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Sorry did not spell check Also should have read bleach does not always do the trick. It usually is the best bet but can damage a lot of things, Never use products with ammonia in it. Ammonia smells very similar to cat urine Nice hint, thanks |
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I've rung the vets you would probably all like to know.. they want me to get a urine sample.. How the hell do I do that!! Now I want the cat to pee on the floor... although I chucked some tissue in the bin that I soaked some up with before! Good Man I have to say you are one of the few that actually listen when it takes calling a vet most people come in here and ask these questions and get ****ed when we tell them to go to a vet. Most want a quick fix. internet slap on the back from the USA Well thank you... Take a hand shake from Yorkshire, England :-) The way I see it is that I took ownership of the cats so it's my problem.. simple I say! Well.. simple but complicated eh! Yes truly is a pain in the butt I think my cat is thinking that too.. or pain in the bladder or something anyway ) I decide many years ago it is just best to let them do it. The money is well worth it. Hmm .. I think i'll give it one try, I don't want to stress out the poor thing.. Got a spare bathroom if so take a litter box line it with a plastic bag make sure the box is clean put NO litter in it put the furball in the bathroom with food and water close the door. Be ready for a possible mess ;-) I can see mess being the result but i'm going to have to try something.. I ain't really got a spare room as the spare room is full of junk... that's what they're for aint they?! If you can't you need to tell the vet and it probably will take an over night visit so they can properly collect the urine I'll see what I can do.. I'll try your plastic bag thing I think in a room, it the best suggestion I heard so far anyway.. Then I'll get some in a syringe from an inkjet refill kit. Then spray my spare room with ****gone.com or whatever its called! Sounds ok in theory anyway.. Thanks again :-) |
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Got a spare bathroom if so take a litter box line it with a plastic bag make sure the box is clean put NO litter in it put the furball in the bathroom with food and water close the door. Be ready for a possible mess ;-) I mean one of the pans that you use. It will have the smell from being used before. The clean part is no litter in it just the plastic bag as a liner. the smell will permeate thru the bag so the cat thinks it is using the litter box Ah sounds a plan.. so just put a plastic bag over the litter tray? Or are you suggesting putting a bag/liner underneath some litter? I can leave the other cat out overnight or in a different room with another tray.. |
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"Dave" wrote in message
.uk... That's great you're a star Matthew:-) I will take all your points and work through them.. I want her well first though so I will focus on the infection possibility. I've rung the vets you would probably all like to know.. they want me to get a urine sample.. How the hell do I do that!! Now I want the cat to pee on the floor... although I chucked some tissue in the bin that I soaked some up with before! Seroiusly.. any suggestions would be great.. The vets said they had some litter which is non absorbent or they could express some from the cat if I don't manage to get anything... Anyone done it before? Cheers, Dave Your vet should be able to get a urine sample with a catheter - mine always have because, like you, I don't know *how* you'd get a cat to pee in a vial (also, when a woman has to give a urine sample to test for a UTI, it has to be a "clean" sample (this is probably TMI, but you have to clean the "outside" area to avoid outside bacteria contaminating the sample, then you have to get urine during "mid-stream" for the same reason - I wouldn't expect a cat to be able to do that, so a catheterization by the vet would be necessary). Hugs, CatNipped |
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On Mon 10 Sep 2007 01:42:57p, Matthew wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav : You are like on crack today. lol -- Cheryl Nope just a SUGAR RUSH I made my giant double chocolate chip cookies with peanut butter and raisins today. As any good baker does I made a bakers dozen at least 3 times and an extra batch just to "taste". See what I did today. I based the recipe from one of my favorite lady on Food Network 3 eggs 1 egg white 1 1/4 cups packed light brown sugar 1 cup granulated sugar 1 little dash of cinnamon 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract 1 12-ounce jar creamy peanut butter 1 stick butter, softened 1/2 cup multi-colored chocolate candies 1/2 cup chocolate chips 1/4 cup raisins,2 teaspoons baking soda 4 1/2 cups quick-cooking oatmeal (not instant) Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. Line cookie sheets with parchment paper or nonstick baking mats. In a very large mixing bowl, combine the eggs and sugars. Mix well. Add the salt, vanilla, peanut butter, and butter. Mix well. Stir in the chocolate candies, chocolate chips, raisins, if using, baking soda, and oatmeal. Drop by tablespoons 2 inches apart onto the prepared cookie sheets. Bake for 8 to 10 minutes. Do not overbake. Let stand for about 3 minutes before transferring to wire racks to cool. When cool, store in large resealable plastic bags away from your hungry eyes for they are delicious. Yikes! I got reciped on H+B!! Sounds good though. Thanks for the recipe. I will be making those!! BTW - lots of good info for Dave from you. I was just messin' with ya. -- Cheryl |
