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Old September 24th 03, 02:53 AM
Steve Crane
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"Mary" wrote in message .. .
"Kitten M" wrote in message
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Please help my research for cat food. Before lots of people started
feeding their cat commercial cat food, (crunchy type or canned food)
what were they feeding their cat?
Is there such a thing like a traditional "home made" cat food?


Sure. It's called "table scraps." Dogs lived on it too, somehow.


But alas not for very long. Modern commercially prepared foods, good
veterinary care and routine vaccinations have vastly extended the life
of domestic pets.
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Old September 24th 03, 05:13 AM
Mary
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dgk said:

I suppose cats and dogs became domesticated when people threw them
scraps of food from their fire. I could see doing that with a wolf,
but with a big cat? I'm not so sure about that.


What an interesting question you raise. I think it was the Egyptians who
first domesticated the cat? But I'm not sure. I seem to remember that they
were
already a breed by the time the "New World" was discovered in the late
1500s.

Great idea for some research!


  #33  
Old September 24th 03, 05:13 AM
Mary
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dgk said:

I suppose cats and dogs became domesticated when people threw them
scraps of food from their fire. I could see doing that with a wolf,
but with a big cat? I'm not so sure about that.


What an interesting question you raise. I think it was the Egyptians who
first domesticated the cat? But I'm not sure. I seem to remember that they
were
already a breed by the time the "New World" was discovered in the late
1500s.

Great idea for some research!


  #34  
Old September 24th 03, 05:13 AM
Mary
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dgk said:

I suppose cats and dogs became domesticated when people threw them
scraps of food from their fire. I could see doing that with a wolf,
but with a big cat? I'm not so sure about that.


What an interesting question you raise. I think it was the Egyptians who
first domesticated the cat? But I'm not sure. I seem to remember that they
were
already a breed by the time the "New World" was discovered in the late
1500s.

Great idea for some research!


  #35  
Old September 24th 03, 07:55 AM
Phil P.
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"Mary" wrote in message
...
dgk said:

I suppose cats and dogs became domesticated when people threw them
scraps of food from their fire. I could see doing that with a wolf,
but with a big cat? I'm not so sure about that.


What an interesting question you raise. I think it was the Egyptians who
first domesticated the cat? But I'm not sure. I seem to remember that they
were
already a breed by the time the "New World" was discovered in the late
1500s.

Great idea for some research!


There's very strong evidence that supports the theory that domestication of
Felis silvestris libyca (African Wildcat) -- which produced Felis catus
libyca ("domectic" cat) -- began over 6,000 years ago in Egypt. The
original reason for domestication of the African wild cat was for rodent
control in the granaries rather than for pets.

The first step towards domestication began with the cats that tolerated the
close proximity of other cats (conspecific-tolerant) in the graaries --
highly territorial cats wouldn't have been very successful in controlling
the large number of rodents. .

The next step was selecting those cats from the original
conspecific-tolerant population that displayed affiliative behavior towards
people. Those affiliative behaviors could have been refined further by
breeding only within that population. This "selective breeding" would have
..produced kittens which inherited their parents' more sociable tendencies.
After a few generations, the Egyptians "created" a "new" cat that was human
and conspecific-tolerant

The process of creating this "new" cat might have made her even more
accepting of members of her own species. Maybe that's why when some cats
become feral, they're able to form independent social groups.

I shake my head in amazement when I read articles that say the domestic cat
is a solitary creature! I wonder if those authors ever lived with or even
saw real live cats! They should manage a few feral colonies....


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Old September 24th 03, 07:55 AM
Phil P.
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"Mary" wrote in message
...
dgk said:

I suppose cats and dogs became domesticated when people threw them
scraps of food from their fire. I could see doing that with a wolf,
but with a big cat? I'm not so sure about that.


What an interesting question you raise. I think it was the Egyptians who
first domesticated the cat? But I'm not sure. I seem to remember that they
were
already a breed by the time the "New World" was discovered in the late
1500s.

Great idea for some research!


There's very strong evidence that supports the theory that domestication of
Felis silvestris libyca (African Wildcat) -- which produced Felis catus
libyca ("domectic" cat) -- began over 6,000 years ago in Egypt. The
original reason for domestication of the African wild cat was for rodent
control in the granaries rather than for pets.

The first step towards domestication began with the cats that tolerated the
close proximity of other cats (conspecific-tolerant) in the graaries --
highly territorial cats wouldn't have been very successful in controlling
the large number of rodents. .

The next step was selecting those cats from the original
conspecific-tolerant population that displayed affiliative behavior towards
people. Those affiliative behaviors could have been refined further by
breeding only within that population. This "selective breeding" would have
..produced kittens which inherited their parents' more sociable tendencies.
After a few generations, the Egyptians "created" a "new" cat that was human
and conspecific-tolerant

The process of creating this "new" cat might have made her even more
accepting of members of her own species. Maybe that's why when some cats
become feral, they're able to form independent social groups.

I shake my head in amazement when I read articles that say the domestic cat
is a solitary creature! I wonder if those authors ever lived with or even
saw real live cats! They should manage a few feral colonies....


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Old September 24th 03, 07:55 AM
Phil P.
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"Mary" wrote in message
...
dgk said:

I suppose cats and dogs became domesticated when people threw them
scraps of food from their fire. I could see doing that with a wolf,
but with a big cat? I'm not so sure about that.


