember Adrian saying it was
illegal. I don't understand why.

It's readily available in the US, and while not dirt cheap, I don't
think it's overly expensive either. And it's saved many a kitty's
life.


We cannot adminster fluids ourselves here. One go at them cost me nearly
$500 at the vets and quite rightly he is advising me against doing it again
to get a few weeks.
To be honest, even if it was legal to do it here I would need a team of 3 or
4 which I haven't.
Kitty is getting palliative care, until it gets too much.
It does not help me to suggest "we can do this in America"
I feel bad enough that I can't do any more.

Tweed






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Old June 27th 08, 03:05 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
MaryL
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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wrote:
MaryL -out-the-litter wrote:

"Christina Websell" wrote in
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Also, is KFC getting any fluids
(Ringer's lactate)? If not, I think that would be in order. Your
vet can do it, but you can also learn to administer it at home
(which is much cheaper and would relieve KFC of the stress of making
constant visits to the vet). I apologize for not knowing, but I
haven't read all of your messages.


I think the vet said not to give fluids. For some reason, it's not
easily available in the UK, for pet owners to bring home and
administer themselves. I think I remember Adrian saying it was
illegal. I don't understand why.

It's readily available in the US, and while not dirt cheap, I don't
think it's overly expensive either. And it's saved many a kitty's
life.


We cannot adminster fluids ourselves here. One go at them cost me nearly
$500 at the vets and quite rightly he is advising me against doing it
again to get a few weeks.
To be honest, even if it was legal to do it here I would need a team of 3
or 4 which I haven't.
Kitty is getting palliative care, until it gets too much.
It does not help me to suggest "we can do this in America"
I feel bad enough that I can't do any more.

Tweed


Of course, you feel bad. I would be devastated. I don't understand what
the reasoning is behind having Ringer's readily available here but not in
Britain, and neither of us can do anything about that. However, I didn't
know that you would not have access to it. I was basing my suggestion on
the fact that I had to administer Ringer's myself some years ago. You
really do have my utmost sympathy. I have been through the process of going
back to a vet time and again, knowing that the end was near, and it is an
incredibly painful experience. (Of course, you may have meant to address
this to another author since I was not the one who commended on it being
readily available. Somehow, my message became mingled with someone else's.)

That said, may I ask one final question (with suggestion)? That is, do you
have Pedialite readily available in Britain? If so, do you think you could
get KFC to take a little of that? I realize that you indicated that it is
very difficult to medicate KFC, but Pedialite can be very helpful for
electrolyte imbalance. It is sometimes administered by using a syringe (no
needle, of course) and squirting it into the corner of the cat's mouth.

MaryL

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Old June 29th 08, 12:47 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
. ..

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
wrote:
MaryL -out-the-litter wrote:

"Christina Websell" wrote in
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else's.)

That said, may I ask one final question (with suggestion)? That is, do you
have Pedialite readily available in Britain? If so, do you think you
could get KFC to take a little of that? I realize that you indicated that
it is very difficult to medicate KFC, but Pedialite can be very helpful
for electrolyte imbalance. It is sometimes administered by using a
syringe (no needle, of course) and squirting it into the corner of the
cat's mouth.


I have made up a rehydration fluid for her. I once read about about it, I
can't remember where but ISTM it was used for African babies who were
terribly dehydrated through diarrhoea. I wrote it down in "my book of
useful things" not expecting to use that knowledge.
Here it is:
2 tablespoons sugar
quarter teaspoon salt
quarter teaspoon bicarbonate of soda
in a litre of boiled water

I put it in her water bowl, but I also put another bowl of ordinary water by
the side of it, in case she wouldn't drink it.
She has chosen to drink the rehydration fluid against the plain water. I'm
glad about that as trying to squirt it into her mouth through a syringe
would be well nigh impossible. Even my vet agrees that she is "difficult to
medicate" Read "not in your wildest dreams unless you have a team of 4"
She continues to improve. I've bought another chicken for her, if that's
what she wants to eat she can have it.

Tweed













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Old June 27th 08, 05:53 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On Jun 26, 8:32*pm, "Christina Websell"
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wrote:
MaryL -out-the-litter wrote:


"Christina Websell" wrote in
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We cannot adminster fluids ourselves here.


I responded to you in another post and gave you the http://www.felinecrf.org
site. If you click on the link, scroll down to the bottom and join the
list. From the contact page:
"if you want information about a UK vet who might be able to work with
you and allow you to give your cat sub-Qs if appropriate, please join
the Feline CRF Information List. There are a number of British
listmembers who may be able to give you a personal recommendation. In
your first post, please state where you are located (your nearest
large town or county) and that you are looking for a vet. I read all
the list posts, and if I know of a vet in your area, I will contact
you privately with details"

Hope this helps.*
 




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