Houston Humane Society offering Valentine's Day special to "declaw cats"

I can answer that it is because most Americans and parts of the world still
sees animals as property.

Plus you would get the scumbags that would scream bloody murder that you
were taking away their rights and decisions if you made something illegal.

Slowly but surely it is coming change takes time force it down someone
throat and they rebel no matter if it is good for them or not.

"kilikini" wrote in message
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wrote:
we only offer declawing at the
time of spay and neuter surgery to eliminate unnecessary time under
anesthesia, and to deter people from declawing cats mindlessly
before considering alternatives.

I don't understand how offering declawing as part of a 2-in-1
procedure will deter people from having a cat declawed mindlessly. If
anything, it increases the mindlessness, "Oh, why not? Might as well,
since she's getting spayed anyway."

Joyce

I agree with you, Joyce. I think that would be an uneducated (if that's
even right to say) person's immediate decision - declaw, they're under
anesthesia anyway! In my opinion, why give someone an option? Why do
vets
still offer this punishment? It's cruel, it's wrong and it's harmful.

On the other hand, I wish, when Tyrone is on my lap, he wouldn't dig in so
much. :~) That kneading thing. Man does that hurt! I have scars on my
belly and legs from inflicted wounds. My clothes have holes in them, but
still, I'd NEVER declaw him. No way. He's destructive, he's brazen, he
destroys EVERYTHING, but declaw him, no. Not an option in this house.

kili
--
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

It's illegal in Australia and everyone still survives. And I doubt that
means increased dumping.

"Matthew" wrote in message
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I can answer that it is because most Americans and parts of the world still
sees animals as property.

Plus you would get the scumbags that would scream bloody murder that you
were taking away their rights and decisions if you made something illegal.

Slowly but surely it is coming change takes time force it down someone
throat and they rebel no matter if it is good for them or not.

"kilikini" wrote in message
...
wrote:
we only offer declawing at the
time of spay and neuter surgery to eliminate unnecessary time under
anesthesia, and to deter people from declawing cats mindlessly
before considering alternatives.

I don't understand how offering declawing as part of a 2-in-1
procedure will deter people from having a cat declawed mindlessly. If
anything, it increases the mindlessness, "Oh, why not? Might as well,
since she's getting spayed anyway."

Joyce

I agree with you, Joyce. I think that would be an uneducated (if that's
even right to say) person's immediate decision - declaw, they're under
anesthesia anyway! In my opinion, why give someone an option? Why do
vets
still offer this punishment? It's cruel, it's wrong and it's harmful.

On the other hand, I wish, when Tyrone is on my lap, he wouldn't dig in
so
much. :~) That kneading thing. Man does that hurt! I have scars on my
belly and legs from inflicted wounds. My clothes have holes in them, but
still, I'd NEVER declaw him. No way. He's destructive, he's brazen, he
destroys EVERYTHING, but declaw him, no. Not an option in this house.

kili
--
http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

"kilikini" wrote in message
...
wrote:
we only offer declawing at the
time of spay and neuter surgery to eliminate unnecessary time under
anesthesia, and to deter people from declawing cats mindlessly
before considering alternatives.

I don't understand how offering declawing as part of a 2-in-1
procedure will deter people from having a cat declawed mindlessly. If
anything, it increases the mindlessness, "Oh, why not? Might as well,
since she's getting spayed anyway."

Joyce

I agree with you, Joyce. I think that would be an uneducated (if that's
even right to say) person's immediate decision - declaw, they're under
anesthesia anyway! In my opinion, why give someone an option? Why do
vets
still offer this punishment? It's cruel, it's wrong and it's harmful.

On the other hand, I wish, when Tyrone is on my lap, he wouldn't dig in so
much. :~) That kneading thing. Man does that hurt! I have scars on my
belly and legs from inflicted wounds. My clothes have holes in them, but
still, I'd NEVER declaw him. No way. He's destructive, he's brazen, he
destroys EVERYTHING, but declaw him, no. Not an option in this house.

kili
--

I recommend wearing several thin layers of clothing rather than one thicker
one. Two or three t-shirts rather than a sweater, etc. It works kind of
like kevlar when the clawed ones get carried away.

Jo

meeee wrote:
It's illegal in Australia and everyone still survives. And I doubt
that means increased dumping.

Thankfully it's illegal in most countries outside the USA, I hope one day it
will be illegal there as well.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

On Feb 13, 2:21?pm, "Matthew" wrote:
I can answer that it is because most Americans and parts of the world still
sees animals as property.

Plus you would get the scumbags that would scream bloody murder that you
were taking away their rights and decisions if you made something illegal.

Slowly but surely it is coming change takes time force it down someone
throat and they rebel no matter if it is good for them or not.

Yeah, but it's not other parts of the world. We're about the only
country who declaws routinely for owner convenience. It's shameful.
I don't think it has much to do with "rights". It has to do with a
real failing on the part of American veterinarians to educate people.
After all, declaw is good revenue for them. A few don't declaw. But
they're the minority.

Sherry

"Sherry" wrote in message
ups.com...
Yeah, but it's not other parts of the world. We're about the only
country who declaws routinely for owner convenience. It's shameful.
I don't think it has much to do with "rights". It has to do with a
real failing on the part of American veterinarians to educate people.
After all, declaw is good revenue for them. A few don't declaw. But
they're the minority.

It's legal in Canada.

Susan M
Otis and Chester

On Feb 13, 5:12?pm, "Susan M" wrote:
"Sherry" wrote in message

ups.com...

Yeah, but it's not other parts of the world. We're about the only
country who declaws routinely for owner convenience. It's shameful.
I don't think it has much to do with "rights". It has to do with a
real failing on the part of American veterinarians to educate people.
After all, declaw is good revenue for them. A few don't declaw. But
they're the minority.

It's legal in Canada.

Susan M
Otis and Chester

Susan, it was my impression (from reading another group, I
think)...that Canadians don't routinely declaw so much as Americans.
That it was not nearly as prevalent there. Do you think that's true?

Sherry

"Sherry" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 13, 5:12?pm, "Susan M" wrote:
"Sherry" wrote in message

ups.com...

Yeah, but it's not other parts of the world. We're about the only
country who declaws routinely for owner convenience. It's shameful.
I don't think it has much to do with "rights". It has to do with a
real failing on the part of American veterinarians to educate people.
After all, declaw is good revenue for them. A few don't declaw. But
they're the minority.

It's legal in Canada.

Susan M
Otis and Chester

Susan, it was my impression (from reading another group, I
think)...that Canadians don't routinely declaw so much as Americans.
That it was not nearly as prevalent there. Do you think that's true?

Sherry


Does anyone know how prevalent it actually is in the US? For all I hear
about it, I really know of very few declawed cats.

Jo

"Adrian A" wrote in message
om...
meeee wrote:
It's illegal in Australia and everyone still survives. And I doubt
that means increased dumping.

Thankfully it's illegal in most countries outside the USA, I hope one day
it
will be illegal there as well.

Let's keep purring it is...

--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

"Marina" wrote in message
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Gandalf wrote:
Having worked for a vet I can tell you that neutering a male is VASTLY
easier and quicker than spaying a female.

That's what i was thinking would probably be the reason. They can do so
many more males than females. When Caliban was snipped, he spent a total
of two hours at the vet's.

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Yes, it's easier and much quicker to neuter males than to spay females.
Moreover, one male can impregnate many females -- so, it is fairly common
for humane organizations to offer this service only for males. They want to
take care of as many as possible and quickly (but safely) as possible.

MaryL