OT, birth control

Sorry for yet another OT post, but a while back we were discussing the
symptoms of birth control pills and I just found this lovely bit of info:

http://www.uistudenthealth.com/quest...ult.asp?ID=490

It's possible that the various symptoms I'm experiencing (pretty much
everything you'd associate with PMS, only all month) are actually related to
getting off of Depo, not getting on my pill.

Unfortunately, this means it will be quite a while till I figure out what's
causing my body to go all haywire.

Anyway, I thought others who either might use birth control or whose partners
might use birth control would find this interesting. I had no idea =/

ObCat: I tried to feed Oscar some salmon tonight, but she was totally
uninterested. I guess it wasn't stinky enough.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

On 2005-03-07, Cheryl Perkins penned:

There is the possibility of side effects to almost anything you take. I've
heard of a quite nasty depression clearing up when birth control pills were
discontinued. It's always worthwhile being informed about possible side
effects of something you are taking routinely, even when it's something that
many or most people can take without problems.

Yes, but I've done my research about side effects to depo and the pill.
The news to me was that depo can cause side effects *when you get off of it*,
not just when you start taking it.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 23:19:33 -0700, "Monique Y. Mudama"
yodeled:

Sorry for yet another OT post, but a while back we were discussing the
symptoms of birth control pills and I just found this lovely bit of info:

http://www.uistudenthealth.com/quest...ult.asp?ID=490

It's possible that the various symptoms I'm experiencing (pretty much
everything you'd associate with PMS, only all month) are actually related to
getting off of Depo, not getting on my pill.

Unfortunately, this means it will be quite a while till I figure out what's
causing my body to go all haywire.

Anyway, I thought others who either might use birth control or whose partners
might use birth control would find this interesting. I had no idea =/

ObCat: I tried to feed Oscar some salmon tonight, but she was totally
uninterested. I guess it wasn't stinky

mrrrp ????
Love, Stinky

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
...
On 2005-03-07, Cheryl Perkins penned:

There is the possibility of side effects to almost anything you take.
I've
heard of a quite nasty depression clearing up when birth control pills
were
discontinued. It's always worthwhile being informed about possible side
effects of something you are taking routinely, even when it's something
that
many or most people can take without problems.

Yes, but I've done my research about side effects to depo and the pill.
The news to me was that depo can cause side effects *when you get off of
it*,
not just when you start taking it.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

I think that as much trouble as you are having, I would ask for a baseline
hormone test to start with and see what they find. Maybe even bloodwork for
thyroid and diabetes. No kidding, all that blood chemistry affects each
other. And sometimes, what we are eating even affects our hormones. I guess
I wonder if you don't kind of need to start at the bottom getting off
everything, see where you start out, and go from there.

On 2005-03-07, Karen penned:

I think that as much trouble as you are having, I would ask for a baseline
hormone test to start with and see what they find. Maybe even bloodwork for
thyroid and diabetes. No kidding, all that blood chemistry affects each
other. And sometimes, what we are eating even affects our hormones. I guess
I wonder if you don't kind of need to start at the bottom getting off
everything, see where you start out, and go from there.

Not a bad idea. I've had a recent thyroid exam, with completely normal
results, and I've talked to my doctor about diabetes recently too; I don't
remember what the tests were, but none of that, either. I'm not sure what a
baseline hormone test is, exactly, but since depo will take months to a year
to get out of my system, I'm not sure exactly what it would tell me.

To get into the yucky details, the only symptom I'm definitely having right
now that really bothers me is extremely tender breasts. The undersides feel
like they've been bruised, and everything up front is extremely
touch-sensitive (in a bad way!) as well. Fortunately, though, it doesn't
bother me when I'm working out; maybe my mind's just not on it then.

Anyway, I just thought it was rather interesting that depo is known to cause
side effects when you *stop* taking it. I'd never heard that before.


--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2005-03-07, Karen penned:

I think that as much trouble as you are having, I would ask for a
baseline
hormone test to start with and see what they find. Maybe even bloodwork
for
thyroid and diabetes. No kidding, all that blood chemistry affects each
other. And sometimes, what we are eating even affects our hormones. I
guess
I wonder if you don't kind of need to start at the bottom getting off
everything, see where you start out, and go from there.

Not a bad idea. I've had a recent thyroid exam, with completely normal
results, and I've talked to my doctor about diabetes recently too; I don't
remember what the tests were, but none of that, either. I'm not sure what
a
baseline hormone test is, exactly, but since depo will take months to a
year
to get out of my system, I'm not sure exactly what it would tell me.

To get into the yucky details, the only symptom I'm definitely having
right
now that really bothers me is extremely tender breasts. The undersides
feel
like they've been bruised, and everything up front is extremely
touch-sensitive (in a bad way!) as well. Fortunately, though, it doesn't
bother me when I'm working out; maybe my mind's just not on it then.

Anyway, I just thought it was rather interesting that depo is known to
cause
side effects when you *stop* taking it. I'd never heard that before.

