What can I do for Baby Eyes?

Her skin is very irritated whith scaly sores that never heal, all over her
neck, head, chest and shoulders, and even a little bit on her butt area.
We've tried steroids and Ovaban, anti-fungal and antibiotic creams, various
herbal soothing salves and oils. It isn't a flea allergy because she has no
fleas. It's not mange. The hormone replacement didn't do the trick, and even
when we get the itching under control, the sores do not heal. The local vets
have given up, and I'm about at wits' end over this. It's been going on
intermittently for a year or so and the current round started in June. She's
a mess.

In Chinese medicine the skin is said to be governed by the kidneys. Even
western medicine acknowledges the skin as the "3rd kidney" so I'm wondering
if she might have weak kidneys, and if so, what do I to give her to
strengthen them, or stop giving her to stop hurting them.

Has anyone here dealt with this kind of problem?

in article , Pat at
wrote on 8/23/04 6:28 PM:

Her skin is very irritated whith scaly sores that never heal, all over her
neck, head, chest and shoulders, and even a little bit on her butt area.
We've tried steroids and Ovaban, anti-fungal and antibiotic creams, various
herbal soothing salves and oils. It isn't a flea allergy because she has no
fleas. It's not mange. The hormone replacement didn't do the trick, and even
when we get the itching under control, the sores do not heal. The local vets
have given up, and I'm about at wits' end over this. It's been going on
intermittently for a year or so and the current round started in June. She's
a mess.

In Chinese medicine the skin is said to be governed by the kidneys. Even
western medicine acknowledges the skin as the "3rd kidney" so I'm wondering
if she might have weak kidneys, and if so, what do I to give her to
strengthen them, or stop giving her to stop hurting them.

Has anyone here dealt with this kind of problem?


Skin problems are SO difficult I know Shamrock (Cheryl's b & w) has a
terrible time with it but his seem to respond to steroids. Could you afford
to have your vet consult with a university? THere might be other types of
steroids to try. Poor Baby Eyes. That must be miserable.

in article , Pat at
wrote on 8/23/04 6:28 PM:

Her skin is very irritated whith scaly sores that never heal, all over her
neck, head, chest and shoulders, and even a little bit on her butt area.
We've tried steroids and Ovaban, anti-fungal and antibiotic creams, various
herbal soothing salves and oils. It isn't a flea allergy because she has no
fleas. It's not mange. The hormone replacement didn't do the trick, and even
when we get the itching under control, the sores do not heal. The local vets
have given up, and I'm about at wits' end over this. It's been going on
intermittently for a year or so and the current round started in June. She's
a mess.

In Chinese medicine the skin is said to be governed by the kidneys. Even
western medicine acknowledges the skin as the "3rd kidney" so I'm wondering
if she might have weak kidneys, and if so, what do I to give her to
strengthen them, or stop giving her to stop hurting them.

Has anyone here dealt with this kind of problem?


Skin problems are SO difficult I know Shamrock (Cheryl's b & w) has a
terrible time with it but his seem to respond to steroids. Could you afford
to have your vet consult with a university? THere might be other types of
steroids to try. Poor Baby Eyes. That must be miserable.

in article , Pat at
wrote on 8/23/04 6:28 PM:

Her skin is very irritated whith scaly sores that never heal, all over her
neck, head, chest and shoulders, and even a little bit on her butt area.
We've tried steroids and Ovaban, anti-fungal and antibiotic creams, various
herbal soothing salves and oils. It isn't a flea allergy because she has no
fleas. It's not mange. The hormone replacement didn't do the trick, and even
when we get the itching under control, the sores do not heal. The local vets
have given up, and I'm about at wits' end over this. It's been going on
intermittently for a year or so and the current round started in June. She's
a mess.

In Chinese medicine the skin is said to be governed by the kidneys. Even
western medicine acknowledges the skin as the "3rd kidney" so I'm wondering
if she might have weak kidneys, and if so, what do I to give her to
strengthen them, or stop giving her to stop hurting them.

Has anyone here dealt with this kind of problem?


Skin problems are SO difficult I know Shamrock (Cheryl's b & w) has a
terrible time with it but his seem to respond to steroids. Could you afford
to have your vet consult with a university? THere might be other types of
steroids to try. Poor Baby Eyes. That must be miserable.

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...
Skin problems are SO difficult I know Shamrock (Cheryl's b & w) has a
terrible time with it but his seem to respond to steroids. Could you
afford
to have your vet consult with a university? THere might be other types of
steroids to try. Poor Baby Eyes. That must be miserable.


The vets here say I could spend $15,000 getting a diagnosis and they still
wouldn't be able to cure it.

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...
Skin problems are SO difficult I know Shamrock (Cheryl's b & w) has a
terrible time with it but his seem to respond to steroids. Could you
afford
to have your vet consult with a university? THere might be other types of
steroids to try. Poor Baby Eyes. That must be miserable.


The vets here say I could spend $15,000 getting a diagnosis and they still
wouldn't be able to cure it.

