What Can I Do To Help This Cat?

(Luvskats00) wrote in message ...
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Sherry...I know it's a common belief in the UK to allow cats to roam. What
are the statistics there - in the UK at large - regarding the percentage of
cats who ARE allowed to roam who get killed due to, say: cars, human &
animal predators, and toxic substances? Let us know.

AFAIK, no such statistics exist for the UK (or indeed for the US). All
we can offer are anecdotes, so here's mine from living in the UK for
many years; I have seen exactly zero cats squashed on the road, no-one
I've direct knowledge of has had a cat either killed by predators or
toxins. Indeed, there are relatively few predators and toxins lurking
in wait for the cat.

Of course, anecdotes are worth basically bugger all.

Steve.

(Luvskats00) wrote in message ...
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Sherry...I know it's a common belief in the UK to allow cats to roam. What
are the statistics there - in the UK at large - regarding the percentage of
cats who ARE allowed to roam who get killed due to, say: cars, human &
animal predators, and toxic substances? Let us know.

AFAIK, no such statistics exist for the UK (or indeed for the US). All
we can offer are anecdotes, so here's mine from living in the UK for
many years; I have seen exactly zero cats squashed on the road, no-one
I've direct knowledge of has had a cat either killed by predators or
toxins. Indeed, there are relatively few predators and toxins lurking
in wait for the cat.

Of course, anecdotes are worth basically bugger all.

Steve.

Steve G: rants

..I have seen exactly zero cats squashed on the road, no-one
I've direct knowledge of has had a cat either killed by predators or
toxins. Indeed, there are relatively few predators and toxins lurking
in wait for the cat.

Steve..your (psycho) ID is appropriate. I offer info from legitimate sources
(urls available on request as is the other documentations I offered time and
time again) and you and the other trolls keep insisting on using your opinion
as fact. Obviously, you will continue to write anything that comes to mind and
pretending that is absolutely true. Sick troll.

Steve G: rants

..I have seen exactly zero cats squashed on the road, no-one
I've direct knowledge of has had a cat either killed by predators or
toxins. Indeed, there are relatively few predators and toxins lurking
in wait for the cat.

Steve..your (psycho) ID is appropriate. I offer info from legitimate sources
(urls available on request as is the other documentations I offered time and
time again) and you and the other trolls keep insisting on using your opinion
as fact. Obviously, you will continue to write anything that comes to mind and
pretending that is absolutely true. Sick troll.

Steve G: rants

..I have seen exactly zero cats squashed on the road, no-one
I've direct knowledge of has had a cat either killed by predators or
toxins. Indeed, there are relatively few predators and toxins lurking
in wait for the cat.

Steve..your (psycho) ID is appropriate. I offer info from legitimate sources
(urls available on request as is the other documentations I offered time and
time again) and you and the other trolls keep insisting on using your opinion
as fact. Obviously, you will continue to write anything that comes to mind and
pretending that is absolutely true. Sick troll.

I presume that your are debating whether or not pet cats are hit by cars.

No. I am debating whether or not *you* have the right to slam another poster
for letting their cats out. You don't.

(snipped)
It appears that you are implying that cats can: read street
signs,
tell the difference between red & green traffic lights, carry guns, bats and
grenades to fend off dogs/animal/human predators and have understood consumer
warnings against drinking leaking antifreeze/coolant or eating poison and
dying
in a horrible, painful way.

Where did I imply that? Find the post and re-paste it, please.
What I *am* implying, is that you don't know squat about how other people live.
My cats go outdoors. I am *blessed* to live in an area that is relatively
risk-free--but I *do* trade human convenience to live here. Your anecdotes
about guns, dogs, neighbors, traffic, antifreeze, abusive humans, poison, bats,
grenades, (?), predators, etc. don't apply to everyone. I believe cats
benefit from time outdoors, but at the same time, I realize it isn't possible
for everyone and compromises can be made so that it isn't necessary for a cat
to go out to be happy. I don't criticize your decision to keep your cats in. I
assume you're a responsible pet owner who has carefully weighed the risks of
the area *you* choose to live in and that you likewise offer the cat a
stimulating environment indoors.


Sherry

I presume that your are debating whether or not pet cats are hit by cars.

No. I am debating whether or not *you* have the right to slam another poster
for letting their cats out. You don't.

(snipped)
It appears that you are implying that cats can: read street
signs,
tell the difference between red & green traffic lights, carry guns, bats and
grenades to fend off dogs/animal/human predators and have understood consumer
warnings against drinking leaking antifreeze/coolant or eating poison and
dying
in a horrible, painful way.

Where did I imply that? Find the post and re-paste it, please.
What I *am* implying, is that you don't know squat about how other people live.
My cats go outdoors. I am *blessed* to live in an area that is relatively
risk-free--but I *do* trade human convenience to live here. Your anecdotes
about guns, dogs, neighbors, traffic, antifreeze, abusive humans, poison, bats,
grenades, (?), predators, etc. don't apply to everyone. I believe cats
benefit from time outdoors, but at the same time, I realize it isn't possible
for everyone and compromises can be made so that it isn't necessary for a cat
to go out to be happy. I don't criticize your decision to keep your cats in. I
assume you're a responsible pet owner who has carefully weighed the risks of
the area *you* choose to live in and that you likewise offer the cat a
stimulating environment indoors.


Sherry

I presume that your are debating whether or not pet cats are hit by cars.

No. I am debating whether or not *you* have the right to slam another poster
for letting their cats out. You don't.

(snipped)
It appears that you are implying that cats can: read street
signs,
tell the difference between red & green traffic lights, carry guns, bats and
grenades to fend off dogs/animal/human predators and have understood consumer
warnings against drinking leaking antifreeze/coolant or eating poison and
dying
in a horrible, painful way.

Where did I imply that? Find the post and re-paste it, please.
What I *am* implying, is that you don't know squat about how other people live.
My cats go outdoors. I am *blessed* to live in an area that is relatively
risk-free--but I *do* trade human convenience to live here. Your anecdotes
about guns, dogs, neighbors, traffic, antifreeze, abusive humans, poison, bats,
grenades, (?), predators, etc. don't apply to everyone. I believe cats
benefit from time outdoors, but at the same time, I realize it isn't possible
for everyone and compromises can be made so that it isn't necessary for a cat
to go out to be happy. I don't criticize your decision to keep your cats in. I
assume you're a responsible pet owner who has carefully weighed the risks of
the area *you* choose to live in and that you likewise offer the cat a
stimulating environment indoors.


Sherry

Steve G: rants

..I have seen exactly zero cats squashed on the road, no-one
I've direct knowledge of has had a cat either killed by predators or
toxins. Indeed, there are relatively few predators and toxins lurking
in wait for the cat.

Steve..your (psycho) ID is appropriate. I offer info from legitimate sources
(urls available on request as is the other documentations I offered time and
time again) and you and the other trolls keep insisting on using your opinion
as fact. Obviously, you will continue to write anything that comes to mind
and
pretending that is absolutely true. Sick troll.

Why do you think it's a troll post? I've read the same thoughts posted *time
and time again* from UK friends. I don't know the reason, or whether this is
limited to specific outlying areas, but there's got to be a reason for it,
whether it's lower speed limits, less traffic, fewer lanes or what. I think
the UK naturally has fewer indiginous wildlife that prey on cats than we do,
also.
It *does* sound foreign to us, but I'm certainly not going to accuse Steve of
*lying*. In fact, I'd like to hear more about it. Maybe Alison can give us some
insight also.
Oh, and post those URL's please. I'd be interested.

Sherry

Steve G: rants

..I have seen exactly zero cats squashed on the road, no-one
I've direct knowledge of has had a cat either killed by predators or
toxins. Indeed, there are relatively few predators and toxins lurking
in wait for the cat.

Steve..your (psycho) ID is appropriate. I offer info from legitimate sources
(urls available on request as is the other documentations I offered time and
time again) and you and the other trolls keep insisting on using your opinion
as fact. Obviously, you will continue to write anything that comes to mind
and
pretending that is absolutely true. Sick troll.

Why do you think it's a troll post? I've read the same thoughts posted *time
and time again* from UK friends. I don't know the reason, or whether this is
limited to specific outlying areas, but there's got to be a reason for it,
whether it's lower speed limits, less traffic, fewer lanes or what. I think
the UK naturally has fewer indiginous wildlife that prey on cats than we do,
also.
It *does* sound foreign to us, but I'm certainly not going to accuse Steve of
*lying*. In fact, I'd like to hear more about it. Maybe Alison can give us some
insight also.
Oh, and post those URL's please. I'd be interested.

Sherry