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"Matthew" wrote in message
... "cindys" wrote in message ... "Matthew" wrote in message ... Got a spare bathroom if so take a litter box line it with a plastic bag make sure the box is clean put NO litter in it put the furball in the bathroom with food and water close the door. Be ready for a possible mess ;-) If you can't you need to tell the vet and it probably will take an over night visit so they can properly collect the urine ------- Matthew, that's not true. My vet has taken urine samples from my cats on multiple occasions. The vet tech takes the cat in the back and then returns the cat 5 minutes later. I have never succeeded in trying to collect a cat urine sample, and I haven't been asked to do so in years. It takes only a few minutes at the vet office. I don't understand why any vet is asking someone to try to do this on his own. The only problem I have ever run into is if the cat has urinated right before the visit and the bladder is empty. And the vet can tell if the bladder is full or empty by palpation. But even at that, bringing the cat back the next day for another try is still preferable to trying to do it yourself. Best regards, ---Cindy S. I said probably for a reason. The reason is in my experiences none of my cats thru the years have ever been able to be coaxed into doing it at the vets office. Many vets don't have the time to do it that is why I said it would probably take an over night visit. Many will collect the urine and send it off with out having to see the vet. Everytime I have left one over night they had the sample collected from the overnight staff. They had the test already run and by the time I picked the furball up at the end of the next day I had everything already ready to go. Collecting it can be very easy if the cats would work with us ;-) Vets don't have to wait for a cat to "go", they can get a sterile urine sample quite easily by simply inserting a catheter. Hugs, CatNipped |
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"Matthew" wrote in message
... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... "Matthew" wrote in message ... "cindys" wrote in message ... "Matthew" wrote in message ... Got a spare bathroom if so take a litter box line it with a plastic bag make sure the box is clean put NO litter in it put the furball in the bathroom with food and water close the door. Be ready for a possible mess ;-) If you can't you need to tell the vet and it probably will take an over night visit so they can properly collect the urine ------- Matthew, that's not true. My vet has taken urine samples from my cats on multiple occasions. The vet tech takes the cat in the back and then returns the cat 5 minutes later. I have never succeeded in trying to collect a cat urine sample, and I haven't been asked to do so in years. It takes only a few minutes at the vet office. I don't understand why any vet is asking someone to try to do this on his own. The only problem I have ever run into is if the cat has urinated right before the visit and the bladder is empty. And the vet can tell if the bladder is full or empty by palpation. But even at that, bringing the cat back the next day for another try is still preferable to trying to do it yourself. Best regards, ---Cindy S. I said probably for a reason. The reason is in my experiences none of my cats thru the years have ever been able to be coaxed into doing it at the vets office. Many vets don't have the time to do it that is why I said it would probably take an over night visit. Many will collect the urine and send it off with out having to see the vet. Everytime I have left one over night they had the sample collected from the overnight staff. They had the test already run and by the time I picked the furball up at the end of the next day I had everything already ready to go. Collecting it can be very easy if the cats would work with us ;-) Vets don't have to wait for a cat to "go", they can get a sterile urine sample quite easily by simply inserting a catheter. Hugs, CatNipped You have never tried to stick something up there on one of my cats. Even my vet knows better specially Rumble bye bye fingers hand arm face ;-) Wow, I didn't think any cat was badder than my Bandit - and the vet never had any problems with her. What do you do when they need a "sterile" sample (like for UTIs)? Hugs, CatNipped |
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On 10 Sep, 18:42, "Matthew" wrote:
