*sigh* Tucker's weight, again

(Rene) wrote:

Wish I could give a positive recommendation for the m/d, but I can't,
since Tucker gained weight on it. Wow, $1.50 per can is a lot more
than I paid (though the canned was used like a "treat" so I didn't use
much). Think I paid $1 per can.

You can not use an Atkins type diet as a treat or else it simply fails
to do what it is supposed to do.

From the words of Steve Crane regarding m/d (Steve works for Hills as
Veterinary consultant)

"So yes the diet works, but *only* if pet owners follow directions. In
testing, all cats became metabolically ketogenic which is the
objective of such a low carb diet. Once the state of metabolic ketosis
is reached, that is the trigger for changing metabolism."

-mhd

(Rene) wrote:

Wish I could give a positive recommendation for the m/d, but I can't,
since Tucker gained weight on it. Wow, $1.50 per can is a lot more
than I paid (though the canned was used like a "treat" so I didn't use
much). Think I paid $1 per can.

You can not use an Atkins type diet as a treat or else it simply fails
to do what it is supposed to do.

From the words of Steve Crane regarding m/d (Steve works for Hills as
Veterinary consultant)

"So yes the diet works, but *only* if pet owners follow directions. In
testing, all cats became metabolically ketogenic which is the
objective of such a low carb diet. Once the state of metabolic ketosis
is reached, that is the trigger for changing metabolism."

-mhd

in article , Rene at
wrote on 8/29/04 5:53 PM:

"Karen" wrote in message
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"Rene" wrote in message
om...
Hello all,

I went in to the vet's yesterday to get Tucker weighed. (He's had a
weight problem that I've been trying to control for over two years.
He's now 6.) He was previously on Hills r/d but the vet switched him
to m/d last December.

He's gained a ton of weight! They did a full blood panel on him, in
case of an underactive thyroid, but everything came back clear. I
don't understand. He gets a specific amount of food every day, no
treats except catnip, he has a cat buddy, has to go up stairs to eat,
etc. etc.

I'm going to the vet's over lunch today to discuss food options, but
it's down to either Hills r/d again or Walthams weight control. I'm so
frustrated! I feel like I'm failing him as a kitty mom. Thoughts,
anyone?

Rene

I think that like us genetics can be involved. How much does he weigh? Do
you have a picture?

Karen,

Tucker has always been a "large boned" kitty. His paws and head are
huge! Here's a pic taken about a month ago:
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rj_...&.dnm=b412.jpg
He now weighs 21 lbs. I'm sure genetics probably have something to do
with it, but I can't understand how he'd gain so much weight in such a
short time (5 pounds in 8 months) I assued the vet he gets *no* other
food, treats, or meals, and I premeasure all food. Frustrating.

I chose Walthams Calorie Control for two reasons: 1, it has the lowest
kcals per cup, even lower than r/d, and 2, he hasn't tried it before.
It's worth a try. I'd hate to think how much he'd weigh if he were on
a regular food! Ugh.

Oh my. He does need some help. I hope your new routine works for him! he's
very handsome.

in article , Rene at
wrote on 8/29/04 5:53 PM:

"Karen" wrote in message
...
"Rene" wrote in message
om...
Hello all,

I went in to the vet's yesterday to get Tucker weighed. (He's had a
weight problem that I've been trying to control for over two years.
He's now 6.) He was previously on Hills r/d but the vet switched him
to m/d last December.

He's gained a ton of weight! They did a full blood panel on him, in
case of an underactive thyroid, but everything came back clear. I
don't understand. He gets a specific amount of food every day, no
treats except catnip, he has a cat buddy, has to go up stairs to eat,
etc. etc.

I'm going to the vet's over lunch today to discuss food options, but
it's down to either Hills r/d again or Walthams weight control. I'm so
frustrated! I feel like I'm failing him as a kitty mom. Thoughts,
anyone?

Rene

I think that like us genetics can be involved. How much does he weigh? Do
you have a picture?

Karen,

Tucker has always been a "large boned" kitty. His paws and head are
huge! Here's a pic taken about a month ago:
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rj_...&.dnm=b412.jpg
He now weighs 21 lbs. I'm sure genetics probably have something to do
with it, but I can't understand how he'd gain so much weight in such a
short time (5 pounds in 8 months) I assued the vet he gets *no* other
food, treats, or meals, and I premeasure all food. Frustrating.

I chose Walthams Calorie Control for two reasons: 1, it has the lowest
kcals per cup, even lower than r/d, and 2, he hasn't tried it before.
It's worth a try. I'd hate to think how much he'd weigh if he were on
a regular food! Ugh.

