Must Discuss the Kitties' Welfair

I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in
short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do
creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the broader
society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up
over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid texters,
now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried about the
advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee
"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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"Stormmee" wrote in message
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it must be difficult to be so pompus,
-the posts were cross posted, i didn't do that.
-take a lesson from mary l and jmc, choose not to read it, but don't be
abusive and rude about something you don't choose to participate in,
again read mary l's polite and thought ful post,

Lee.. who doesn't need to fill out a resume as she has been self
employeed for the last twenty years or so
"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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"jmc" wrote in message
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Suddenly, without warning, Stormmee exclaimed (7/25/2010 8:41 AM):
if you are referring to meowchat, please do not disparage something
you don't understand, if you are referring to something else please
ignore this post, Lee
"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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"Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message
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"nice guy" nice wrote in message
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What is 'Welfair'?

Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't
want to use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English,
but prefers to cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of
intentional gibberish.



What he's suggesting is this is not an appropriate place for meowchat.
I'm another one who chooses not to read it. No cheezburgers here

jmc

I usually don't either....For one thing, they top post, which also
annoys me....But I was answering some one else's comment with an
observation of my own. It must be very hard to write such
gibberish.....Also, it would tend to make correct spelling more
difficult, just in case you needed to spell something correctly.....Like
filling out a resume for a job as an English teacher. (for
example......:^)



Sorry its taken so long for me to reply to your posts.....I really don't
mean to be so "pompous". But there has been a movement over the last
twenty or thirty years to trash the traditional spelling of the English
language, and, "modernize it" into a faster, more streamlined format that
simplifies it and makes it easier to learn, as well as more phonetic to
read. I am against this movement for the following reason. The origins of
our words interests me greatly, and it is possible, from their spelling,
to ascertain their roots and history. English comes from not only Greek
and Latin origins, but also Germanic and Norse beginnings. It is true that
it is a, "Living language" in that it is always changing and taking on new
words, but many of these come from different languages and have a
"history" of their own. I really have nothing against misspelling for fun,
and I have seen many cleaver poems written in this way. Its just that one
of my hobbies has been trying to figure out the meanings of words from
their spelling subtleties, and I can visualize a day when this will be
impossible should the modernizers win out, so I do what I can to
discourage it.

"Stormmee" wrote in message
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I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in
short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do
creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the broader
society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up
over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid
texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried
about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee

Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all
English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and getting
worse all the time......

On Aug 2, 2:07*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
"Stormmee" wrote in message

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I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in
short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do
creative writing. *it is no more or less important than that to the broader
society or english written or spoken word. *if you want to get worked up
over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid
texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried
about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee

Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all
English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and getting
worse all the time......

Well, you can't blame the teachers for text message content.
The kids (and adults!) have kind of come up with that on their
own. :-)
Doesn't bother me as long as it's kept in the context of text
messaging.
Kind of a *******ized version of shorthand.
And as long as they know proper grammar, punctuation and
capitalization
when they need it. And I agree that's becoming a failing in our school
system.
Bad spelling, capitalization, etc. just screams "Correspondence with
you isn't important enough for me to use spellcheck" nowadays.

Sherry

"Sherry" wrote in message
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On Aug 2, 2:07 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
"Stormmee" wrote in message

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I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in
short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do
creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the
broader
society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up
over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid
texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried
about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee

Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all
English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and
getting
worse all the time......

Well, you can't blame the teachers for text message content.
The kids (and adults!) have kind of come up with that on their
own. :-)
Doesn't bother me as long as it's kept in the context of text
messaging.
Kind of a *******ized version of shorthand.
And as long as they know proper grammar, punctuation and
capitalization
when they need it. And I agree that's becoming a failing in our school
system.
Bad spelling, capitalization, etc. just screams "Correspondence with
you isn't important enough for me to use spellcheck" nowadays.

Sherry

Ah yes....Text messaging. I don't understand why the young set likes it so
much. To me, It is vastly inferior to just talking on the telephone. And,
because the world if full of idiots that do it while driving, and run off
the road and crash and burn, they make laws that prevent me from talking on
my cell phone while driving, because apparently, the lawmakers can't tell
the difference between talking, and reading.....I have spent my life driving
while talking. I do it with passengers, with the radio, and with citizens
band transceivers in trucks.
but now, because some idiots try to read the tiny printing on their cell
phone screens while driving, I can't answer my cell phone while in my car
anymore! The other day, When I was on my way to pick up a friend, he phoned
me to tell me he couldn't make it, and I stopped right in the middle of an
intersection to answer my cell phone, much to the disgust of everyone else
on the road.....I wonder how long it will take to get the lawmakers to
realize that there is a difference between talking and reading.......

"Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote in message
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if you want to get worked up over something go and read the text
messages of a few teens or avid texters, now that is something to
get worked up over if you are worried about the advancement of any
written or spoken word, Lee
Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them
all English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable,
and getting worse all the time......

Some day the education system and the folks who see themselves as the
guardians of the English language (and, I guess, every other language in
the world that has mobile phone coverage) are going to have to negotiate.

