Hold off the candles for KFC

Candles held in abeyance for when KFC needs them. Way to go, both of you!

Sam, supervised by Mistletoe

wrote

| I hope this isn't one of those things you can get in the US but not
| in the UK. If it is, I would be willing to send some to you.

If it's not on store shelves in the UK, then it is probably "illegal" and
would not get through customs.

On Oct 7, 10:23�pm, "Pat" wrote:
wrote

| I hope this isn't one of those things you can get in the US but not
| in the UK. If it is, I would be willing to send some to you.

If it's not on store shelves in the UK, then it is probably "illegal" and
would not get through customs.

I doubt it's illegal per se; but it might well be something that is
sold by prescribing
vets only.

Sherry

Sherry wrote in
:

On Oct 7, 10:23�pm, "Pat" wrote:
wrote

| I hope this isn't one of those things you can get in the US but not
| in the UK. If it is, I would be willing to send some to you.

If it's not on store shelves in the UK, then it is probably "illegal"
and would not get through customs.

I doubt it's illegal per se; but it might well be something that is
sold by prescribing
vets only.

Sherry



Not illegal (or cheap):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Taurine-60-C...H3GQ/ref=sr_1_
2?ie=UTF8&s=sports&qid=1223439498&sr=8-2

or

http://tinyurl.com/4g3347

"Christina Websell" wrote in
message
Thanks for the purrs. She is much better today, has hardly sneezed
at all. I was at home with her all day today so I know that for sure.
Not only that, she ate a few tablespoons of "cat food" last night and
some this morning. I've been longing to get her back on to cat food
as her exclusively roast chicken diet isn't good for her, but what
can you do if she won't eat anything else? I'm just glad she eats
anything (the vet says the same.)
I was in Tesco yesterday and I saw in the cat food section a small
foil tray (new for them) called Nature that is 60% turkey so I bought
one to try for her. I lurk in the cat aisles of every shop, hoping
to find something that will tempt her. I thought I would give it a
go. Well, she liked it last night so much that she could hardly breathe
while she was eating it, she was gulping it down. This morning it
wasn't quite so much the favourite. She ate some and left a lot. Tonight
she ate every piece of the smaller than usual portion of
roast chicken. When humans are ill and off their food the worst thing to
do is to
present them with a big meal and expect them to eat it, it puts them
off. A small tempting meal is the way to go. I've found the same
thing with with CRF dogs and now Kitty.
Realistically, I am never going to be able to put a plate of cat food
in front of KFC twice a day and expect that she will eat it. She's
not going to, any more, but it worries me that she doesn't get
taurine from her solely chicken meat diet.
I forgot to mention that when I was at TED's. I suspect I know what
he would have said. "you have a cat that has exceeded her life
expectancy by many years that has CRF - keep her eating what she will
and forget about the taurine at this stage." In the same way I do
not have to worry about her teeth by giving her the rehydration fluid
that has a lot of sugar in, do you all know what I mean?

Yes, it makes perfect sense. Her life is measured in days and weeks rather
than years. Any disease that may develop over time is irrelevant to any time
you get with her *now*.

My grandfather was from solid working class stock. He was a fishmonger by
trade, got up before the crack of dawn 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year (He
got Sundays off, plus Christmas day and Easter Friday) to be down at the
docks to collect the catch of the day. He smoked the fish to his own secret
recipe (which, sadly, went with him), then opened his shop at 9am. Worked
the shop till 5pm, cleaned up, did the books, and came home at 7pm. Ate
dinner, and then demanded to be left to read his paper in solitude. Whilst
reading the daily news, he had one glass of port, and his pipe. Afte he
finished the paper, he went to bed to start it all over again. On Sundays,
after going to church, he did chores for the congregation, then came home to
do his chores around the house. When I knew him, those 'chores' included
entertaining his grandshildren whilst the women could natter. He'd stop at
7pm, have his meal, and once again, sit and have his paper, pipe and port.
Everyone knew to leave him be, it was the only time he ever asked for
himself, his only 'vices' he ever demanded.

He was forced to retire at 75 for health reasons. It was quickly clear that
the cancer was incurable, and he was forced into a nursing home. Why they
chose to deny an old and dying man the solace of his pipe, paper and port
just once a day is beyond me, but they did, because those were the rules. I
don't think I will ever forgive them for that. Its not like he'd bother
anyone, nor get drunk, or cause a ruckus. All he needed was a chair in which
to sit, and small table to put his port glass - and the daily paper (at the
time, it was about 30c) and he would have been as happy just to sit outside
and not be disturbed for the last half hour of his day, But thats not how
nursing homes operate, smoking is causes cancer, alcohol causes liver
damage, and papers not in the budget, so he was denied the one small
pleasure in his otherwise hard working and honest life.

