I got some bad news this morning about Rumble

"William Hamblen" wrote in message
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On 2006-07-02, Marina wrote:

I was away, so missed this discussion, but I'm glad to see
that Howard jumped in here and pointed out that what you are
all talking about is type II diabetes. I have type I, but
people only tend to be aware of type II (because the media
keeps telling the public that "if you do this or that, you'll
get diabetes" without specifying that they're talking about
type II), so I have to explain a lot (no, it won't go away if
I 'start' eating right (as if I haven't the past 36 years),
no, exercise won't cure me, no my pancreas hasn't produced any
insulin in 36 years, it's hardly going to start now) if I say
I have diabetes. Often, I rather just don't tell people I have
diabetes. It's much easier. Besides, (healthy) people tend to
only see you as a walking disease and nothing else. ;o)

Type II is a lot more common than type I, so I guess that is
what most people know about.

Type I diabetes is not incompatible with being "healthy". I
know a man with type I diabetes who is in his 80s and is still
going strong. I think the people with type I diabetes tend to
do better than the ones with type II.


It varies. Some handle the "rules" and others just can't. Some are more
plagued by complications than others.

My cousin followed the too familiar path. And was a blind alcoholic
musician when he died at thirty. He just couldn't handle it once he was an
adult and had to deal with it on his own.

(And yes there is a reason that path is common. Many diabetics have a
serious problem with their eyesight. So music is often an interest.
Something you won't lose if you can't see. Something you can still do. But
making a living with music is commonly done in clubs and bars. Hard to live
a different life from the company you keep no matter what you promise
yourself.)

Jo

Marina wrote:
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:


Type II diabetes involves quite a few complex mechanisms,but the idea
that
the pancreas loses the capability to secrete insulin is just plain wrong.
Type II diabetes is not, as is Type I, a disease of insulin shortage.


I was away, so missed this discussion, but I'm glad to see that Howard
jumped in here and pointed out that what you are all talking about is
type II diabetes. I have type I, but people only tend to be aware of
type II (because the media keeps telling the public that "if you do this
or that, you'll get diabetes" without specifying that they're talking
about type II), so I have to explain a lot (no, it won't go away if I
'start' eating right (as if I haven't the past 36 years), no, exercise
won't cure me, no my pancreas hasn't produced any insulin in 36 years,
it's hardly going to start now) if I say I have diabetes. Often, I
rather just don't tell people I have diabetes. It's much easier.
Besides, (healthy) people tend to only see you as a walking disease and
nothing else. ;o)

I see you as someone who has a great outlook on life, so many obstacles
were/are put in your way and yet you handle your life admirably, you
have a positive outlook and last, but not least, you are a purrfect
catslave.
You are a great and wonderful person, Marina, and we are wishing you
have a very enjoyable summer (even though we'll miss you a lot)
Polonca and Soncek

MaryL -out-the-litter wrote:

I am Type II, and I understand what you mean when you say that people only
tend to be aware of Type II. I find myself doing that unless I know the
person has had diabetes since childhood -- which is obviously a
misperception on my part.

I don't have this misperception, because my mother's a type I diabetic,
so I grew up with that. Hard not to be aware of it when your mom takes
a shot every day! I also knew there was another kind of diabetes (type II)
that some people got when they got older, that wasn't usually as serious
as type I, although some of them also needed insulin.

I did believe for a long time that type II was also caused by a breakdown
of the pancreas, rather than because the body loses the ability to use
the insulin that it's still producing. That is, I thought that type II
was just a slower and less extreme version of type I, rather than being
a completely different disease that ends up having similar results.

Joyce

polonca12000 wrote:

I see you as someone who has a great outlook on life, so many obstacles
were/are put in your way and yet you handle your life admirably, you
have a positive outlook and last, but not least, you are a purrfect
catslave.
You are a great and wonderful person, Marina, and we are wishing you
have a very enjoyable summer (even though we'll miss you a lot)
Polonca and Soncek

Wow. Thank you Polonca. You've made me blush.

And I'm leaving in a few hours. Finally, I'll be back with the cats!

--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Jo Firey wrote:
"William Hamblen" wrote in message
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Type II is a lot more common than type I, so I guess that is
what most people know about.

Type I diabetes is not incompatible with being "healthy". I
know a man with type I diabetes who is in his 80s and is still
going strong. I think the people with type I diabetes tend to
do better than the ones with type II.


It varies. Some handle the "rules" and others just can't. Some are more
plagued by complications than others.

That's just it. And it's not even just about following the rules vs not
following them. My sister and I received approximately the same care
(even saw the doctor together when we were still kids), ate the same
stuff as long as we lived at home (and she eats mostly vegetarian now,
and I'm a veggie). She's had diabetes longer than I have. But I'm the
one with all the complications, and she has none. So it's not just about
following the rules. This thing just affects people different.


--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

"Marina" wrote in message
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Jo Firey wrote:
"William Hamblen" wrote in message
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Type II is a lot more common than type I, so I guess that is
what most people know about.

Type I diabetes is not incompatible with being "healthy". I
know a man with type I diabetes who is in his 80s and is still
going strong. I think the people with type I diabetes tend to
do better than the ones with type II.


It varies. Some handle the "rules" and others just can't. Some are more
plagued by complications than others.

That's just it. And it's not even just about following the rules vs not
following them. My sister and I received approximately the same care (even
saw the doctor together when we were still kids), ate the same stuff as
long as we lived at home (and she eats mostly vegetarian now, and I'm a
veggie). She's had diabetes longer than I have. But I'm the one with all
the complications, and she has none. So it's not just about following the
rules. This thing just affects people different.


That has to be incredibly frustrating sometimes. I hope your island summer
give you rest and relaxation. Family, and fun and all the very best. I
know Mir Mir and Cali will provide laughter.

Jo