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My cats have never been out
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:31:34 -0400, cybercat wrote:
"PawsForThought" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 19, 12:59 pm, "Fred G. Mackey" wrote: Patty wrote: My cats have always been outdoors. I've never been paranoid to force them to stay inside. I will admit, I did try it with Rusty when he was little, but gave up when he was nearly a year old. He virtually destroyed my house because he was so hyper. I'd be interested in what your definition of "destroyed" is. I find that usually people who say their cat destroyed their house are people who haven't trained their cats properly, or who haven't provided appropriate scratching surfaces for the cat. It's true. And like "Patty," they all argue about the All Powerful Nature of their Ferocious Cat. Horse ****. Even lame humans like Patty have the edge that a large forebrain and opposable thumbs give all humans. You know, I don't feel the need to call YOU names. Patty |
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My cats have never been out
on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:55:43 GMT, Patty wrote:
He virtually destroyed my house because he was so hyper. He was originally a "farm cat" and was probably descended from generations of outdoor hunters. He HAS to go outside. It's in his genes. Sorry, but this is utter BS. My almost 4 year old cat, Rudy, came from a well established feral colony at the age of 4 months. He is now a very happy, satisfied indoor cat. Your cat destroyed your house becuase he was bored, not because he couldn't go outside. If you provide interesting toys, multi-level climbing and scratching surfaces and play with your cat, he won't destroy your house. Cats are not decorative objects and do require interaction. They can be very happy indoors, and they are definitely safer. -- Lynne |
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My cats have never been out
on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:37:19 GMT, Patty wrote:
Oh, and we've never seen a case of the plague either. The plague is no long contained in California, FYI. -- Lynne |
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My cats have never been out
"Matthew" wrote:
Cyber has a good idea about the fence but to prevent them from getting over the fence they make a top that can prevent animals from coming in and out I've been lucky that my cats recognize boundaries such as the railing around the deck (with a gate) and never try to jump up or squeeze through. I think they're actually too chicken to go any further. -mhd |
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My cats have never been out
On Tue 19 Jun 2007 06:02:32p, Lynne wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav .97.142: Sorry, but this is utter BS. My almost 4 year old cat, Rudy, came from a well established feral colony at the age of 4 months. He is now a very happy, satisfied indoor cat. Your cat destroyed your house becuase he was bored, not because he couldn't go outside. If you provide interesting toys, multi-level climbing and scratching surfaces and play with your cat, he won't destroy your house. Cats are not decorative objects and do require interaction. They can be very happy indoors, and they are definitely safer. Ditto here. All four of my current cats came from the outdoors and have no desire to go out except in the enclosure that they know is theirs. Rhett and Scarlett were born outdoors and came in at a young age, but Bonnie was a feral (doesn't even have a desire to go out in the enclosure) and Shamrock was a cared-for stray until the person had to move and contacted Washington Animal Rescue League to come get him. They have lots of toys, places to climb, and the company of each other. And, no need to hunt to eat. They all seem happy to me. -- Cheryl |
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My cats have never been out
on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:27:08 GMT, Cheryl
wrote: Ditto here. All four of my current cats came from the outdoors and have no desire to go out except in the enclosure that they know is theirs. Rhett and Scarlett were born outdoors and came in at a young age, but Bonnie was a feral (doesn't even have a desire to go out in the enclosure) and Shamrock was a cared-for stray until the person had to move and contacted Washington Animal Rescue League to come get him. They have lots of toys, places to climb, and the company of each other. And, no need to hunt to eat. And now a bone to chew! Hehe. -- Lynne |
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My cats have never been out
on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:37:19 GMT, Patty wrote:
Ripped my curtains to shreds, knocked everything of the top of the cupboards (you know, the space between the ceiling and the top of the kitchen cupboard?), knocked anything on a flat surface off breaking many items (even the top of the refrigerator). When I came home from work one day and found him dangling from the top of the curtain rod in the living room (the windows are nearly ceiling height, (I live in an old home and the ceilings are 9 feet off the floor), And by the way, I recommend that you never get another kitten. Stick to adult cats. None of the above sounds unusual to me... Now had you put away the breakables and trimmed his nails, you could have saved some of your prized possessions. To toss him outdoors for being a kitten and then call him 'fixed' is just illogical as hell. -- Lynne |
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My cats have never been out
Lynne wrote:
on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:37:19 GMT, Patty wrote: Oh, and we've never seen a case of the plague either. The plague is no long contained in California, FYI. What do you mean? That the disease is in the population, uncontrolled? I haven't heard of this, and I live in California. What part of CA, by the way? JOyce |
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My cats have never been out
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:40:41 -0500, Lynne wrote:
on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:37:19 GMT, Patty wrote: Ripped my curtains to shreds, knocked everything of the top of the cupboards (you know, the space between the ceiling and the top of the kitchen cupboard?), knocked anything on a flat surface off breaking many items (even the top of the refrigerator). When I came home from work one day and found him dangling from the top of the curtain rod in the living room (the windows are nearly ceiling height, (I live in an old home and the ceilings are 9 feet off the floor), And by the way, I recommend that you never get another kitten. Stick to adult cats. None of the above sounds unusual to me... Now had you put away the breakables and trimmed his nails, you could have saved some of your prized possessions. To toss him outdoors for being a kitten and then call him 'fixed' is just illogical as hell. Yes, and in this newsgroup your opinion is the only one that should be followed. Patty I said it once before. When people attack each other for a different opinion it's time to leave and so I will. |
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My cats have never been out
"Lynne" wrote in message . 97.142... on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:37:19 GMT, Patty wrote: Ripped my curtains to shreds, knocked everything of the top of the cupboards (you know, the space between the ceiling and the top of the kitchen cupboard?), knocked anything on a flat surface off breaking many items (even the top of the refrigerator). When I came home from work one day and found him dangling from the top of the curtain rod in the living room (the windows are nearly ceiling height, (I live in an old home and the ceilings are 9 feet off the floor), And by the way, I recommend that you never get another kitten. Stick to adult cats. None of the above sounds unusual to me... Now had you put away the breakables and trimmed his nails, you could have saved some of your prized possessions. To toss him outdoors for being a kitten and then call him 'fixed' is just illogical as hell. -- Lynne This isn't what I would consider normal. I have had cats for 45 years and have never had one act like that. My cats have been indoor cats, active and happy, but not destructive. On they other hand, they have lots of toys and attention plus multi-level climbing surfaces. Holly will get on the table and carefully push papers onto the floor, one-by-one. It's a game to her. But I have never had a cat that has shredded curtains or been as destructive as described here. It takes a little time (say "no" and distract their attention any time they head for the curtains, for example), but this should not be viewed as normal behavior. My cats also show no interest at all in going outdoors. I did have a cat, many years ago, that was an outdoor cat. When she was killed on the road, I decided that I would only have cats that I could keep safe *and happy* indoors from that time on. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: 'o' Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e |
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