So yes, I do know that it doens't really matter what health issues may or
may not come in a year's time from lack of taurine or whatever - because its
highly unlikely that such health issues will have time to develop or be the
most threatening if they do. What matters now is simply quality of life, and
if roast chicken is all that she wants, then bless her, and give her
whatever she needs to be happy and content for as long as she can be.

Yowie

Christina Websell wrote:

Powdered taurine? How do you get that, Andy?

Try here, scroll down.
http://www.good4you.co.uk/store.asp?...krlAodiXCV7 w
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

Christina Websell wrote:
Thanks for the purrs. She is much better today, has hardly sneezed
at all. I was at home with her all day today so I know that for sure.
Not only that, she ate a few tablespoons of "cat food" last night and
some this morning. I've been longing to get her back on to cat food
(snippety)
Well, she liked it last night so much that she could hardly breathe
while she was eating it, she was gulping it down.
I forgot to mention that when I was at TED's. I suspect I know what
he would have said. "you have a cat that has exceeded her life
expectancy by many years that has CRF - keep her eating what she will
and forget about the taurine at this stage." In the same way I do
not have to worry about her teeth by giving her the rehydration fluid
that has a lot of sugar in, do you all know what I mean?

Tweed

I'm so glad KFC is eating a little of the cat food! I know that makes you
feel better. I certainly understand what you mean about as long as she eats
and not worrying about her teeth. I dealt with the same thing with my 18
year old dog (Sampson, RB 1999). I was cooking his meals the last few
months of his life, too (basically chicken & rice or beef & rice). Sure his
(prescription) canned food would have been better for him but he wouldn't
eat it anymore.

Now I'm dealing with similar food issues with my elderly mother. She's
supposed to watch her cholesterol & sodium levels. But at this point in her
life if I can get her to eat a few small meals a day, regardless of what it
is, I'm happy. Sure, I'd rather she not eat eggs with cheese three times a
day. I'd *love* to get a little more variety in her diet, you know? I try
preparing different things, mostly without much success. At least I know
she'll eat eggs scrambled with cheese. What am I going to do, say "no"?

Jill

Christina Websell wrote:
Thanks for the purrs. She is much better today, has hardly sneezed at all.


Yay for KFC! She'll outlive all of us at this rate!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

--
Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the purrs. She is much better today, has hardly sneezed at
all. I was at home with her all day today so I know that for sure.
Not only that, she ate a few tablespoons of "cat food" last night and some
this morning. I've been longing to get her back on to cat food as her
exclusively roast chicken diet isn't good for her, but what can you do if
she won't eat anything else? I'm just glad she eats anything (the vet
says the same.)
I was in Tesco yesterday and I saw in the cat food section a small foil
tray (new for them) called Nature that is 60% turkey so I bought one to
try for her. I lurk in the cat aisles of every shop, hoping to find
something that will tempt her. I thought I would give it a go.
Well, she liked it last night so much that she could hardly breathe while
she was eating it, she was gulping it down. This morning it wasn't quite
so much the favourite. She ate some and left a lot. Tonight she ate every
piece of the smaller than usual portion of roast chicken.
When humans are ill and off their food the worst thing to do is to present
them with a big meal and expect them to eat it, it puts them off. A small
tempting meal is the way to go. I've found the same thing with with CRF
dogs and now Kitty.
Realistically, I am never going to be able to put a plate of cat food in
front of KFC twice a day and expect that she will eat it. She's not going
to, any more, but it worries me that she doesn't get taurine from her
solely chicken meat diet.
I forgot to mention that when I was at TED's. I suspect I know what he
would have said. "you have a cat that has exceeded her life expectancy by
many years that has CRF - keep her eating what she will and forget about
the taurine at this stage." In the same way I do not have to worry about
her teeth by giving her the rehydration fluid that has a lot of sugar in,
do you all know what I mean?

Tweed

The problems that come with lack of taurine take *years* to develop -
blindness is the main effect. So I think that's why the vet is not worried
about that as much as he's worried that she eat something. Chicken
certainly isn't bad for her - feral cats here in the US have been know to
kill and eat chickens when they can get access to them.

Purrs are continuing for KFC. There was a cat who lived to be 38,
http://www.cat-world.com.au/CatRecords.htm, so as long as she's in
reasonable health and happy, I hope KFC can be with us at least that long!

Hugs,

CatNipped

Glad the old girl is feeling better. Waffles says we always tend to
underestimate the more mature ladies ;-)