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Old March 25th 04, 06:19 AM
rob
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Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or more in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning, noon &
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement (squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob


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Old March 25th 04, 04:06 AM
Agua Girl
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"rob" wrote in message
news:gSu8c.901471$ts4.126373@pd7tw3no...
Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or more

in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning, noon

&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Get him a cat door. If he is safe in the back yard and you are comfortable
with him back there. that is.
He isn't "meowing"...he is communicating. He wants something and this is
his way of letting you know. If it's at a time of day when he can't be let
out, tell him no and then do your best to ignore him. No negative
reinforcement...just "no".
I talk to Sasha. Not just kitty talk but real talk. I tell her "No Sash,
no
going outside right now, I have to leave in 10 minutes but maybe when
I get back...etc.". Obviously she doesn't comprehend all that but it
seems like she gets the idea.
I am assuming your cat is neutered. (if not, that IS the problem). Does
he have adequate toys and climbing stuff inside? Could be he is yammering
all the time out of boredom.

AG


Rob




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Old March 25th 04, 03:09 PM
rob
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"Agua Girl" wrote in message
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"rob" wrote in message
news:gSu8c.901471$ts4.126373@pd7tw3no...
Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to

meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or

more
in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely

close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning,

noon
&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some

endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he

is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Get him a cat door. If he is safe in the back yard and you are

comfortable
with him back there. that is.
He isn't "meowing"...



Trust me - he's meowing...





he is communicating. He wants something and this is
his way of letting you know.



I know this.


If it's at a time of day when he can't be let
out, tell him no and then do your best to ignore him. No negative
reinforcement...just "no".


I porobably haven't expressed the scale of the problem properly. There is no
ignoring this - he will truly meow until he becomes hoarse. Literally, hours
on end.


I talk to Sasha. Not just kitty talk but real talk. I tell her "No Sash,
no
going outside right now, I have to leave in 10 minutes but maybe when
I get back...etc.". Obviously she doesn't comprehend all that but it
seems like she gets the idea.



We've pretty much been the same way his whole life.


I am assuming your cat is neutered. (if not, that IS the problem).



Yes, he is neutered.


Does
he have adequate toys and climbing stuff inside? Could be he is yammering
all the time out of boredom.


Plenty of toys & distractions....


Thx,

Rob



AG


Rob






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Old March 25th 04, 03:09 PM
rob
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"Agua Girl" wrote in message
...

"rob" wrote in message
news:gSu8c.901471$ts4.126373@pd7tw3no...
Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to

meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or

more
in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely

close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning,

noon
&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some

endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he

is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Get him a cat door. If he is safe in the back yard and you are

comfortable
with him back there. that is.
He isn't "meowing"...



Trust me - he's meowing...





he is communicating. He wants something and this is
his way of letting you know.



I know this.


If it's at a time of day when he can't be let
out, tell him no and then do your best to ignore him. No negative
reinforcement...just "no".


I porobably haven't expressed the scale of the problem properly. There is no
ignoring this - he will truly meow until he becomes hoarse. Literally, hours
on end.


I talk to Sasha. Not just kitty talk but real talk. I tell her "No Sash,
no
going outside right now, I have to leave in 10 minutes but maybe when
I get back...etc.". Obviously she doesn't comprehend all that but it
seems like she gets the idea.



We've pretty much been the same way his whole life.


I am assuming your cat is neutered. (if not, that IS the problem).



Yes, he is neutered.


Does
he have adequate toys and climbing stuff inside? Could be he is yammering
all the time out of boredom.


Plenty of toys & distractions....


Thx,

Rob



AG


Rob






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Old March 25th 04, 07:13 AM
'cedes
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PS...Here is another link, that goes with the ones that I sent in my
previous post; http://www.radiofence.com/cat_doors.htm
"rob" wrote in message
news:gSu8c.901471$ts4.126373@pd7tw3no...
Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or more

in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning, noon

&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob




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Old March 25th 04, 07:42 AM
'cedes
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Rob,
How about you make your back yard escape proof and let him out there as much
as he wants? In order to save your sanity, I am sending you some really good
links on how to make your yard escape-proof for your cat. Provide him with
an indoor-outdoor door, and the meowing will forever stop.
I feel your frustration, but I KNOW that there is an answer to be found in
the links below. By the way, no reputable vet will "de-meow" a cat. A shock
collar could easily give him a heart attack. Tethering him to something
could lead to strangulation. Consider the below links;
http://www.just4cats.com/page7.html
http://www.lisaviolet.com/cathouse/backyard.html

Screened-in veranda; http://www.cat-world.com.au/Veranda.jpg

http://www.catfencein.com/http://www...m/pictures.htm

http://www.feralcat.com/fence.html


http://www.friendlyfence.com/ff/prod...OVMTC=standard

Rob, let me know if I can provide you with any more help on this. One other
suggestion; How about a companion kitty for your cat? This is a sure-fire
solution. Good luck! Carol Take the nospam out of
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob"
Newsgroups: alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:19 PM
Subject: Help!!! Cats meows constantly


Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or more

in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning, noon

&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob



"rob" wrote in message
news:gSu8c.901471$ts4.126373@pd7tw3no...
Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or more

in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning, noon

&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob




  #7  
Old March 25th 04, 03:04 PM
rob
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"'cedes" wrote in message
...
Rob,
How about you make your back yard escape proof and let him out there as

much
as he wants?
In order to save your sanity, I am sending you some really good
links on how to make your yard escape-proof for your cat.



Thanks for the info.


Provide him with
an indoor-outdoor door, and the meowing will forever stop.



For a variety of reasons, this probably isn't feasible where I live. I'll
look into it, however...


I feel your frustration, but I KNOW that there is an answer to be found in
the links below. By the way, no reputable vet will "de-meow" a cat.



It's not something we would ever do anyways - I was really just underscoring
my frustration more than anything. There is a dog who lives across the way
who has been de-barked & while it's unspeakably (no pun intended) cruel, it
sometimes seems like a pretty attractive option.


A shock
collar could easily give him a heart attack.


Same as above...

Tethering him to something
could lead to strangulation.



The only time he is tethered is when we are in the room. Usually, one of us
is holding the leash - when we need the use of our hands we move the leash
to a chair leg, etc. We are very aware of the possibility of strangulation.


Consider the below links;
http://www.just4cats.com/page7.html
http://www.lisaviolet.com/cathouse/backyard.html

Screened-in veranda; http://www.cat-world.com.au/Veranda.jpg

http://www.catfencein.com/http://www...m/pictures.htm

http://www.feralcat.com/fence.html



http://www.friendlyfence.com/ff/prod...OVMTC=standard

Rob, let me know if I can provide you with any more help on this. One

other
suggestion; How about a companion kitty for your cat? This is a sure-fire
solution.



I wish it were - he's had a companion since we got him.



Good luck! Carol Take the nospam out of
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob"
Newsgroups: alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:19 PM
Subject: Help!!! Cats meows constantly


Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to

meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or

more
in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely

close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning,

noon
&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some

endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he

is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob



"rob" wrote in message
news:gSu8c.901471$ts4.126373@pd7tw3no...
Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to

meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or

more
in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely

close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning,

noon
&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some

endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he

is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob






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Old March 25th 04, 06:28 PM
AK
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"rob" wrote in message news:iyC8c.22$QO2.13@pd7tw1no...
I feel your frustration, but I KNOW that there is an answer to be found

in
the links below. By the way, no reputable vet will "de-meow" a cat.



It's not something we would ever do anyways - I was really just

underscoring
my frustration more than anything. There is a dog who lives across the way
who has been de-barked & while it's unspeakably (no pun intended) cruel,

it
sometimes seems like a pretty attractive option.


If it really is so bad that you even jest about considering something like
this, maybe you should consider rehoming him with someone who can tolerate
it more. Those of us that own oriental cats like Siamese or Bengals know
how to live with constant chatter from the cat!


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Old March 25th 04, 06:28 PM
AK
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"rob" wrote in message news:iyC8c.22$QO2.13@pd7tw1no...
I feel your frustration, but I KNOW that there is an answer to be found

in
the links below. By the way, no reputable vet will "de-meow" a cat.



It's not something we would ever do anyways - I was really just

underscoring
my frustration more than anything. There is a dog who lives across the way
who has been de-barked & while it's unspeakably (no pun intended) cruel,

it
sometimes seems like a pretty attractive option.


If it really is so bad that you even jest about considering something like
this, maybe you should consider rehoming him with someone who can tolerate
it more. Those of us that own oriental cats like Siamese or Bengals know
how to live with constant chatter from the cat!


  #10  
Old March 25th 04, 03:04 PM
rob
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Default


"'cedes" wrote in message
...
Rob,
How about you make your back yard escape proof and let him out there as

much
as he wants?
In order to save your sanity, I am sending you some really good
links on how to make your yard escape-proof for your cat.



Thanks for the info.


Provide him with
an indoor-outdoor door, and the meowing will forever stop.



For a variety of reasons, this probably isn't feasible where I live. I'll
look into it, however...


I feel your frustration, but I KNOW that there is an answer to be found in
the links below. By the way, no reputable vet will "de-meow" a cat.



It's not something we would ever do anyways - I was really just underscoring
my frustration more than anything. There is a dog who lives across the way
who has been de-barked & while it's unspeakably (no pun intended) cruel, it
sometimes seems like a pretty attractive option.


A shock
collar could easily give him a heart attack.


Same as above...

Tethering him to something
could lead to strangulation.



The only time he is tethered is when we are in the room. Usually, one of us
is holding the leash - when we need the use of our hands we move the leash
to a chair leg, etc. We are very aware of the possibility of strangulation.


Consider the below links;
http://www.just4cats.com/page7.html
http://www.lisaviolet.com/cathouse/backyard.html

Screened-in veranda; http://www.cat-world.com.au/Veranda.jpg

http://www.catfencein.com/http://www...m/pictures.htm

http://www.feralcat.com/fence.html



http://www.friendlyfence.com/ff/prod...OVMTC=standard

Rob, let me know if I can provide you with any more help on this. One

other
suggestion; How about a companion kitty for your cat? This is a sure-fire
solution.



I wish it were - he's had a companion since we got him.



Good luck! Carol Take the nospam out of
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob"
Newsgroups: alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:19 PM
Subject: Help!!! Cats meows constantly


Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to

meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or

more
in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely

close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning,

noon
&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some

endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he

is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob



"rob" wrote in message
news:gSu8c.901471$ts4.126373@pd7tw3no...
Hi All,

I'm about to go insane - our cat will not shut up. He's taken to

meowing,
literally, once every 2 seconds or so for up to an hour at a time or

more
in
an effort to get me to let him outside. He was an indoor cat for a long

time
until we moved to a house with a back yard that we could completely

close
off. Now, he wants nothing but to be outside, all the time. Morning,

noon
&
night he meows... constantly. It's like his brain is stuck in some

endless
loop. He is neither ill nor injured, btw. We never let him out when he

is
meowing, only when he's quiet & pleasant - it's our feeble attempt at
positive reinforcement. We're also attempting negative reinforcement

(squirt
him with a water pistol, soak his tail in the bath, tether him to the
furniture, etc, when he meows constantly), but nothing is working. We're
half starting to consider options like a shock collar or even de-meowing
surgery. Those are the last things we'd want to do, but honestly, we are

at
the end of our rope. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...


Rob






 




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