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...
Skin problems are SO difficult I know Shamrock (Cheryl's b & w) has a
terrible time with it but his seem to respond to steroids. Could you
afford
to have your vet consult with a university? THere might be other types of
steroids to try. Poor Baby Eyes. That must be miserable.


The vets here say I could spend $15,000 getting a diagnosis and they still
wouldn't be able to cure it.

In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "Pat"
artfully composed this message
within on 23 Aug 2004:

Has anyone here dealt with this kind of problem?

It is just miserable for them! What was the frequency of the
steroid? And was it injectable or oral? I don't like to say
steroids are the answer, but sometimes they are the only thing that
stops the misery. I hate to say it but I wouldn't trade a long life
for a miserable life, so Shamrock is probably doomed to die young
from side-effects, but I've also read that cats metabolize steroids
better than some other animals including humans. During the months
of May/June through mid Fall, Shamrock has to get a jab of Depo
Medrol every other month. During the winter months he can go
longer, up to 3-4 months before he is miserable again. I've tried
giving him vitamins with Omega 3 and 6 essential fatty acids, tried
antihistamines for a while (and a combination of both recommended
on some vet web sites) but they only made him sleepy and so un-
Shamrock-like that it was sad. During the summer months I bathe him
(he actually likes getting baths) alternating Hydrocortizone
shampoo, and colloidal oatmeal shampoo (in the dog section of
Petco/Petsmart; bottle says safe for cats too). When rinsing the
shampoo, use cool water because cool water will ease itching much
longer than warm water. Follow directions because they both will
say it works better if the shampoo is allowed to sit on the skin
for 3-5 minutes. I use this time with Shamrock lathered up to talk
to him and rub the shampoo in, and he loves this. Like bonding
time. Drying with a towel he hates and will spend the next two
hours licking himself dry. Shamrock was diagnosed with idiopathic
EGC. (eosinophilic granuloma complex )

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proce...WSAVA2002&PID=
2544

--
Cheryl

In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "Pat"
artfully composed this message
within on 23 Aug 2004:

Has anyone here dealt with this kind of problem?

It is just miserable for them! What was the frequency of the
steroid? And was it injectable or oral? I don't like to say
steroids are the answer, but sometimes they are the only thing that
stops the misery. I hate to say it but I wouldn't trade a long life
for a miserable life, so Shamrock is probably doomed to die young
from side-effects, but I've also read that cats metabolize steroids
better than some other animals including humans. During the months
of May/June through mid Fall, Shamrock has to get a jab of Depo
Medrol every other month. During the winter months he can go
longer, up to 3-4 months before he is miserable again. I've tried
giving him vitamins with Omega 3 and 6 essential fatty acids, tried
antihistamines for a while (and a combination of both recommended
on some vet web sites) but they only made him sleepy and so un-
Shamrock-like that it was sad. During the summer months I bathe him
(he actually likes getting baths) alternating Hydrocortizone
shampoo, and colloidal oatmeal shampoo (in the dog section of
Petco/Petsmart; bottle says safe for cats too). When rinsing the
shampoo, use cool water because cool water will ease itching much
longer than warm water. Follow directions because they both will
say it works better if the shampoo is allowed to sit on the skin
for 3-5 minutes. I use this time with Shamrock lathered up to talk
to him and rub the shampoo in, and he loves this. Like bonding
time. Drying with a towel he hates and will spend the next two
hours licking himself dry. Shamrock was diagnosed with idiopathic
EGC. (eosinophilic granuloma complex )

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proce...WSAVA2002&PID=
2544

--
Cheryl

In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.anecdotes", "Pat"
artfully composed this message
within on 23 Aug 2004:

Has anyone here dealt with this kind of problem?

It is just miserable for them! What was the frequency of the
steroid? And was it injectable or oral? I don't like to say
steroids are the answer, but sometimes they are the only thing that
stops the misery. I hate to say it but I wouldn't trade a long life
for a miserable life, so Shamrock is probably doomed to die young
from side-effects, but I've also read that cats metabolize steroids
better than some other animals including humans. During the months
of May/June through mid Fall, Shamrock has to get a jab of Depo
Medrol every other month. During the winter months he can go
longer, up to 3-4 months before he is miserable again. I've tried
giving him vitamins with Omega 3 and 6 essential fatty acids, tried
antihistamines for a while (and a combination of both recommended
on some vet web sites) but they only made him sleepy and so un-
Shamrock-like that it was sad. During the summer months I bathe him
(he actually likes getting baths) alternating Hydrocortizone
shampoo, and colloidal oatmeal shampoo (in the dog section of
Petco/Petsmart; bottle says safe for cats too). When rinsing the
shampoo, use cool water because cool water will ease itching much
longer than warm water. Follow directions because they both will
say it works better if the shampoo is allowed to sit on the skin
for 3-5 minutes. I use this time with Shamrock lathered up to talk
to him and rub the shampoo in, and he loves this. Like bonding
time. Drying with a towel he hates and will spend the next two
hours licking himself dry. Shamrock was diagnosed with idiopathic
EGC. (eosinophilic granuloma complex )

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proce...WSAVA2002&PID=
2544

--
Cheryl