Oh my. He does need some help. I hope your new routine works for him! he's
very handsome.

in article , Rene at
wrote on 8/29/04 5:53 PM:

"Karen" wrote in message
...
"Rene" wrote in message
om...
Hello all,

I went in to the vet's yesterday to get Tucker weighed. (He's had a
weight problem that I've been trying to control for over two years.
He's now 6.) He was previously on Hills r/d but the vet switched him
to m/d last December.

He's gained a ton of weight! They did a full blood panel on him, in
case of an underactive thyroid, but everything came back clear. I
don't understand. He gets a specific amount of food every day, no
treats except catnip, he has a cat buddy, has to go up stairs to eat,
etc. etc.

I'm going to the vet's over lunch today to discuss food options, but
it's down to either Hills r/d again or Walthams weight control. I'm so
frustrated! I feel like I'm failing him as a kitty mom. Thoughts,
anyone?

Rene

I think that like us genetics can be involved. How much does he weigh? Do
you have a picture?

Karen,

Tucker has always been a "large boned" kitty. His paws and head are
huge! Here's a pic taken about a month ago:
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rj_...&.dnm=b412.jpg
He now weighs 21 lbs. I'm sure genetics probably have something to do
with it, but I can't understand how he'd gain so much weight in such a
short time (5 pounds in 8 months) I assued the vet he gets *no* other
food, treats, or meals, and I premeasure all food. Frustrating.

I chose Walthams Calorie Control for two reasons: 1, it has the lowest
kcals per cup, even lower than r/d, and 2, he hasn't tried it before.
It's worth a try. I'd hate to think how much he'd weigh if he were on
a regular food! Ugh.

Oh my. He does need some help. I hope your new routine works for him! he's
very handsome.

Tucker has always been a "large boned" kitty. His paws and head are
huge! Here's a pic taken about a month ago:

Oh my. Tucker *is* er... fluffy. Good luck on his weight. It's difficult, I
know. He's a gorgeous cat.

Sherry

Tucker has always been a "large boned" kitty. His paws and head are
huge! Here's a pic taken about a month ago:

Oh my. Tucker *is* er... fluffy. Good luck on his weight. It's difficult, I
know. He's a gorgeous cat.

Sherry

Tucker has always been a "large boned" kitty. His paws and head are
huge! Here's a pic taken about a month ago:

Oh my. Tucker *is* er... fluffy. Good luck on his weight. It's difficult, I
know. He's a gorgeous cat.

Sherry

wrote in message . ..
(Rene) wrote:

Wish I could give a positive recommendation for the m/d, but I can't,
since Tucker gained weight on it. Wow, $1.50 per can is a lot more
than I paid (though the canned was used like a "treat" so I didn't use
much). Think I paid $1 per can.

You can not use an Atkins type diet as a treat or else it simply fails
to do what it is supposed to do.

From the words of Steve Crane regarding m/d (Steve works for Hills as
Veterinary consultant)

"So yes the diet works, but *only* if pet owners follow directions. In
testing, all cats became metabolically ketogenic which is the
objective of such a low carb diet. Once the state of metabolic ketosis
is reached, that is the trigger for changing metabolism."

-mhd

I *did* follow directions. I used m/d dry as the main diet with a
teaspoon of the m/d canned as a "treat." I say treat because he used
to get more canned before he went on a diet, so I didn't want to go
completely from mostly canned to no canned. As I said before, he did
*not* receive any other treats or people food.

This diet did not work for Tucker. I don't know why, but if he gained
that much weight in that time period, it's clear it wasn't because I
wasn't "following directions."

Rene

wrote in message . ..
(Rene) wrote:

Wish I could give a positive recommendation for the m/d, but I can't,
since Tucker gained weight on it. Wow, $1.50 per can is a lot more
than I paid (though the canned was used like a "treat" so I didn't use
much). Think I paid $1 per can.

You can not use an Atkins type diet as a treat or else it simply fails
to do what it is supposed to do.

From the words of Steve Crane regarding m/d (Steve works for Hills as
Veterinary consultant)

"So yes the diet works, but *only* if pet owners follow directions. In
testing, all cats became metabolically ketogenic which is the
objective of such a low carb diet. Once the state of metabolic ketosis
is reached, that is the trigger for changing metabolism."

-mhd

I *did* follow directions. I used m/d dry as the main diet with a
teaspoon of the m/d canned as a "treat." I say treat because he used
to get more canned before he went on a diet, so I didn't want to go
completely from mostly canned to no canned. As I said before, he did
*not* receive any other treats or people food.

This diet did not work for Tucker. I don't know why, but if he gained
that much weight in that time period, it's clear it wasn't because I
wasn't "following directions."

Rene