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Janet B wrote: On 17 Feb 2005 13:19:43 -0800, "-L." wrote: Childless means you don't have any whether or not you ever want any. Surely you aren't implying that ChildFREE is pro-choice and ChildLESS is pro-life (or more to the point, ANTI-choice)? -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com As Queen would say, "NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO!" I mean exactly what I wrote. To be "childless" means you have no children - regardless of whether or not you ever want any; anyone without a child is childless. This differs from the term "childfree", which connotates one who has no children and never wants any. Neither term has anything to do with one's stance on the choice issue. I merely stated that many (if not most) childfree people are pro-choice. Is that any more clear? -L. |
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ... On Thu 17 Feb 2005 08:43:15p, Phil P. wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav link.net): "Cheryl" wrote in message ... See? No censorship - just a suggestion. Phil Yeah, but Phil, these days this group is filled with clutter and debates and socializing banter. It's turned into a free-for-all. I don't see the point in singling out one poster with that remark. That's ok, I don't mind. Phil Oh, and Phil? You are very knowledgable about feline issues. You were partly what got me through Shadow's illness and I'm sure you didn't approve that I had to put him down and that's ok. You didn't live with him. I'm well aware of the fact that the cat's quality life is more important than mere survival. I don't recall flaming you for ending his suffering, and I *very* seriously doubt I did. I'm sad that you probably will never help me with cat problems ever again. But this being Usenet, if I need help and have a stumped vet again, I'll be sure to use a phony nym and an alternate provider to ask because I'd still want to read your thoughts about it. I don't know why you feel that way - perhaps you would hurt the cat to spite the owner but I surely wouldn't. I have never and will never let my personal feelings towards an indivudual interfere with trying to help their cat if I could. You're not the first basically nice person I've seen Usenet turn into an asshole. So I won't hold it against you if you ever have another problem with a cat and need an opinion or some help or support. Good luck. Phil |
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"-L." wrote in message ups.com... Cheryl wrote: Oh, and Phil? You are very knowledgable about feline issues. You were partly what got me through Shadow's illness and I'm sure you didn't approve that I had to put him down and that's ok. You didn't live with him. I'm sad that you probably will never help me with cat problems ever again. But this being Usenet, if I need help and have a stumped vet again, I'll be sure to use a phony nym and an alternate provider to ask because I'd still want to read your thoughts about it. -- Cheryl Good God, Cheryl - this post almost made me cry. There is no way *anyone* could rightly say you didn't do enough for Shadow. You treated him with more love, kindness and compassion than most people ever would dream of doing. He fought a fierce battle, and you were right there beside him. Don't *ever* let anyone tell you otherwise. I seriously doubt I would have flamed her after all she did - She certainly went the distance - and then some. I dunno why she thinks I didn't approve, maybe its because I think a lot of people euthanize their cats when there's still a chance for a comeback. That certainly wasn't the case in her situation. I did, however, have a major problem with her vet and didn't understand her sad devotion to such an incompetent and bungling vet. But I'm sure I never flamed her or dissaproved of her ending Shadow's suffering. Phil |
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There is always a time when it is necessary. I wish it was an option for humans in cases where there is no hope and only suffering and waiting. when I had Fugazi PTS there was a trainee vet in there who said "It's the one thing we can do for them that we can't do for us" I agree Lesley Slave to the Fabulous Furballs |
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They're running me ragged as usual. The depredations of Sammy are chronicled at http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/Sammy.asp - but these are anecdotes so might not be welcome here! ; I looked at the site- Sammy is adorable beyond belief and the anecdotes had me in fits of hysterical laughter! (As well as making me remember when my two 21 months old kitties were kitties- mind you! I suspect they still are) Lesley Slave to the Fabulous Furballs |
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On 18 Feb 2005 00:15:41 -0800, "-L." wrote:
Is that any more clear? Yes - thank you! ;-D -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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... I've seen people in rpca disagree with one another - even do so vehemently. The fact that they can do so without rancor, vileness, or profanity is a testament to their intelligence, sophistication, tolerance, and forebearance. You need to take off your rose colored glasses and quit lying. Some of the folks at RPCA are quite capable of being nasty, intolerant and vicious and have done so many times. What's more despicable is that they can't be honest about it. Megan. Granted, I haven't been posting there that long - only since about June or July of 2004 (although I was one of the original posters on rpc before the split). However, since that time I haven't seen anyone being nasty, intolerant and vicious (although I can't say I've read every single post since I came back), can you give an example that I may have missed? Hugs, CatNipped "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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: However, if the treatment is pricey, and the prognosis is crummy, then IMO : euthanasia makes more sense. Not solely based on the financial aspect of the : deal, but why put a pet through more trauma, only to have a lousy outcome : anyway? A lot of factors need to be taken into account, to come up w/ the : big-time treatment Vs. euthanasia decision. : : Cathy : : thank you cathy |
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"Mary" wrote in message
news:1108696084.4679bcd0f1e974b18392e61c365750ed@t eranews... Lucky you, lucky her! It would be so different to have a big cat. I've always had petite girl cats. If I get to adopt any more, I think I want a great big Maine Coon-ish male, or a lovely Orange male. And I really want a Siamese-looking cat, too. I like big cats too, but I also like small ones, and medium sized one, and black ones, and white ones, and stripey ones, and tortoiseshell one, and Siamese, and.... well, you get my drift! ; Mine range from Sammy (someone on rpca dubbed her Samazon) at 15+ pounds, Bandit, 9 pounds (which I *used* to think was big), who looks like Sammy, to sveldt little Demi, 6 pounds (gorgeous, all white, long, long hair, magnificent ruff), to Jessie, 4 pounds (short hair tortoiseshell). You can see them all at http://www.gcmensa.org/Sammy2/. By the way, I love Houston! I have a friend there and fly out every now and then just to visit. I love the ethnic diversity there--and might even live there, but I need the distinct seasons. I like big cities along with big cats, but *man* does it get hot here - you *don't* want to be here in August! I'd prefer Denver, CO, but DH doesn't like snow or cold. Hugs, CatNipped |
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