Thanks to texting, we are now in an age of historically unparalleled
literacy. There has never been a time when so many people have been
writing anything remotely like as much to each other as they are now.
So of course our writing systems will have to change. It would be
better if we were all using something like Pitman shorthand, so there'd
be no need to abbrvi8, but we're stuck with where we are, and txtspk is
on the way towards reinventing something like that.

You'd think teachers would see such an enormous leap forward in mass
literacy as something to celebrate and make creative use of. Not many
do.

I wonder why the cell phone manufacturers don't make a cell phone that uses
shorthand like the courtroom reporters use. That way, the teenagers might
learn something that's actually useful while they are talking to one
another.

On Aug 2, 9:03*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
"Sherry" wrote in message

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On Aug 2, 2:07 pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:





"Stormmee" wrote in message

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I too love words, but that has no relationship to meow chat, rpcc is in
short the cats version of narnia or harry potter, it is just a way to do
creative writing. it is no more or less important than that to the
broader
society or english written or spoken word. if you want to get worked up
over something go and read the text messages of a few teens or avid
texters, now that is something to get worked up over if you are worried
about the advancement of any written or spoken word, Lee

Tell me about it.....I raised three myself, and I had to teach them all
English, (as well as maths) Our teachers here are unbelievable, and
getting
worse all the time......

Well, you can't blame the teachers for text message content.
The kids (and adults!) have kind of come up with that on their
own. :-)
Doesn't bother me as long as it's kept in the context of text
messaging.
Kind of a *******ized version of shorthand.
And as long as they know proper grammar, punctuation and
capitalization
when they need it. And I agree that's becoming a failing in our school
system.
Bad spelling, capitalization, etc. just screams "Correspondence with
you isn't important enough for me to use spellcheck" nowadays.

Sherry

Ah yes....Text messaging. I don't understand why the young set likes it so
much. To me, It is vastly inferior to just talking on the telephone. And,
because the world if full of idiots that do it while driving, and run off
the road and crash and burn, they make laws that prevent me from talking on
my cell phone while driving, because apparently, the lawmakers can't tell
the difference between talking, and reading.....I have spent my life driving
while talking. I do it with passengers, with the radio, and with citizens
band transceivers in trucks.
but now, because some idiots try to read the tiny printing on their cell
phone screens while driving, I can't answer my cell phone while in my car
anymore! The other day, When I was on my way to pick up a friend, he phoned
me to tell me he couldn't make it, and I stopped right in the middle of an
intersection to answer my cell phone, much to the disgust of everyone else
on the road.....I wonder how long it will take to get the lawmakers to
realize that there is a difference between talking and reading.......- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's completely insane for one to think they can send and/or read
text messages while driving, safely. But they *think* they can!
And just to make us both sound like grouchy old people (to them)...
I think we're raising a nation of young people who are all going to
need carpal tunnel surgery before they're 30.
I never answer my cell phone in the car. Whoever it is can wait until
I can pull over, stop the car, and call them back. That's what caller
ID
is for. If I *do* send a text message, I take the extra (seconds!!) to
send it in proper English. I don't have it in me to deliberately
sound ignorant. I wrote and proofread for a living once. I don't
dumb down to save a few seconds.
Sherry

"Bill Graham" wrote:
Ah yes....Text messaging. I don't understand why the young set likes it so
much. To me, It is vastly inferior to just talking on the telephone. And,
because the world if full of idiots that do it while driving, and run off
the road and crash and burn, they make laws that prevent me from talking on
my cell phone while driving, because apparently, the lawmakers can't tell
the difference between talking, and reading.....I have spent my life driving
while talking. I do it with passengers, with the radio, and with citizens
band transceivers in trucks.

In the field of psychology and usability design, there were some
interesting studies done on the difference between a driver conversing
with passengers, and a driver conversing on a mobile phone. It was
found that conversing on a phone is far more distracting, and
passengers actually helped enhance safety somewhat, by also paying
attention to the road.

Sherry wrote:
is for. If I *do* send a text message, I take the extra (seconds!!) to
send it in proper English. I don't have it in me to deliberately
sound ignorant. I wrote and proofread for a living once. I don't
dumb down to save a few seconds.

I once actually got a job application with a cover letter that
concluded, "Hope to hear from u soon."

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:31 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote:


"Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message
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"nice guy" nice wrote in message
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What is 'Welfair'?

Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't want to
use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English, but prefers to
cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of intentional gibberish.

What? You not only post in English, I would bet you use your real
name.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:31 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote:


"Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message
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"nice guy" nice wrote in message
...
What is 'Welfair'?

Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't
want to use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English,
but prefers to cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of
intentional gibberish.

What? You not only post in English, I would bet you use your real
name.

Casady

If you are talking to me, then yes. Of course I use my real name. Why would
anyone not use his/her real name when posting on usenet, unless they are a
troll who is too chicken to stand behind whatever he/she posts. I post the
truth as well as I know it to be, and stand behind everything I say. When I
find out I am wrong about something, then I post the correction. (Except
there are usually a thousand trolls who jump on my mistake before I get the
chance....:^)