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  #131  
Old January 27th 12, 02:24 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Winnie
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On Jan 26, 8:19*pm, wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
* wrote in message

...* MaryL wrote:

*
* Do you like to read? *I have a Kindle, and I absolutely love it.. *I held
* off
* for a long time because I have always liked the feel of a book in my
* hands.
* Well, I got a lighted cover and that gives the feel of a book. *It can
* be
* balanced on my knees or on a pillow on my lap, so it's easy to use, land
* the
* light enables me to read in the dark if I lose power. *I can keep any
* number
* of books on it instead of carrying a stack of books around with me. *One
* problem with printed books in recent years is that publishers often
* print
* right up to the margin binding, so we almost have to bend some books in
* half
* to read. *That's not a problem with Kindle. *Finally, I love the fact
* that I
* can change the size of the font--just like with a computer--so I don't
* have
* to use reading glasses. *There are *lots* of free books available from
* amazon, in addition to the ones that are purchased. *The classics and
* books
* that are out of copyright are often free.
*
* Starting a new thread here. I have some questions about the Kindle. Can
* you
* get any book at all for the Kindle? It doesn't seem like that would be the
* case, since that would mean that every book in existence has been
* digitized,
* and I seriously doubt that. Many obscure movies never even made it to VHS
* tapes, much less DVD. Is it harder to find obscure or out-of-print books
* to
* read on the Kindle than it is to just hunt in used bookstores, or on the
* web?
*
* Second question - of the books that *have* been digitized, can all of them
* be read on the Kindle? Or can you only read books that have been digitized
* to a certain proprietary format for the Kindle? Are there competing
* devices
* that use different formats, which cannot be read on the Kindle, or vice-
* versa? (I really *hate* that!)
*
* Last, does Amazon have special arrangements with different publishers, and
* not with other publishers, so that you can only get the books from the
* ones
* that have a deal with Amazon? That's how it is with online movie
* streaming.
* You can buy an Internet-to-TV device (which allows you to watch streaming
* video from the 'net on your TV), but the company that makes that device
* has deals with different Internet providers of films (eg, Netflix, Hulu,
* etc) so you can access whatever movies those providers offer (for a fee),
* but you can't surf the web from your TV and watch any old video you come
* across. Actually, there are devices that allow that, but I'm focusing my
* question on the ones that don't, because I'm wondering if Amazon has the
* same kind of deal, where you can only get books from the publishers they
* have arrangements with. It so controlling. "If you buy our device, we will
* control what you can and can't have access to."
*

* And what point of changing *the title to "kindle" helps me?

The conversation about Kindles was an aside. Something in the original
thread made me think of it and I had some questions about them. But it
seemed disrespectful to go off on a tangent under the same subject
title, in which we were discussing your loss of smell and taste and your
CT scan and MRI, etc, which is a pretty serious topic. I don't know, Tweed,
if I had posted about something scary like that, I wouldn't want to come
to RPCA and see a whole ton of responses to my problem, only to discover
that most of the posts were about Kindles. It just seemed more respectful
to change the subject line so the side topic would be under a different
title.

In addition to changing the subject title, I also removed the references
from my first "Kindle" post. That way, my post should not have been tied
to your original thread. If it was, then I apologize. This has come up
before, and someone advised me to remove references so that I am truly
starting a new thread, not just changing the subject line. If that didn't
work, then I guess that advice wasn't any good. I can't test it myself
because I don't use threading at all. Every post I read is on the same
hierarchical level, appearing sequentially (although not always in the
order in which they were posted - but that can't be helped, as it depends
on the vagaries of the Internet).

If someone has a better solution for this, feel free to post. But I hope
it doesn't come down to "start a brand-new topic from scratch", because I
want to have quoted text from the post that brought up a side issue I
wanted to talk about. If I start from scratch, there's no quoted text.


How about copying the quoted text and paste in a new post with the
new topic?
Will that work?
Winnie
--
Joyce

I want freedom, the right to self expression, everyone's right to
beautiful radiant things. * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Emma Goldman


  #132  
Old January 27th 12, 02:27 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CatNipped[_4_]
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On 1/26/2012 8:04 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
Exactly. That was my intention. If my first "Kindle" post showed up
in the same thread as Tweed's post and related discussion, then I'm
not sure what I did wrong, as I followed advice that was posted here
the last time this issue came up.


Tweed is using Outlook Express, which behaves in a wildly nonstandard
way compared with other newsreaders. There's no way for anybody else
to post messages in such a way that the flow of communication looks
the same as it does to somebody using that system. So don't waste any
time and emotional energy trying.

Threading can't be consistent between newsreaders because the official
specification for Usenet messages doesn't define it completely. But
Outlook Express has always been the odd one out among all the many
newsreaders available for every platform.

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Actually I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird now and it threads the same way
as Outlook Express. I just bumps the threads around according to date
(e.g. when someone posts to an older thread it makes that thread first
in the queue).

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  #133  
Old January 27th 12, 03:31 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
[email protected]
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Winnie wrote:

If someone has a better solution for this, feel free to post. But I hope
it doesn't come down to "start a brand-new topic from scratch", because I
want to have quoted text from the post that brought up a side issue I
wanted to talk about. If I start from scratch, there's no quoted text.


How about copying the quoted text and paste in a new post with the
new topic?
Will that work?


I would do that if what I did before was unsuccessful. It seems as though
it was successful, though - if what Jack said is right.

--
Joyce

I prefer to live with Feline Sapiens, thank you very much.
  #134  
Old January 27th 12, 03:41 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Patok" wrote in message ...

MaryL wrote:
"CatNipped" wrote in message ...

Mary, the " - - - - - " you put on top of your post (to separate it
since it's not putting markers) is causing it to look like a
signature in my reader (it's defaulted out and not quoted when I
reply to you).


Thanks. I did not know that. Please let me know if the markers I
placed above this response work better.


Probably. It's still impossible to say, because you answered inside
CatNipped's signature area. Not only does your reader not put markers,
it does not remove the signature of the post it replies to either. You
left in place CatNipped's signature line - the two dashes "--", and
since you replied below that, it was all one giant signature again. If
you remove the signature, though, I think the new pattern might work.


And, of course, what I
really *should* do (and I have known it for a long time) is get a
better newsreader.


Indeed.

--
You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.
*
Whoever bans a book, shall be banished. Whoever burns a book, shall burn.



This raises a question that I have often wondered about. That is, how can
we interleave answers to specific questions or items and yet make it clear
that I am the author and not the OP? Sometimes, it becomes almost
impossible to discern, especially after a message goes through replies from
several people.

MaryL

  #135  
Old January 27th 12, 02:09 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 2012-01-24, Jack Campin wrote:
I like real books best too. However, I must admit that the book I'm
currently reading would be much easier to handle on a Kindle. I had
an especially hard time reading in bed last night (I just started it
yesterday). It's 11/22/63 by Stephen King. It's a very good book,
but it is humungous, and my hands aren't as strong as they used to be.


That suggests a truly grim possible development.

Books (particularly popular genre fiction) started to bloat as soon
as authors got their hands on word processors.


I've got a counter example: "Varney the Vampire". Two-thirds of a
million words in 1847. I've only read the bit that was excerpted in
Frayling's book. That was plenty.

Bud
  #136  
Old January 27th 12, 04:33 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On 2012-01-27 10:39 AM, William Hamblen wrote:
I've got a counter example: "Varney the Vampire". Two-thirds of a
million words in 1847. I've only read the bit that was excerpted in
Frayling's book. That was plenty.


Some of those writers got paid by the word. Sometimes that showed in the
finished book.

--
Cheryl
  #137  
Old January 27th 12, 07:15 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
MaryL[_2_]
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ...

On 2012-01-27 10:39 AM, William Hamblen wrote:
I've got a counter example: "Varney the Vampire". Two-thirds of a
million words in 1847. I've only read the bit that was excerpted in
Frayling's book. That was plenty.


Some of those writers got paid by the word. Sometimes that showed in the
finished book.

--
Cheryl



I was amazed, years ago, when I first looked at an original version of James
Madison's Notes on the Debates in the Federal Convention. I was astounded
at the great length and detail--and all written with a quill pen!

MaryL

  #138  
Old January 27th 12, 10:34 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:


when I am panicked about whether or not I have a brain tumour, it more than
ticks me off to see the the subject changed to "kindle"
I've had a CT scan and am waiting for results. I will get an MRI scan on
8th Feb. The MRI will be on my brain, I hope they find one.



  #139  
Old January 27th 12, 11:53 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Jack Campin
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when I am panicked about whether or not I have a brain tumour, it
more than ticks me off to see the the subject changed to "kindle"


Nobody but you sees the thread display for the group like that.

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  #140  
Old January 28th 12, 01:08 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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"Jack Campin" wrote in message
...
when I am panicked about whether or not I have a brain tumour, it
more than ticks me off to see the the subject changed to "kindle"


Nobody but you sees the thread display for the group like that.


I disagree, one of my friends said "you need to get control of "kindle"
thread as it's got away from helping you".
You may not see it, but I do.



 




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