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Old August 19th 12, 11:37 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Bastette
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MatSav geeked out and went all literal on me:

"Bastette" wrote in message


I guess you didn't have trouble with that? And riding through
Manhattan, you're far from the tallest thing around, so you're
not going to be a lightening rod.


fx: Warning siren: thread convergence


What is the purpose of a lightening rod? Does it, for instance,
change a visual attribute of a dark blue painted surface to make
it appear to be a light blue painted surface? :-)


On the other hand, the purpose of a lightning rod is explained
he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_rod :-)


/fx


OK, OK - but surely you got my point, didn't you?

What's all this about dark blue and light blue?

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Whenever you feel anger, you should say, "May I be free of this
anger!" This rarely works, but talking to yourself in public will
encourage others to leave you alone.
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Old August 20th 12, 02:05 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:54:54 +0000 (UTC), Bastette
wrote:

dgk wrote:

We had very odd thunderstorms in NYC on Wednesday. Since I often
commute by bike I was keeping an eye on the radar and the storms just
kept popping up over eastern New Jersey and heading right into
Manhattan. It looked like there was a break around 4pm so I hopped on
the bike and started pedaling madly for home. But it just kept raining
and got so bad that it became a flash flood advisory.


I did put on a rainjacket I keep handy, mostly because it was getting
cold but the rest of me was light shorts and sandels. I rode through
as much as 8" of water where cars and trucks were at a dead stop. What
a mess. But you can only get so wet and then the water just rolls off,
and eventually you will dry.


I don't recall my mom ever explictly telling me not to ride a bike in
thunderstorms but it was probably implied.


Wow. I've ridden a bike through pouring rain (for hours, once), but not
through a flood. I would be worried about my brakes not working. I guess
you didn't have trouble with that? And riding through Manhattan, you're
far from the tallest thing around, so you're not going to be a lightening
rod.


I wasn't moving fast enough to really worry about the brakes, but
they're disc brakes and seemed to be unaffected. This wasn't in
Manhattan though. I generally exit Manhattan fairly quickly via the
Williamsburg Bridge so I was mostly getting doused in Brooklyn and it
started letting up by the time I was in Queens.

I heard somewhere that it is ok to be in fresh water if lightning is
around, that the current actually flows through the salt in salt
water. But I wasn't really interested in trying any experiments.
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Old August 20th 12, 09:04 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
MatSav[_2_]
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"dgk" wrote in message
news
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I heard somewhere that it is ok to be in fresh water if
lightning is
around, that the current actually flows through the salt in
salt
water....


The salts dissolved in sea water allow for ion transfer, and thus
do provide better electrical conductivity than 'fresh' water.
However, even 'fresh' water will contain dissolved minerals that
can allow ionic currents to flow. The primary ion transfer
element in most fresh water supplies is likely to be calcium or
magnesium. Deionised or distilled water has almost zero
electrical conductivity.

...But I wasn't really interested in trying any experiments.


Of course not - unlike Benjamin Franklin and his kite!

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Old August 20th 12, 09:15 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Bastette
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MatSav wrote:

"dgk" wrote in message
news
...
I heard somewhere that it is ok to be in fresh water if
lightning is
around, that the current actually flows through the salt in
salt
water....


The salts dissolved in sea water allow for ion transfer, and thus
do provide better electrical conductivity than 'fresh' water.
However, even 'fresh' water will contain dissolved minerals that
can allow ionic currents to flow. The primary ion transfer
element in most fresh water supplies is likely to be calcium or
magnesium. Deionised or distilled water has almost zero
electrical conductivity.


But something must conduct electricity in bath water, when an electrical
appliance falls into the tub where someone is bathing.

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Joyce

And for those who are constitutional originalists and worry about
mustering a militia, let's go with what the founding fathers had -
allow them muskets! -- NancyE

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Old August 20th 12, 10:22 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
MatSav[_2_]
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"Bastette" wrote in message

MatSav wrote:

"dgk" wrote in message
news
...
I heard somewhere that it is ok to be in fresh water if
lightning is
around, that the current actually flows through the salt in
salt
water....


The salts dissolved in sea water allow for ion transfer, and
thus
do provide better electrical conductivity than 'fresh' water.
However, even 'fresh' water will contain dissolved minerals
that
can allow ionic currents to flow. The primary ion transfer
element in most fresh water supplies is likely to be calcium
or
magnesium. Deionised or distilled water has almost zero
electrical conductivity.


But something must conduct electricity in bath water, when an
electrical appliance falls into the tub where someone is
bathing.


That's what I tried to say. With a domestic "fresh" water supply,
it''l have variable concentrations of dissolved minerals - such
as calcium, magnesium, iron, copper, lead, and zinc. These are
*all* metals, which can be ionised and conduct electricity - as
can the free chlorine added as a cleansing agent (which isn't a
metal, if I remember correctly - but it can still be ionised).

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MatSav


 




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