declawing

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/11/03 9:11 PM:

Karen Chuplis wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Like Brandy can "cite" anything. snort

I don't know how you expect me to provide verifiable statistics for an
underground. I do know people around the world and on a lark asked
them to call and ask about declawing a cat. Just like most places,
there are laws on the books, but some people just don't follow them and
law enforcement doesn't find them important enough to enforce them.
Not one got a "no."

Well you must have *some* vague source.

Karen

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/11/03 9:13 PM:

Karen Chuplis wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

I'd lay you BIG odds that declawing is not done in those countries
either. Especially poor nations. Declawing is a "luxury" item just
as it is "unnecessary". You *really* think that Nigerians haul
their cats off to the vet for declawing? More fantasy.

Karen


I've never heard such an ugly American speak as you have.

Oh please. It's just a truth.

Karen

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/11/03 9:13 PM:

Karen Chuplis wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

I'd lay you BIG odds that declawing is not done in those countries
either. Especially poor nations. Declawing is a "luxury" item just
as it is "unnecessary". You *really* think that Nigerians haul
their cats off to the vet for declawing? More fantasy.

Karen


I've never heard such an ugly American speak as you have.

Oh please. It's just a truth.

Karen

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/11/03 9:14 PM:

bewtifulfreak wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Thank you, Karen, for saying what I was thinking but couldn't
quite put into words.

Ann


Two ugly Americans. Go ahead, offend a few more countries. You
obviously know nothing about the world you live in. Just your little
house, on your little street, with your little internet connection
enabling your little fixation.

As you sit in the middle of the richest country in the world. It's not ugly,
it's the truth. Other countries aren't as fortunate as we are to be able to
indulge selfish whims.

Karen

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/11/03 9:14 PM:

bewtifulfreak wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Thank you, Karen, for saying what I was thinking but couldn't
quite put into words.

Ann


Two ugly Americans. Go ahead, offend a few more countries. You
obviously know nothing about the world you live in. Just your little
house, on your little street, with your little internet connection
enabling your little fixation.

As you sit in the middle of the richest country in the world. It's not ugly,
it's the truth. Other countries aren't as fortunate as we are to be able to
indulge selfish whims.

Karen

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...

snip

I've no doubt many people from the nations you mentioned are lovely,
wonderful people, but that doesn't detract from the fact that declawing
is
cruel and unnecessary, which is what we were talking about before you
tried
to change the subject.

It's the Brandy Sidestep.

Yes, and she really works at it....first she tried changing her tack from
"There is nothing wrong with declawing," to "I just don't think it should be
illegal because then it won't be available to those who need it." Which is
a ridiculous argument for keeping it legal, because how often is it
medically necessary? Besides, as I pointed out, even the countries that
have banned it will allow it to be done legally when it is medically
necessary, so her little ploy didn't work there.

Now that she realizes that, she has simply resorted to blatent insults,
after wisely pointing out in an earlier post, "You'll never convince anyone
that way. Sure way to make people shut you out and not listen to your
argument. Yeah, name-calling ALWAYS influences people." Too bad she
doesn't take her own advice. It's just sad that when people realize they're
wrong, they don't have the integrity and good grace to simply admit it,
instead of stooping to distractionary tactics and outright aggression.

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...

snip

I've no doubt many people from the nations you mentioned are lovely,
wonderful people, but that doesn't detract from the fact that declawing
is
cruel and unnecessary, which is what we were talking about before you
tried
to change the subject.

It's the Brandy Sidestep.

Yes, and she really works at it....first she tried changing her tack from
"There is nothing wrong with declawing," to "I just don't think it should be
illegal because then it won't be available to those who need it." Which is
a ridiculous argument for keeping it legal, because how often is it
medically necessary? Besides, as I pointed out, even the countries that
have banned it will allow it to be done legally when it is medically
necessary, so her little ploy didn't work there.

Now that she realizes that, she has simply resorted to blatent insults,
after wisely pointing out in an earlier post, "You'll never convince anyone
that way. Sure way to make people shut you out and not listen to your
argument. Yeah, name-calling ALWAYS influences people." Too bad she
doesn't take her own advice. It's just sad that when people realize they're
wrong, they don't have the integrity and good grace to simply admit it,
instead of stooping to distractionary tactics and outright aggression.

Ann

--

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

in article , bewtifulfreak at
wrote on 8/11/03 9:29 PM:

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...
bewtifulfreak wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

So now you've realized you don't have a valid argument, you've
resorted to base insults? You sad, sad woman....

Ann


I'm not the one who edited off the list of United Nations members and
implied their ignorant and dirt poor.

I never said that. You are diverting from the real issue, which was
declawing, and trying to make this into a political argument, to distract
from the fact that you are losing the argument. And even implying some
countries are poorer than others is not making a comment on them as people;
some of the nicest people are those who aren't consumed with possesions.
I've no doubt many people from the nations you mentioned are lovely,
wonderful people, but that doesn't detract from the fact that declawing is
cruel and unnecessary, which is what we were talking about before you tried
to change the subject.

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak





It's the Brandy Sidestep.

Karen

in article , bewtifulfreak at
wrote on 8/11/03 9:29 PM:

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...
bewtifulfreak wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

So now you've realized you don't have a valid argument, you've
resorted to base insults? You sad, sad woman....

Ann


I'm not the one who edited off the list of United Nations members and
implied their ignorant and dirt poor.

I never said that. You are diverting from the real issue, which was
declawing, and trying to make this into a political argument, to distract
from the fact that you are losing the argument. And even implying some
countries are poorer than others is not making a comment on them as people;
some of the nicest people are those who aren't consumed with possesions.
I've no doubt many people from the nations you mentioned are lovely,
wonderful people, but that doesn't detract from the fact that declawing is
cruel and unnecessary, which is what we were talking about before you tried
to change the subject.

Ann

--

http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak





It's the Brandy Sidestep.

Karen

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

Why don't you girls get a room.

Wow, that's really convincing, Brandy, what a way to get your point across
*yawn*....

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak