This is not acceptable

PawsForThought wrote:

From: "Karen M."


For anyone that feels strongly against declawing, please call or email
Best Friends Animal Sanctuary and let them know this kind of advice from
their vet has no place on their website, and it's not the first time:


http://www.bestfriends.org/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=12735&sessionID={A8AD

8878-F6C3-4667-9495-077392051ECD}

Phone: (435) 644-2001
Fax: (435) 644-2078
e-mail:


I joined that site so I could reply to the idiot vet there, and I will be
emailing as well. Gack!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope everyone will give that so-called
vet a word or two.

Lauren
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Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

Yeah, I've gotten "reprimanded" two or three times for arguing with Dr.
Dip**** so I don't post on there anymore. I just hate to see her posting
such utter nonsense and anyone who disagrees with her just gets
chastised or has their posts removed! It's ridiculous.

Karen Chuplis wrote:

in article , PawsForThought at
olitter wrote on 4/18/04 11:54 AM:


http://www.bestfriends.org/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=12735&sessionID={A8AD
8878-F6C3-4667-9495-077392051ECD}


I'm confused. This just seems to be a message board and not a vet article?

Karen

Let me also add that I don't think posting to the board is going to be
the best course of action, because a lot of times people who disagree
with her get their posts pulled but I think email, letters or calls
would hopefully get the people who run BFAS to rethink the free rein she
gets on there.

Karen Chuplis wrote:

in article , PawsForThought at
olitter wrote on 4/18/04 11:54 AM:


http://www.bestfriends.org/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=12735&sessionID={A8AD
8878-F6C3-4667-9495-077392051ECD}


I'm confused. This just seems to be a message board and not a vet article?

Karen

Let me also add that I don't think posting to the board is going to be
the best course of action, because a lot of times people who disagree
with her get their posts pulled but I think email, letters or calls
would hopefully get the people who run BFAS to rethink the free rein she
gets on there.

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:06:50 -0700, Karen M. wrote:

Let me also add that I don't think posting to the board is going to be
the best course of action, because a lot of times people who disagree
with her get their posts pulled but I think email, letters or calls
would hopefully get the people who run BFAS to rethink the free rein she
gets on there.

Not necessarily.

I saw what they were doing - Lauren there got her reprimand with a pointer
that she was a new user. So they pulled that card on her.

I hate to cast a cloud on this, but odds are incredibly good that any
phone calls or direct emails to these people will largely go ignored.
One, there is the new user factor, and two, there is the fact that this
is, after all, a doctor - albeit not one I would trust for medical advice,
to be perfectly frank.

The short of it is that the admins of this service, like any other
moderated service, can pretty much do whatever they want - and
unfortunately, unless it's illegal, no matter how wrong the information
is, this is something that they as the admins have the right to do.
There are no laws stating you cannot post bogus data on the 'net.
Further, the only thing arguing on this board is going to prove in this
case is that n parties are arguing. My suggestion thusly is to take the
high road and let them have the last word.

(OK, OK, I know, everyone wants to get the last word in - but last word
does not prove superiority.)

--
Dennis Carr - | I may be out of my mind,
http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way.
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:06:50 -0700, Karen M. wrote:

Let me also add that I don't think posting to the board is going to be
the best course of action, because a lot of times people who disagree
with her get their posts pulled but I think email, letters or calls
would hopefully get the people who run BFAS to rethink the free rein she
gets on there.

Not necessarily.

I saw what they were doing - Lauren there got her reprimand with a pointer
that she was a new user. So they pulled that card on her.

I hate to cast a cloud on this, but odds are incredibly good that any
phone calls or direct emails to these people will largely go ignored.
One, there is the new user factor, and two, there is the fact that this
is, after all, a doctor - albeit not one I would trust for medical advice,
to be perfectly frank.

The short of it is that the admins of this service, like any other
moderated service, can pretty much do whatever they want - and
unfortunately, unless it's illegal, no matter how wrong the information
is, this is something that they as the admins have the right to do.
There are no laws stating you cannot post bogus data on the 'net.
Further, the only thing arguing on this board is going to prove in this
case is that n parties are arguing. My suggestion thusly is to take the
high road and let them have the last word.

(OK, OK, I know, everyone wants to get the last word in - but last word
does not prove superiority.)

--
Dennis Carr - | I may be out of my mind,
http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way.
------------------------------------+-------------------------------

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:03:37 -0700, Karen M. wrote:

She also says
Friskies is better than say, Wellness or Innova, but that's a completely
different story there....0

So she's that one in the nine-out-of-ten statistics. Displeased to meet
her.

--
Dennis Carr - | I may be out of my mind,
http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way.
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:03:37 -0700, Karen M. wrote:

She also says
Friskies is better than say, Wellness or Innova, but that's a completely
different story there....0

So she's that one in the nine-out-of-ten statistics. Displeased to meet
her.

--
Dennis Carr - | I may be out of my mind,
http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way.
------------------------------------+-------------------------------

From: "Karen M."

Let me also add that I don't think posting to the board is going to be
the best course of action, because a lot of times people who disagree
with her get their posts pulled but I think email, letters or calls
would hopefully get the people who run BFAS to rethink the free rein she
gets on there.

I was surprised my posts didn't get pulled - thus far anyway. One of them
really defended that idiot vet saying how she volunteers her time, blah blah
blah. It seems the people there blindly follow this assh*le vet.
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Karen M."

Let me also add that I don't think posting to the board is going to be
the best course of action, because a lot of times people who disagree
with her get their posts pulled but I think email, letters or calls
would hopefully get the people who run BFAS to rethink the free rein she
gets on there.

I was surprised my posts didn't get pulled - thus far anyway. One of them
really defended that idiot vet saying how she volunteers her time, blah blah
blah. It seems the people there blindly follow this assh*le vet.
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: Dennis Carr

There are no laws stating you cannot post bogus data on the 'net.
Further, the only thing arguing on this board is going to prove in this
case is that n parties are arguing. My suggestion thusly is to take the
high road and let them have the last word.

I understand what you're saying, Dennis. But on the other hand, I feel that by
not saying anything, it only perpetuates the myths, misinformation and worst of
all, the cruelty of declawing.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm