Is Tiki Cat cat food good quality???

My wife and I adopted two 12 week old kittens about a month ago.
Initially, they were on MaxCat at the no-kill shelter where we got
them. When we were shopping for supplies, a woman who owns a mom and
pop pet store told us abotu Tiki Cat and how wonderful it is.

We gave them a few cans and it was eaten up in a matter of two
minutes. They just love every flavor, most of them seafood, and
cannot get enough. I know about the phosphorous issue, etc. with too
much seafood, so we do give the chicken flavor quite often, and use
Merrick Turkey Dinner mixed in from time to time.

My concern is, is it good quality? It is made in Thailand and
supposedly the fish vaught are in an area which has "less heavy
metals" than anywhere.

If it is not really such a great food after all, which brand is the
best canned food??? I heard Weruva was amazing as well.

What bothers me the most about this cat food is that ALL the flavors
are fish. Fish cat foods can cause problems for many cats, including
allergies, feeding only this brand of food could be problematic. The
other thing is that there doesn't seem to be any added nutrients (am I
reading this wrong? I looked at the nutritional information and saw
very few ingredients). I would personally be leery of feeding this
food regularly.

There are lots of good brands of canned cat food. I feed Wellness and
it's a great food. Innova Evo and Nature's Variety are other good
ones. I prefer canned food that is grain free, and these three fit the
bill.

On Oct 10, 11:23 am, "Rene S." wrote:
What bothers me the most about this cat food is that ALL the flavors
are fish. Fish cat foods can cause problems for many cats, including
allergies, feeding only this brand of food could be problematic. The
other thing is that there doesn't seem to be any added nutrients (am I
reading this wrong? I looked at the nutritional information and saw
very few ingredients). I would personally be leery of feeding this
food regularly.

There are lots of good brands of canned cat food. I feed Wellness and
it's a great food. Innova Evo and Nature's Variety are other good
ones. I prefer canned food that is grain free, and these three fit the
bill.

Thanks!!

With patience akin to a cat's, Docberk, on 10/10/2008 12:06 PM typed:
On Oct 10, 11:23 am, "Rene S." wrote:
What bothers me the most about this cat food is that ALL the flavors
are fish. Fish cat foods can cause problems for many cats, including
allergies, feeding only this brand of food could be problematic. The
other thing is that there doesn't seem to be any added nutrients (am I
reading this wrong? I looked at the nutritional information and saw
very few ingredients). I would personally be leery of feeding this
food regularly.

There are lots of good brands of canned cat food. I feed Wellness and
it's a great food. Innova Evo and Nature's Variety are other good
ones. I prefer canned food that is grain free, and these three fit the
bill.

Thanks!!

First, it should be noted that Tiki Cat does not have "flavors," per se, but
different formulas that contain different source fish as their respective
ingredients. For example, the Makaha Luau formula contains mackerel and
sardine cutlets (that have not been pureed to a gray paste), *not* mackerel and
sardine "flavors."

Second, not all of the Tiki Cat formulas contain fish: Puka Puka Luau and
Koolina Luau formulas are only chicken, and chicken and egg, respectively.

Third, all Tiki Cat formulas contain the following vitamins and minerals:
Dicalcium phosphate, Choline chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E supplement,
Zinc sulfate heptahydrate, Ferrous sulfate monohydrate, Thiamine mononitrate
(Vitamin B1), Nicotinic acid (Vitamin B3), Calcium pantothenate, Manganese
sulfate monohydrate, Vitamin A supplement, Potassium iodide, Copper sulfate
pentahydrate, Vitamin D3 supplement, Riboflavin supplement (Vitamin B2),
Pyrodoxine hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic acid, Menadione sodium bisulfate
complex (source of Vitamin K), Vitamin B12 supplement. Tiki Cat formulas meet
the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO cat nutrient food profiles for
adult maintenance.

Fourth, Tiki Cat formulas are low magnesium, low phosphate, low sodium and
safe for all adult life stages. The seafood formulas have natural levels of ash
that will vary by formula, and originate from natural carbon levels found in the
whole seafood sources.

Please go to http://www.petropics.com/Ingredients.pdf for a very detailed pdf
file (you'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader or a similar program) on the contents
of every Tiki Cat formula, and an associated nutritional analysis.

Additionally, Rene, I personally would appreciate some supportive data regarding
your assertions that a cat food based on different species of cooked fish would
be problematic for cats. I haven't seen such information in any of the cat care
publications available, nor have I heard it from my vet, and he's well aware
that I feed both my older cats Tiki Cat on a regular basis as part of a rotating
protein source meal plan.

Fur and Purrs --
--
/\ /\ | "To be reminded that one is very much
^o o^ D.K. "Cat" Kraft | like other members of the animal king-
-T- | dom is often funny...though...I do not
~ Lynnwood, WA | too much mind being somewhat like a
___oOO___OOo___ | cat." -- Joseph Wood Kruch (1893-1970)

"D. K. Kraft" wrote

First, it should be noted that Tiki Cat does not have "flavors," per se,
but
different formulas that contain different source fish as their respective
ingredients. For example, the Makaha Luau formula contains mackerel and
sardine cutlets (that have not been pureed to a gray paste), *not*
mackerel and
sardine "flavors."

Second, not all of the Tiki Cat formulas contain fish: Puka Puka Luau and
Koolina Luau formulas are only chicken, and chicken and egg, respectively.

Third, all Tiki Cat formulas contain the following vitamins and minerals:
Dicalcium phosphate, Choline chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E supplement,
Zinc sulfate heptahydrate, Ferrous sulfate monohydrate, Thiamine
mononitrate
(Vitamin B1), Nicotinic acid (Vitamin B3), Calcium pantothenate, Manganese
sulfate monohydrate, Vitamin A supplement, Potassium iodide, Copper
sulfate
pentahydrate, Vitamin D3 supplement, Riboflavin supplement (Vitamin B2),
Pyrodoxine hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic acid, Menadione sodium
bisulfate
complex (source of Vitamin K), Vitamin B12 supplement. Tiki Cat formulas
meet
the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO cat nutrient food profiles
for
adult maintenance.

Fourth, Tiki Cat formulas are low magnesium, low phosphate, low sodium and
safe for all adult life stages. The seafood formulas have natural levels
of ash
that will vary by formula, and originate from natural carbon levels found
in the
whole seafood sources.

Please go to http://www.petropics.com/Ingredients.pdf for a very detailed
pdf
file (you'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader or a similar program) on the
contents
of every Tiki Cat formula, and an associated nutritional analysis.

Additionally, Rene, I personally would appreciate some supportive data
regarding
your assertions that a cat food based on different species of cooked fish
would
be problematic for cats.


You must be out of your mind, you moron spammer. Blow it out your ass.
People are way too smart for this.

With patience akin to a cat's, cybercat, on 10/10/2008 8:14 PM typed:
"D. K. Kraft" wrote
First, it should be noted that Tiki Cat does not have "flavors," per se,
but different formulas that contain different source fish as their respective
ingredients. For example, the Makaha Luau formula contains mackerel and
sardine cutlets (that have not been pureed to a gray paste), *not*
mackerel and sardine "flavors."

Second, not all of the Tiki Cat formulas contain fish: Puka Puka Luau and
Koolina Luau formulas are only chicken, and chicken and egg, respectively.

Third, all Tiki Cat formulas contain the following vitamins and minerals:
Dicalcium phosphate, Choline chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E supplement,
Zinc sulfate heptahydrate, Ferrous sulfate monohydrate, Thiamine
mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Nicotinic acid (Vitamin B3), Calcium pantothenate,
Manganese sulfate monohydrate, Vitamin A supplement, Potassium iodide, Copper
sulfate pentahydrate, Vitamin D3 supplement, Riboflavin supplement (Vitamin B2),
Pyrodoxine hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic acid, Menadione sodium
bisulfate complex (source of Vitamin K), Vitamin B12 supplement. Tiki Cat
formulas meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO cat nutrient food
profiles for adult maintenance.

Fourth, Tiki Cat formulas are low magnesium, low phosphate, low sodium and
safe for all adult life stages. The seafood formulas have natural levels
of ash that will vary by formula, and originate from natural carbon levels found
in the whole seafood sources.

Please go to http://www.petropics.com/Ingredients.pdf for a very detailed
pdf file (you'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader or a similar program) on the
contents of every Tiki Cat formula, and an associated nutritional analysis.

Additionally, Rene, I personally would appreciate some supportive data
regarding your assertions that a cat food based on different species of cooked
fish would be problematic for cats.


You must be out of your mind, you moron spammer. Blow it out your ass.
People are way too smart for this.

Cybercat, what part of my post lead you to believe I was a spammer, let alone
moronic? The original poster, Docberk, asked if Tiki Cat was good quality cat
food. Rene S. responded with incomplete information about the food itself,
along with unsubstantiated assertions about the safety of fish protein fed to
cats on a regular basis. My post was meant to provide Docberk with detailed
information on Tiki Cat food, as well as to request from Rene S. some supportive
data for her assertions, as I have yet to hear similar information from either
my own vets, research vets, or mainstream cat care publications.

I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that I was moronic or a spammer by
virtue of the above information. And actually, I'd like to know how you came
to that conclusion, as well as what, exactly, people are "way to smart for" as
it pertains to my post. Might be interesting reading, at that.

Don't step in the hairball on the stair --
--
/\ /\ | "To be reminded that one is very much
^o o^ D.K. "Cat" Kraft | like other members of the animal king-
-T- | dom is often funny...though...I do not
~ Lynnwood, WA | too much mind being somewhat like a
___oOO___OOo___ | cat." -- Joseph Wood Kruch (1893-1970)

"D. K. Kraft" wrote:

I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that I was moronic or a spammer by
virtue of the above information.

Why, the way she always comes to conclusions -- by great leaps and
bounds.

If you've been reading here for any time at all, I'm sure you're aware
that being called a moron by cybercat doesn't make you in any way
special. It's not an honor one has to earn.
--

Wayne M.

"D. K. Kraft" wrote in message
...
With patience akin to a cat's, cybercat, on 10/10/2008 8:14 PM typed:
"D. K. Kraft" wrote
First, it should be noted that Tiki Cat does not have "flavors," per se,
but different formulas that contain different source fish as their
respective
ingredients. For example, the Makaha Luau formula contains mackerel and
sardine cutlets (that have not been pureed to a gray paste), *not*
mackerel and sardine "flavors."

Second, not all of the Tiki Cat formulas contain fish: Puka Puka Luau
and
Koolina Luau formulas are only chicken, and chicken and egg,
respectively.

Third, all Tiki Cat formulas contain the following vitamins and
minerals:
Dicalcium phosphate, Choline chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E supplement,
Zinc sulfate heptahydrate, Ferrous sulfate monohydrate, Thiamine
mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Nicotinic acid (Vitamin B3), Calcium
pantothenate,
Manganese sulfate monohydrate, Vitamin A supplement, Potassium iodide,
Copper
sulfate pentahydrate, Vitamin D3 supplement, Riboflavin supplement
(Vitamin B2),
Pyrodoxine hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic acid, Menadione sodium
bisulfate complex (source of Vitamin K), Vitamin B12 supplement. Tiki
Cat
formulas meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO cat
nutrient food
profiles for adult maintenance.

Fourth, Tiki Cat formulas are low magnesium, low phosphate, low sodium
and
safe for all adult life stages. The seafood formulas have natural levels
of ash that will vary by formula, and originate from natural carbon
levels found
in the whole seafood sources.

Please go to http://www.petropics.com/Ingredients.pdf for a very
detailed
pdf file (you'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader or a similar program) on the
contents of every Tiki Cat formula, and an associated nutritional
analysis.

Additionally, Rene, I personally would appreciate some supportive data
regarding your assertions that a cat food based on different species of
cooked
fish would be problematic for cats.


You must be out of your mind, you moron spammer. Blow it out your ass.
People are way too smart for this.

Cybercat, what part of my post lead you to believe I was a spammer, let
alone
moronic? The original poster, Docberk, asked if Tiki Cat was good quality
cat
food. Rene S. responded with incomplete information about the food
itself,
along with unsubstantiated assertions about the safety of fish protein fed
to
cats on a regular basis. My post was meant to provide Docberk with
detailed
information on Tiki Cat food, as well as to request from Rene S. some
supportive
data for her assertions, as I have yet to hear similar information from
either
my own vets, research vets, or mainstream cat care publications.

I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that I was moronic or a
spammer by
virtue of the above information. And actually, I'd like to know how you
came
to that conclusion, as well as what, exactly, people are "way to smart
for" as it pertains to my post. Might be interesting reading, at that.

Don't step in the hairball on the stair --
--
/\ /\ | "To be reminded that one is very
much
^o o^ D.K. "Cat" Kraft | like other members of the animal
king-
-T- | dom is often funny...though...I do
not
~ Lynnwood, WA | too much mind being somewhat like a
___oOO___OOo___ | cat." -- Joseph Wood Kruch
(1893-1970)

You're a moron because there is ample evidence that fish flavored foods are
bad for cats. It's been posted here with supporting links many times.

I have to assume you're selling this crap because there are so many cat
foods that are so much better.

Rene does not have to give you ALL the information. Does your machine access
GOOGLE?

"Wayne Mitchell" wrote in message
...
"D. K. Kraft" wrote:

I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that I was moronic or a
spammer by
virtue of the above information.

Why, the way she always comes to conclusions -- by great leaps and
bounds.

If you've been reading here for any time at all, I'm sure you're aware
that being called a moron by cybercat doesn't make you in any way
special. It's not an honor one has to earn.
--


It's true. God made most morons stupid. Take you for example.

Please read this article:
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