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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:08 -0700, William Graham wrote:

"bookie" wrote in message

believe me, I have the opposite problem right now, but it has to be
said I do find fat people rather offensive to the eye and a massive
drain onthe NHS. An MP not so long ago suggested putting extra taxes on
'fatty' foods, mcdonalds etc in order to help pay for thr NHS services
that fat *******s use so much of, kind of inthe same way that
cigarettes are taxed in order to prop up our health service. don't
think it went through unfortunately, damn good idea though.


A "good idea" if you are a socialist, and want the government to take
responsibility for everything, and use the taxpayer's money to do it. I
would let people take care of their own health and eat as much as they
damn well please, and/or as much as they could afford to pay for. Why
should I either pay for their health, or use that as an excuse to
control their life style?

I think you are both missing an important point. From an economic
standpoint, the gov't would do well to encourage smoking and obesity
both. Smokers and fat people tend to die in their late 50s/early 60s...
right at the end of a long working life, but before they collect any
retirement benefits or require much gov't funded medical care.

If you want to know who is costing the taxpayers a bundle, it's the
little old grannies who eat like a bird and would never dream of using
tobacco... they live to be 95-100, soaking up medical resources and
usually spending the the last 5 years in a nursing home at gov't expense
after they have run through their assets.

So next time you see a slender gray-haired old lady, throw her under a
passing bus. And next time you see a fat chain-smoking pig, give that
person a pat on the back and thank them for their contribution to a
fiscally sound republic. Or kingdom, as the case may be.

Charlie

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:08 -0700, William Graham wrote:

"bookie" wrote in message

believe me, I have the opposite problem right now, but it has to be
said I do find fat people rather offensive to the eye and a massive
drain onthe NHS. An MP not so long ago suggested putting extra taxes on
'fatty' foods, mcdonalds etc in order to help pay for thr NHS services
that fat *******s use so much of, kind of inthe same way that
cigarettes are taxed in order to prop up our health service. don't
think it went through unfortunately, damn good idea though.


A "good idea" if you are a socialist, and want the government to take
responsibility for everything, and use the taxpayer's money to do it. I
would let people take care of their own health and eat as much as they
damn well please, and/or as much as they could afford to pay for. Why
should I either pay for their health, or use that as an excuse to
control their life style?

I think you are both missing an important point. From an economic
standpoint, the gov't would do well to encourage smoking and obesity
both. Smokers and fat people tend to die in their late 50s/early 60s...
right at the end of a long working life, but before they collect any
retirement benefits or require much gov't funded medical care.

If you want to know who is costing the taxpayers a bundle, it's the
little old grannies who eat like a bird and would never dream of using
tobacco... they live to be 95-100, soaking up medical resources and
usually spending the the last 5 years in a nursing home at gov't expense
after they have run through their assets.

So next time you see a slender gray-haired old lady, throw her under a
passing bus. And next time you see a fat chain-smoking pig, give that
person a pat on the back and thank them for their contribution to a
fiscally sound republic. Or kingdom, as the case may be.


Very nice, Charlie. I could not bring myself to snip.

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:08 -0700, William Graham wrote:

"bookie" wrote in message

believe me, I have the opposite problem right now, but it has to be
said I do find fat people rather offensive to the eye and a massive
drain onthe NHS. An MP not so long ago suggested putting extra taxes on
'fatty' foods, mcdonalds etc in order to help pay for thr NHS services
that fat *******s use so much of, kind of inthe same way that
cigarettes are taxed in order to prop up our health service. don't
think it went through unfortunately, damn good idea though.


A "good idea" if you are a socialist, and want the government to take
responsibility for everything, and use the taxpayer's money to do it. I
would let people take care of their own health and eat as much as they
damn well please, and/or as much as they could afford to pay for. Why
should I either pay for their health, or use that as an excuse to
control their life style?

I think you are both missing an important point. From an economic
standpoint, the gov't would do well to encourage smoking and obesity
both. Smokers and fat people tend to die in their late 50s/early 60s...
right at the end of a long working life, but before they collect any
retirement benefits or require much gov't funded medical care.

If you want to know who is costing the taxpayers a bundle, it's the
little old grannies who eat like a bird and would never dream of using
tobacco... they live to be 95-100, soaking up medical resources and
usually spending the the last 5 years in a nursing home at gov't expense
after they have run through their assets.

So next time you see a slender gray-haired old lady, throw her under a
passing bus. And next time you see a fat chain-smoking pig, give that
person a pat on the back and thank them for their contribution to a
fiscally sound republic. Or kingdom, as the case may be.