Do you have cysts? Also, there really is such a thing as cyclic and
non-cyclic breast pain (see
http://imaginis.com/breasthealth/breast_pain.asp) and they don't really
know what causes it and they don't know what makes it better or worst. Mine
is caused by cysts. I had very tender breasts for over a year. So bad I had
to wear bras to bed and nothing helped. THen poof it went away.

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
...
Sorry for yet another OT post, but a while back we were discussing the
symptoms of birth control pills and I just found this lovely bit of info:

http://www.uistudenthealth.com/quest...ult.asp?ID=490

It's possible that the various symptoms I'm experiencing (pretty much
everything you'd associate with PMS, only all month) are actually related
to
getting off of Depo, not getting on my pill.

Unfortunately, this means it will be quite a while till I figure out
what's
causing my body to go all haywire.

Anyway, I thought others who either might use birth control or whose
partners
might use birth control would find this interesting. I had no idea =/

Having a barekitten generally fixes those sort of problems.

Bwahahahaha.

Seriously though, yes, I know what its like to come off depo - my cycle
didn't return for over a year, which is why it took 18 months for the Yowlet
to be conceived (after 12 months of trying, we were considered infertile).

After a few months of regular hormone cycles, you *should* feel OK again. If
not, go back to your doctor and/or obgyn


Yowie

On 2005-03-07, Karen penned:

Do you have cysts? Also, there really is such a thing as cyclic and
non-cyclic breast pain (see
http://imaginis.com/breasthealth/breast_pain.asp) and they don't really
know what causes it and they don't know what makes it better or worst. Mine
is caused by cysts. I had very tender breasts for over a year. So bad I had
to wear bras to bed and nothing helped. THen poof it went away.


No cysts that I know of. I really do think this is related to either the depo
or the pill, as it started exactly when I switched from one to the other.
Because breast tenderness is a known side effect of both, particularly in the
first few months, I'm not concerned yet.

I can't imagine being in as much discomfort as you're describing. That
must have been awful =/ Mine are only painful to the touch; oddly
enough, I can do just about anything without pain, including my martial
arts classes, which are very bouncy. (I do wear a sports bra.)

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message


ObCat: I tried to feed Oscar some salmon tonight, but she was totally
uninterested. I guess it wasn't stinky enough.///

Try Fresh cooked Coley. Things have got so bad in my house with the
coley, that every time I go to the supermarkets Pandora EXPECTS that I
pick her up some fresh coley.

Forget Pavlovs dog with the bell. I have a cat conditioned to a
microwave ping!

Helen M


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On 2005-03-07, Yowie penned:
"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
...

It's possible that the various symptoms I'm experiencing (pretty much
everything you'd associate with PMS, only all month) are actually
related to getting off of Depo, not getting on my pill.

Having a barekitten generally fixes those sort of problems.

Bah! That seems like a temporary fix at best, and anyway, you can't fool me!
Nursing *can't* be all roses and cherries and whatnot! I figure you get two
options while you're still nursing: they hurt because they're full or they
hurt because the little one is sucking on 'em. I doubt babies are any gentler
than certain partners ....

Bwahahahaha.

Seriously though, yes, I know what its like to come off depo - my cycle
didn't return for over a year, which is why it took 18 months for the Yowlet
to be conceived (after 12 months of trying, we were considered infertile).

I just wish I'd known. I'd never heard of this. My doctor and I had a long
talk before deciding to switch me to the Pill, and while side effects of both
came up, she never mentioned that I could experience "withdrawal side
effects"!

I wonder what the polite way is to send a note to your doctor that, hey, this
and that happened and you may want to warn other patients about this. I did
it by phone when I had to page my orthopedic surgeon because he didn't warn me
that his steroid shot had a chance of hurting like a b*tch, and I was way more
polite than maybe I should have been! In comparison, though, this is fairly
minor.

Yowie, did you notice any weight changes while on or off of depo? My excess
baggage is in all likelihood my own fault, but I'm wondering if I can blame
some of it on the depo, and if so, in what timeframe I might notice a
difference. I suspect that if I do lose weight from coming off of depo,
though, it will be so gradual I won't really know if it's the meds or not.

(Of course, after my chiro appt, I went next door and got an au lait ... and
there were these chocolate chip cookies fresh out of the oven on a cooling
rack and I just *had* to have one ... yeah, I'm pretty sure the excess baggage
is my own damn fault.)

After a few months of regular hormone cycles, you *should* feel OK again. If
not, go back to your doctor and/or obgyn

*nod* that's the plan. I never had a period while I was on depo; when I
started the pill this time, I was quite surprised to get my period the very
first "placebo" week. Surprised and saddened at the end of an era, although
I'd imagine being on the pill with no period would freak me out, oh, about
once a month.

For most of the time I was on Depo, I pretty much assumed it was just like the
pill. Now that I'm actually doing the research, I'm realizing they're quite
different. Just goes to show, even if you did your research on a condition or
medication when it started, it's probably a good idea to look around every few
years to see if anything new has been published.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca