GRRRR. My doctor (OT)

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
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On 2006-05-12, Christina Websell penned:


Well, yes. If it's *absolutely* necessary they will come to the
house to see you if you are too sick to get to the surgery. They do
this quite often for elderly patients who have no car or no-one who
can transport them to the doctor. After the morning surgery seeing
patients there, they will be out on home visits until the afternoon.
You seem surprised which suggests that it doesn't happen where you
live. If not, what happens to a patient who has that doctor, and
cannot get to the surgery through illness? Would the doctor not
make a home visit in those circumstances? If not, why not? If
they don't make a home visit what happens to that patient, then?


I don't know ... there are definitely vets who make house calls in the
US, so it's hard to imagine there aren't *any* doctors who make house
calls.

It's certainly not the norm, though.


Most vets that make house calls though, aren't they usually for simple
planned procedures like euthanasia where it is a matter of kindness?

Or I know there are a few mobile vet clinics the same as there are mobile
grooming trucks where all the needed equipment is set up in a van.

Jo

Tweed wrote:

A corset then! You do need something to keep that injury protected.

You are quite right, Pat. It would be far better if the thing was
kept confined into where it should be, how can I get a corset these
days though?

I remember when someone I knew had a similar hernia. Her guts kept
popping out through her navel. When it happened, it would take her
45 minutes or more to stuff it back in - a painful, and, I imagine,
rather gross process.

And isn't that unsanitary? You're touching your internal organs with
hands that probably have bacteria on them, that ordinarily wouldn't
go directly into the body via that entry point. There's a reason we
have skin to cover our organs! And you probably don't "scrub" the way
a surgeon does, every time you have to poke at the protruding organ.

I sure hope you find a doctor to take care of it soon!

Joyce

Cheryl Perkins wrote:


I have never known a doctor who makes home visits, although I have heard
rumours that very rarely one might do it either as a special favour to a
dying patient or because their patient is extremely elderly and fragile,
and treating such patients is their specialty.

How times have changed! When I was a kid, if a person was
sick in bed at home (flu or whatever) the doctor came to
THEM. (Why allow anyone with a probably communicable
disease to come in to the office and spread it around to
other patients - let alone anyone they encountered enroute?)

A couple of times, when I was sick (with minor ailments) in
Europe, the doctor came to my hotel to see me. (And the fee
was generally less than the charge for an office visit here
in the U.S.) Because neither Medicare nor my Medigap
insurance covers me overseas, I have a travel medical policy
which covers everything my primary insurers do not (which
means all of it, in Europe). Although I have to pay the
bills first, then submit them to the insurance company, they
have never refused to reimburse me for anything - including
medication.





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Tweed wrote:

A corset then! You do need something to keep that injury protected.

You are quite right, Pat. It would be far better if the thing was
kept confined into where it should be, how can I get a corset these
days though?

I remember when someone I knew had a similar hernia. Her guts kept
popping out through her navel. When it happened, it would take her
45 minutes or more to stuff it back in - a painful, and, I imagine,
rather gross process.

And isn't that unsanitary? You're touching your internal organs with
hands that probably have bacteria on them, that ordinarily wouldn't
go directly into the body via that entry point. There's a reason we
have skin to cover our organs! And you probably don't "scrub" the way
a surgeon does, every time you have to poke at the protruding organ.

I sure hope you find a doctor to take care of it soon!

Joyce

It's not like that at all. Everything is still inside the skin so there's
no danger of touching exposed internal organs. It just bulges out from
inside but it still contained inside by skin. It's not pleasant even so.
I did a bit of googling and discovered 20 per cent incisional hernias occur
from the operation that I had.. ah, well, I was the unlucky two out of ten.
It all goes back in when I lie down. Maybe I should lie down more while I
wait for my operation ;-)

Tweed

"Dan M" wrote in message
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I don't know how high above your waist the hernia is, but if it isn't too
high perhaps a weight-lifter's abdominal support belt would help.

Dan

Or perhaps one of those support belt thingies that employees in big-box
stores have to wear.

I'll think about this solution, Dan, thanks for suggesting it, it hadn't
occurred to me, although they might be too big for me perhaps.

Tweed

A corset then! You do need something to keep that injury protected.
You are quite right, Pat. It would be far better if the thing was
kept confined into where it should be, how can I get a corset these
days though?
I remember when someone I knew had a similar hernia. Her guts kept
popping out through her navel. When it happened, it would take her
45 minutes or more to stuff it back in - a painful, and, I imagine,
rather gross process.
And isn't that unsanitary? You're touching your internal organs with
hands that probably have bacteria on them, that ordinarily wouldn't
go directly into the body via that entry point. There's a reason we
have skin to cover our organs! And you probably don't "scrub" the way
a surgeon does, every time you have to poke at the protruding organ.
I sure hope you find a doctor to take care of it soon!
Joyce

At risk of being blasted by those who know better, I couldn't sleep
tonight w/o saying to Tweed:
That is *not* your stomach protruding out the opening, no way. From
my knowledge of anatomy (CT scans show your anatomy from a
horizontal point of view, w/things all layered) what's popping out
there is either large or small intestine, at worst, if indeed it *is*
an incisional hernia, as doctor confirmed to you.
Before you go buy and/or put a snug/tight fitting "truss-type" device
of any sort over your hernia site, *please* get ahold of your
medical people (whoever they are; I lost track of the UK caregivers
discussed) and make sure you would not be restricting the circulation
of intestinal herniation bothering you.
Forgive me for unsolicited advice above....ER work entailed many
cases of people doctoring themselves and end results thereof.

"dnr" wrote in message
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A corset then! You do need something to keep that injury protected.
You are quite right, Pat. It would be far better if the thing was
kept confined into where it should be, how can I get a corset these
days though?
I remember when someone I knew had a similar hernia. Her guts kept
popping out through her navel. When it happened, it would take her
45 minutes or more to stuff it back in - a painful, and, I imagine,
rather gross process.
And isn't that unsanitary? You're touching your internal organs with
hands that probably have bacteria on them, that ordinarily wouldn't
go directly into the body via that entry point. There's a reason we
have skin to cover our organs! And you probably don't "scrub" the way
a surgeon does, every time you have to poke at the protruding organ.
I sure hope you find a doctor to take care of it soon!
Joyce

At risk of being blasted by those who know better, I couldn't sleep
tonight w/o saying to Tweed:
That is *not* your stomach protruding out the opening, no way. From
my knowledge of anatomy (CT scans show your anatomy from a
horizontal point of view, w/things all layered) what's popping out
there is either large or small intestine, at worst.

Hmm. I thought the intestines were lower than this hernia is. It is well
above the waist, only just below the sternum, sort of where my stomach is
;-)


if indeed it *is*
an incisional hernia, as doctor confirmed to you.

Might it not be then? I had an incision from sternum to pubis and it
certainly seems to be popping out just under the sternum.
What else could it be then?

Before you go buy and/or put a snug/tight fitting "truss-type" device
of any sort over your hernia site, *please* get ahold of your
medical people (whoever they are; I lost track of the UK caregivers
discussed) and make sure you would not be restricting the circulation
of intestinal herniation bothering you.

I promise I won't do anything rash without relying on the "advice" of my
doctor. g

Forgive me for unsolicited advice above....ER work entailed many
cases of people doctoring themselves and end results thereof.

Thank you for caring enough to post this information. Btw, may I ask, are
you Hopitus?

It's probably academic anyway. On June 21 I have to have a follow up
appointment for my ovarian nasty by the surgeon who performed my op, so he
will see it anyway if all else fails and will know what to do about it. He
might like to tidy up his handiwork himself or perhaps refer me to a
colleague who specialises in repairing hernias. I'd prefer him to do the
latter actually...as he is a gynaecologist & obstetrician.
So there is a sort of fail-safe in place fortunately. If I don't get an
appointment at the hospital via my GP soon - which is now quite unlikely -
I'm certain to be seen within 5 weeks by my gynae, who I have great faith in
and I know he will sort it out.
He was *so* pleased that he'd managed to save my life (he thought he
wouldn't be able to originally and said I'd done far better than he had ever
hoped) purrs and prayers helped obviously!! that for something to go wrong
with me now would be a huge blow to his pride ;-)

Tweed
hoping this will truly be my last operation..

"Christina Websell wrote in message
Hmm. I thought the intestines were lower than this hernia is. It is well
above the waist, only just below the sternum, sort of where my stomach is

Nope, your intestines twist up and around well above your waist (that why
a lot of people think they're having a heart attack when it's only a gas
attack - because of where the pain is). Please do talk to your doctor
before using a truss or corset, I had a friend whose intestine was blocked
of because of scar tissue after a surgery and parts of her intestine ended
up becoming gangrenous because of lack of proper blood flow.
Hugs,
CatNipped
certainly seems to be popping out just under the sternum.
What else could it be then?
I promise I won't do anything rash without relying on the "advice" of my
doctor. g
Forgive me for unsolicited advice above....ER work entailed many
cases of people doctoring themselves and end results thereof.
Thank you for caring enough to post this information. Btw, may I ask,
are you Hopitus?
It's probably academic anyway. On June 21 I have to have a follow up
appointment for my ovarian nasty by the surgeon who performed my op, so
he will see it anyway if all else fails and will know what to do about
it. He might like to tidy up his handiwork himself or perhaps refer me to
a colleague who specialises in repairing hernias. I'd prefer him to do
the latter actually...as he is a gynaecologist & obstetrician.
So there is a sort of fail-safe in place fortunately. If I don't get an
appointment at the hospital via my GP soon - which is now quite
unlikely - I'm certain to be seen within 5 weeks by my gynae, who I have
great faith in and I know he will sort it out.
He was *so* pleased that he'd managed to save my life (he thought he
wouldn't be able to originally and said I'd done far better than he had
ever hoped) purrs and prayers helped obviously!! that for something to go
wrong with me now would be a huge blow to his pride ;-)
Tweed
hoping this will truly be my last operation..

'Nipped is correct about bowel locations in body. Your stomach is deep, deep
under them, not near surface.
'Nipped's friend had what is is known as "adhesions" (blockage from scar
tissue -
usually from former surgery) which usually require surgery again, to
remove.....
Yes, I do care. I'm not a doctor and have no idea what your protrusion is,
I only said "if indeed" because you seem to think that dorky doc you saw
was "casual" to the max and you don't have much confidence in his say-so
in general...glad you're seeing the original surgeon again.
Yeah, that's my alter-ego, former "nick" I changed to a fake addy/nick
after total disgust w/spam from roaming 'bots that harvest addies to sell
to far-east crap spammers. Crap spam has dropped to almost nothing
since doing this action. Usenet is a fertile field for addy-harvesting
'bots.
And that, people who wonder why some of us use fake nicks, is why.
Not to mention the infamous "Nigerian" hold-my-cash scam....LOL.
I, too, have high hopes this will be a much less stressful and successful
last remedial surgery for you. Happy Meowmie's Day, Tweed.

On Thu, 11 May 2006 20:07:19 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

Well. (if I start a post with Well..it means I'm not best pleased.)

It is 5 weeks now since I consulted my doctor about my incisional hernia
from my previous surgery last year and I posted about what a useless
consultation it was from my point of view then, if you remember. The doctor
said he would refer me to the hospital for a repair. Oh well, wait a while
then.
I happened to be off work yesterday, so I phoned up to enquire about the
progress of my referral, since I'd heard nothing from the hospital. I
phoned a couple of times ( and anyone in the UK will know how long it takes
to get through eventually) and was unable to speak to anyone who could tell
me what I wanted to know.
So I went down to the surgery in person. I told the receptionist what I'd
come about and she fetched a nurse. I told the nurse what I'd come about,
and she said she needed to talk to the doctors secretary and would be back.
When she came back she said that the sec said she would do it tomorrow, they
looked on the computer and it just said "to be referred." However he
didn't bother to do it. He didn't tell the secretary to write a letter to
the hospital and so, in theory I would never have got my op.
Apparently it is now going to take at least 4 weeks until the hospital send
me an appointment to see a consultant, and that may be months away after
that.
I told the nurse I was not satisfied with the last consultation I had, I
told her the gist of it, and she agreed.
God only knows when I will eventually be well again. I hope they will not
operate on me in the winter, this will be difficult as I have to cart wood
for my heating.
Scales have your hernia done?get *very* cold Hmmm. Not sure.

Tweed
P.S. This is not the usual sort of hernia in the groin, this is one that is
poking through the incision I had last year for my ovarian ca. I think it's
my stomach that's popping out (gross, I know, sorry.)
If I was a doctor and a patient came to me with a hernia like that, I would
make damn sure she got seen to a.s.a.p.
Oh, it seems he *forgot.* That's okay then. NOT.
Am I being unreasonable? I feel quite angry about it.
Here's me with half my insides hanging out (well, maybe not exactly but it
*does* need attention) being dramatic here - and my doctor completely forgot
about referring me to hospital to get it sorted out.
I have no idea what would have happened if I hadn't gone down there today.
Well, nothing I suppose. I'd have been waiting to hear from the hospital
for months, and it would never have happened because my GP could not be
arsed to write to them.
Someone (Karen?) asked if he might be on drugs. I wouldn't like to think
so, but he doesn't act like I hope for when I need to see a doctor.
I didn't actually realise how awful my own doctors were until I had to see
an Occupational Health doctor through being off work for my eye ops. She
was brilliant, no comparison in how they are and how she was.

Tweed


Oh, Tweed, this is awful, and I am so sorry you are having to go
through this. I thought it was bad that I am *still* trying to get a
referral to an ob/gyn for my ovarian cyst, and my clinic seems to want
to refuse a referral. So I've temporarily given up, until I have a
little more energy, and then I'll probably do what you did, and go
down there in person, and demand to get the referral.

Anyway, I surely hope the wheels start moving swiftly and that you are
able to get this taken care of soon.

{{{{Tweed}}}}}

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