"Cheryl" wrote in message ... On Mon 10 Sep 2007 01:01:40p, Matthew wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav : "Dave" wrote in message o.uk... Got a spare bathroom if so take a litter box line it with a plastic bag make sure the box is clean put NO litter in it put the furball in the bathroom with food and water close the door. Be ready for a possible mess ;-) I mean one of the pans that you use. It will have the smell from being used before. The clean part is no litter in it just the plastic bag as a liner. the smell will permeate thru the bag so the cat thinks it is using the litter box Ah sounds a plan.. so just put a plastic bag over the litter tray? Or are you suggesting putting a bag/liner underneath some litter? I can leave the other cat out overnight or in a different room with another tray.. No use one of their pan that has been emptied out but not cleaned. Basically no litter dirty pan. Put a fresh plastic garbage bag over it. The smell is still there but the plastic bag will prevent it from being soaked into any left over litter and make it easy to collect. The ink refill syringe is the best bet. PS. it is called www.urinegone.com Naturals Miracle is a good product also your pet store should carry something similar You will be shocked once you use the black light. I carry one when I travel. I have made many hotels come in and change the linen before I even think about laying down. You are like on crack today. lol -- Cheryl Nope just a SUGAR RUSH I made my giant double chocolate chip cookies with peanut butter and raisins today. As any good baker does I made a bakers dozen at least 3 times and an extra batch just to "taste". See what I did today. I based the recipe from one of my favorite lady on Food Network 3 eggs 1 egg white 1 1/4 cups packed light brown sugar 1 cup granulated sugar 1 little dash of cinnamon 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract 1 12-ounce jar creamy peanut butter 1 stick butter, softened 1/2 cup multi-colored chocolate candies 1/2 cup chocolate chips 1/4 cup raisins,2 teaspoons baking soda 4 1/2 cups quick-cooking oatmeal (not instant) Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. Line cookie sheets with parchment paper or nonstick baking mats. In a very large mixing bowl, combine the eggs and sugars. Mix well. Add the salt, vanilla, peanut butter, and butter. Mix well. Stir in the chocolate candies, chocolate chips, raisins, if using, baking soda, and oatmeal. Drop by tablespoons 2 inches apart onto the prepared cookie sheets. Bake for 8 to 10 minutes. Do not overbake. Let stand for about 3 minutes before transferring to wire racks to cool. When cool, store in large resealable plastic bags away from your hungry eyes for they are delicious.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Who said you don't learn plenty new, plenty of times...? Sheelagh "o" |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:57:24 GMT, "Dave" wrote:
Hi everyone, I am hoping that you kind newsgroup members can help me establish why my cat is urinaiting like she is. She is about 2.5 years old, is very much a domestic cat and there is always a clean litter tray doen for her to use. I have 2 cats, they wer sisters and have lived together all their lives. I have had them about 2 years now. The problem is, she likes to urinate in the house, standing and spraying against furniture, walls, plastic bags, the fridge, DVD cases.. really doesn't seem bothered at all! I have recently replaced a stinky carpet in my living room for wood floor and she has, just this afternoon, urinated on the side of a clean, dry cardboard box which has run onto my nice new floor. It is really frustrating me! Dave, Catman here. Did this come on SUDDENLY?! I think this would be considered normal ongoing behavior for an un-neutered female cat, ESPECIALLY if you have two females, with the exception of not covering up in the cat box. How old was she when she was neutered? I do occasionally see her using the litter tray but I rarely see her trying to cover anything up, although I do ocaasionally see or hear her scratching against the floor and then I know what she has just done! They can go outside and I leave my door open most of the day to allow that, but today, the door was left open and she chose to urinate inside on the cardboard box. Please help, I don't know what to do. She is such a loving, soft hearted creature, really beautiful natured but has this horrible habit. I don't know where to start. I use catsan litter. The other cat uses the tray or goes outside, no problem at all. I have had many cats over the years and have never seen this in a cat before. One BIG question is: Are you feeding your cats DRY food? I found out the HARD way how that can screw up cats. My cat got FLUTD, and one of the most pronounced symptoms was urinating out of the box. He peed in the bathtub (that was considerate of him, as it was easy to clean up, but I don't think he is actually THAT smart) and on the floor near his box. Peeing out-of-the-box only lasted for two days. He also didn't cover what pee he did do in the box, at that time. Switching him to canned fish dinner cat food, imho, fwiw, cured him of his FLUTD, in about a week. See: www.markshouse.com for more info. Catman I would massively appreciate any advice you could give me. Many thanks for your time, David |
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"Dave" wrote in message .uk... Seroiusly.. any suggestions would be great.. The vets said they had some litter which is non absorbent or they could express some from the cat if I don't manage to get anything... Anyone done it before? Just to clarify.. I didn't mean done the expressing.. I aint doing that.. I meant getting a sample.. I read that back and it didn't sound clear. The vet might be able to provide you with some clear plastic 'pearls' that you put in a clean litter box. When the cat urinates in the box you can pour off the urine into a clean container and take that to the vet. At least that's how we did it with my Isabelle. Turns out she had crystals in her urine and also has chronic kidney infections so there was a reason for my girl to be peeing outside the box. Wendy |
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