Charlie

LOL! - This is certainly true if the government is supporting them. In my
case, I saved and invested 10% of every dollar I ever earned, (in accordance
with my father's instructions) so I am fully capable of providing for
myself. (including my own health care) Unfortunately, my (ever increasing)
socialist government is busy stealing my money to give to the grasshoppers
who fiddled their whole lives while I toiled away.......My dad knew about
the Robin-Hooders, but I doubt if he could have ever envisioned how bad it
would really get......

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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Alison why do you sneer at the Guardian?

Charlie.

because they sneer at the Daily Mail readers! G

Alison

On 12 Mar 2007 10:39:27 -0700, "bookie"
wrote:

On 12 Mar, 16:38, "James" wrote:
On Mar 12, 10:52 am, "bookie" wrote:

On 12 Mar, 05:34, "William Graham" wrote:

It seems that the Brits are having the same couch potato problems that we
are here in the US:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...ietfitness.htm...

ha ha! i haven't read the article but the fact it is taken from the
daily mail says it all! pretty much everything printed in the daily
mail is well known to be absolute crap, find something from the
guardian or the Times and i may well read but i would not put my eyes
through the pain of reading anything from the daily mail, that paper
is not even good enough of lining my cats litter tray with, I would
rather read the Sun in prefernce to the daily Mail

My impression on fat is it depends on what part of the US you visit.
Some places everyone seems to be blubberbutts while other places
people are pretty normal. For a long time I thought cartoons of fat
people were just cartoons. Then I saw people that actually shaped
like cartoon fat people.

so which is the fattest part of the states? here it is staffordshire
and the north in general which harbours all the fatties, probably the
north west most of all,

My mother's side of the family all came from Virginia. Virtually every
male was dead by the age of 50 from good old southern cooking,
smoking, and lack of any exercise. According to her, they were a
pretty large bunch.

I suspect that it is a US wide (ha) problem however. Here in NYC there
are plenty of large folks, but there are also a huge number of thin
folks running up and down the steets. Exercise here (I bike a lot)
tends to cause you to deeply inhale pretty bad air. We die of couch
potato disease or lung disease.

"dgk" wrote in message
...
On 12 Mar 2007 10:39:27 -0700, "bookie"
wrote:

On 12 Mar, 16:38, "James" wrote:
On Mar 12, 10:52 am, "bookie" wrote:

On 12 Mar, 05:34, "William Graham" wrote:

It seems that the Brits are having the same couch potato problems
that we
are here in the US:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...ietfitness.htm...

ha ha! i haven't read the article but the fact it is taken from the
daily mail says it all! pretty much everything printed in the daily
mail is well known to be absolute crap, find something from the
guardian or the Times and i may well read but i would not put my eyes
through the pain of reading anything from the daily mail, that paper
is not even good enough of lining my cats litter tray with, I would
rather read the Sun in prefernce to the daily Mail

My impression on fat is it depends on what part of the US you visit.
Some places everyone seems to be blubberbutts while other places
people are pretty normal. For a long time I thought cartoons of fat
people were just cartoons. Then I saw people that actually shaped
like cartoon fat people.

so which is the fattest part of the states? here it is staffordshire
and the north in general which harbours all the fatties, probably the
north west most of all,

My mother's side of the family all came from Virginia. Virtually every
male was dead by the age of 50 from good old southern cooking,
smoking, and lack of any exercise. According to her, they were a
pretty large bunch.

I suspect that it is a US wide (ha) problem however. Here in NYC there
are plenty of large folks, but there are also a huge number of thin
folks running up and down the steets. Exercise here (I bike a lot)
tends to cause you to deeply inhale pretty bad air. We die of couch
potato disease or lung disease.

Yeah....When I was kid (the 40's) back in NYC, they said just living there
was like smoking two packs of cigs a day.....I remember that there was a
continuous fallout of soot in the air....30 minutes after my mom cleaned off
the windowsills, I could run my fingers along them and come up with a line
of black, greasy soot on them.
Since then, however, the smog controls on both automobiles and factories
have done a lot toward cleaning up the air, and it is much cleaner....(I
went back there for a visit during the early 90's)

On 14 Mar, 01:21, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:08 -0700, William Graham wrote:
"bookie" wrote in message

believe me, I have the opposite problem right now, but it has to be
said I do find fat people rather offensive to the eye and a massive
drain onthe NHS. An MP not so long ago suggested putting extra taxes on
'fatty' foods, mcdonalds etc in order to help pay for thr NHS services
that fat *******s use so much of, kind of inthe same way that
cigarettes are taxed in order to prop up our health service. don't
think it went through unfortunately, damn good idea though.