What an interesting question you raise. I think it was the Egyptians who
first domesticated the cat? But I'm not sure. I seem to remember that they
were
already a breed by the time the "New World" was discovered in the late
1500s.

Great idea for some research!


There's very strong evidence that supports the theory that domestication of
Felis silvestris libyca (African Wildcat) -- which produced Felis catus
libyca ("domectic" cat) -- began over 6,000 years ago in Egypt. The
original reason for domestication of the African wild cat was for rodent
control in the granaries rather than for pets.

The first step towards domestication began with the cats that tolerated the
close proximity of other cats (conspecific-tolerant) in the graaries --
highly territorial cats wouldn't have been very successful in controlling
the large number of rodents. .

The next step was selecting those cats from the original
conspecific-tolerant population that displayed affiliative behavior towards
people. Those affiliative behaviors could have been refined further by
breeding only within that population. This "selective breeding" would have
..produced kittens which inherited their parents' more sociable tendencies.
After a few generations, the Egyptians "created" a "new" cat that was human
and conspecific-tolerant

The process of creating this "new" cat might have made her even more
accepting of members of her own species. Maybe that's why when some cats
become feral, they're able to form independent social groups.

I shake my head in amazement when I read articles that say the domestic cat
is a solitary creature! I wonder if those authors ever lived with or even
saw real live cats! They should manage a few feral colonies....


  #38  
Old September 24th 03, 07:58 AM
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"Steve Crane" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P." wrote in message

...
"Kitten M" wrote in message
...
Please help my research for cat food. Before lots of people started
feeding their cat commercial cat food, (crunchy type or canned food)
what were they feeding their cat?
Is there such a thing like a traditional "home made" cat food?

If you were living with a cat/cats back in those days, what did you
usually end up feeding them?


.................................................. ...........................
......


"Back in those days" (before commercial pet foods were manufactured)

were
the 1860s! (Steve probably remembers those days).


Hey watch those cheap shots. :-)


I owed you one.

I may be old but I ain't quite senile yet.


The good thing about senility is that when you beome senile, you won't know
it!


I do however remember when
grocery stores did not sell pet foods.


The first pet food sold in grocery stores were Milk Bone dog biscuits.


I also remember the late 50's
and early 60's before we knew that rancid pet food would kill so many
cats. Fortunately a wonder drug came along and saved literally
millions of cats from dying of ingesting rancid fats.


Yup. ..but the fanatics don't want to know about that because it conflicts
with their agenda...


What was once
the most common cause of death and admission to veterinary clinics was
wiped out in a little less than a year.


That just proves how ignorant fanatics can turn a god-send into a "poison"
with scare tactics and rumors, and how gullible the general population is...



  #39  
Old September 24th 03, 07:58 AM
Phil P.
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"Steve Crane" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P." wrote in message

...
"Kitten M" wrote in message
...
Please help my research for cat food. Before lots of people started
feeding their cat commercial cat food, (crunchy type or canned food)
what were they feeding their cat?
Is there such a thing like a traditional "home made" cat food?

If you were living with a cat/cats back in those days, what did you
usually end up feeding them?


.................................................. ...........................
......


"Back in those days" (before commercial pet foods were manufactured)

were
the 1860s! (Steve probably remembers those days).


Hey watch those cheap shots. :-)


I owed you one.

I may be old but I ain't quite senile yet.


The good thing about senility is that when you beome senile, you won't know
it!


I do however remember when
grocery stores did not sell pet foods.


The first pet food sold in grocery stores were Milk Bone dog biscuits.


I also remember the late 50's
and early 60's before we knew that rancid pet food would kill so many
cats. Fortunately a wonder drug came along and saved literally
millions of cats from dying of ingesting rancid fats.


Yup. ..but the fanatics don't want to know about that because it conflicts
with their agenda...


What was once
the most common cause of death and admission to veterinary clinics was
wiped out in a little less than a year.


That just proves how ignorant fanatics can turn a god-send into a "poison"
with scare tactics and rumors, and how gullible the general population is...



  #40  
Old September 24th 03, 07:58 AM
Phil P.
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"Steve Crane" wrote in message
om...
"Phil P." wrote in message

...
"Kitten M" wrote in message
...
Please help my research for cat food. Before lots of people started
feeding their cat commercial cat food, (crunchy type or canned food)
what were they feeding their cat?
Is there such a thing like a traditional "home made" cat food?

If you were living with a cat/cats back in those days, what did you
usually end up feeding them?


.................................................. ...........................
......


"Back in those days" (before commercial pet foods were manufactured)

were
the 1860s! (Steve probably remembers those days).


Hey watch those cheap shots. :-)


I owed you one.

I may be old but I ain't quite senile yet.


The good thing about senility is that when you beome senile, you won't know
it!


I do however remember when
grocery stores did not sell pet foods.


The first pet food sold in grocery stores were Milk Bone dog biscuits.


I also remember the late 50's
and early 60's before we knew that rancid pet food would kill so many
cats. Fortunately a wonder drug came along and saved literally
millions of cats from dying of ingesting rancid fats.


Yup. ..but the fanatics don't want to know about that because it conflicts
with their agenda...


What was once
the most common cause of death and admission to veterinary clinics was
wiped out in a little less than a year.


That just proves how ignorant fanatics can turn a god-send into a "poison"
with scare tactics and rumors, and how gullible the general population is...



 




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