A "good idea" if you are a socialist, and want the government to take
responsibility for everything, and use the taxpayer's money to do it. I
would let people take care of their own health and eat as much as they
damn well please, and/or as much as they could afford to pay for. Why
should I either pay for their health, or use that as an excuse to
control their life style?

I think you are both missing an important point. From an economic
standpoint, the gov't would do well to encourage smoking and obesity
both. Smokers and fat people tend to die in their late 50s/early 60s...
right at the end of a long working life, but before they collect any
retirement benefits or require much gov't funded medical care.

If you want to know who is costing the taxpayers a bundle, it's the
little old grannies who eat like a bird and would never dream of using
tobacco... they live to be 95-100, soaking up medical resources and
usually spending the the last 5 years in a nursing home at gov't expense
after they have run through their assets.

So next time you see a slender gray-haired old lady, throw her under a
passing bus. And next time you see a fat chain-smoking pig, give that
person a pat on the back and thank them for their contribution to a
fiscally sound republic. Or kingdom, as the case may be.

Charlie- Hide quoted text -

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oh I support people who smoke wholeheartedly purely because they are
propping up my nhs, I have no problem with them as they more than pay
for what they use out of the health service

"bookie" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 14 Mar, 01:21, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:08 -0700, William Graham wrote:
"bookie" wrote in message

oh I support people who smoke wholeheartedly purely because they are
propping up my nhs, I have no problem with them as they more than pay
for what they use out of the health service

Isn't it sad to see people with cancer and Alzeimers (sp) in England being
denied certain drugs and while Tony Blair is spending millions on Iraq and
Afghanistan .
Alison

"Alison" wrote in message

Isn't it sad to see people with cancer and Alzeimers (sp) in England being
denied certain drugs and while Tony Blair is spending millions on Iraq and
Afghanistan .
Alison
Yes. But some might have the foresight to blame the terrorists, or radical
religious nuts for that rather than Bush or Tony Blair.
If we paid no attention to terrorism, and, at some later date, they took
over the world, the cancer and alzheimers patients would be killed for Allah
just like the rest of us.
You may think it's much ado about nothing, and if so, I respect that
decision. But just know that it isn't a given that we are doing the wrong
thing. There are those who believe we are spending the money in the right
place, in the long run.

On Mar 14, 12:12 pm, "William Graham" wrote:
"dgk" wrote in message

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On 12 Mar 2007 10:39:27 -0700, "bookie"
wrote:

On 12 Mar, 16:38, "James" wrote:
On Mar 12, 10:52 am, "bookie" wrote:

On 12 Mar, 05:34, "William Graham" wrote:

It seems that the Brits are having the same couch potato problems
that we
are here in the US:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...ietfitness.htm...

ha ha! i haven't read the article but the fact it is taken from the
daily mail says it all! pretty much everything printed in the daily
mail is well known to be absolute crap, find something from the
guardian or the Times and i may well read but i would not put my eyes
through the pain of reading anything from the daily mail, that paper
is not even good enough of lining my cats litter tray with, I would
rather read the Sun in prefernce to the daily Mail

My impression on fat is it depends on what part of the US you visit.
Some places everyone seems to be blubberbutts while other places
people are pretty normal. For a long time I thought cartoons of fat
people were just cartoons. Then I saw people that actually shaped
like cartoon fat people.

so which is the fattest part of the states? here it is staffordshire
and the north in general which harbours all the fatties, probably the
north west most of all,

My mother's side of the family all came from Virginia. Virtually every
male was dead by the age of 50 from good old southern cooking,
smoking, and lack of any exercise. According to her, they were a
pretty large bunch.

I suspect that it is a US wide (ha) problem however. Here in NYC there
are plenty of large folks, but there are also a huge number of thin
folks running up and down the steets. Exercise here (I bike a lot)
tends to cause you to deeply inhale pretty bad air. We die of couch
potato disease or lung disease.

Yeah....When I was kid (the 40's) back in NYC, they said just living there
was like smoking two packs of cigs a day.....I remember that there was a
continuous fallout of soot in the air....30 minutes after my mom cleaned off
the windowsills, I could run my fingers along them and come up with a line
of black, greasy soot on them.
Since then, however, the smog controls on both automobiles and factories
have done a lot toward cleaning up the air, and it is much cleaner....(I
went back there for a visit during the early 90's)- Hide quoted text -

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When I lived there I would walk 20 blocks just to save 15 cents. I
figured it would probably take 15 minutes to wait for a bus so that I
would get there just as fast and could buy candy with the 15 cents.
Remember Chunky? It costed a nickel which was a lot more than a a
plain chocolate bar.