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REPOST Video of a kitten being drowned
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:00:28 -0700, bookie wrote:
On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote: Charlie Wilkes wrote: Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing. Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the "humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun". You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here longer than 5 minutes knows it. You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves why. Asshole. -L. what? are you serious? he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!! No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of getting shot. dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad', all they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused, stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course be interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said canine will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't know was 'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping with stress of an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and spirals out of control). when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their dog properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the bottom line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and be part of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do anything which would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted from the pack would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a grip, and definintely NOT get a dog. oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor frightened confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so much is treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get this treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a dog shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's perspective first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be interpreted by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are not capable of willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things. christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor, in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance. Charlie |
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
news Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor, in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance. Charlie You are clearly a sick asshole obsessed with killing small animals. Go find some other group to antagonize, or better yet kill yourself. |
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On 23 Aug, 01:29, Charlie Wilkes
wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:00:28 -0700, bookie wrote: On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote: Charlie Wilkes wrote: Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing. Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the "humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun". You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here longer than 5 minutes knows it. You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves why. Asshole. -L. what? are you serious? he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!! No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of getting shot. dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad', all they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused, stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course be interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said canine will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't know was 'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping with stress of an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and spirals out of control). when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their dog properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the bottom line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and be part of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do anything which would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted from the pack would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a grip, and definintely NOT get a dog. oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor frightened confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so much is treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get this treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a dog shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's perspective first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be interpreted by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are not capable of willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things. christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor, in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance. Charlie- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - so you deliberately with hold food in an attempt to 'encourage' the dog to stick around and not run off again? sorry i don't quite understand how that works exactly? please explain... again, the dog did not 'run off' to **** you off, where do you get such a stupid idea? it probably went in the hope of finding a better owner or for a thousand other reasons which seemed logical to the dog at the time but i can bet that none of them involve deliberately trying to annoy you. at least the dog is in a better place now and not being starved by an uncaring owner with a twisted idea of how dogs think. jesus wept bookie |
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REPOST Video of a kitten being drowned
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:31:01 -0700, bookie wrote:
again, the dog did not 'run off' to **** you off, where do you get such a stupid idea? ??? What makes you think I had that idea? it probably went in the hope of finding a better owner or for a thousand other reasons which seemed logical to the dog at the time but i can bet that none of them involve deliberately trying to annoy you. Of course she wasn't trying to annoy me. And I wasn't angry. I was worried. I didn't know how else to get the message across to her that running off is DANGEROUS. I live on a rural area where free running dogs can and do get shot. What I did may or may not have been effective, but I didn't do it to abuse my dog, who I dearly loved. I should never have mentioned it in this group, obviously. Charlie |
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REPOST Video of a kitten being drowned
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:01:07 -0700, "-L."
wrote: Charlie Wilkes wrote: Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing. Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the "humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun". You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here longer than 5 minutes knows it. You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves why. Asshole. -L. I didn't watch the video L. In fact I refrained from even reading the cat newsgroups for almost a week just because of the subject title in the original post. When ever I see a post like the original one here, I get visions in my head that I can't get rid of for weeks, sometimes years. I like the 'comeback' you wrote to Charlie. Apparently he is an asshole for even posting something as horendous as this in the first place. The whole world knows what kind of horrors the human race inflicts on sweet little pooties. The answer I suppose is to try and educate the morons and not to dwell on the pain and suffering they cause. -bonbon |
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Charlie Wilkes wrote: No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of getting shot. Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in your own post: "My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9 months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR problem for me. Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised my voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight. She was severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone with nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. " From: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...eb0d26c162e70a Post #30 What kind of asshole calls a 9 month old puppy a "mean and nasty...adolescent"? She probably committed suicide to get away from you. -L. |
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"-L." wrote in message
ups.com... Charlie Wilkes wrote: No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of getting shot. Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in your own post: "My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9 months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR problem for me. Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised my voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight. She was severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone with nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. " From: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...eb0d26c162e70a Post #30 What kind of asshole calls a 9 month old puppy a "mean and nasty...adolescent"? She probably committed suicide to get away from you. -L. Charlie Wilkes is clearly a deranged sociopath, don't waste your breath on him. |
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On 27 Aug, 18:59, "Professor" wrote:
"-L." wrote in message ups.com... Charlie Wilkes wrote: No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of getting shot. Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in your own post: "My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9 months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR problem for me. Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised my voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight. She was severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone with nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. " From: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...rowse_frm/thre... Post #30 What kind of asshole calls a 9 month old puppy a "mean and nasty...adolescent"? She probably committed suicide to get away from you. -L. Charlie Wilkes is clearly a deranged sociopath, don't waste your breath on him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you are....? |
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REPOST Video of a kitten being drowned
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:54:27 -0700, -L. wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote: No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of getting shot. Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in your own post: "My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9 months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR problem for me. Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised my voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight. She was severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone with nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. " We've been over this, dear. Normally, the dog was fed in the evening. She ran off after being fed on a Monday evening, was found near an outbuilding on Tuesday a.m., was tied out from then until Wednesday afternoon, and was fed at the normal time Wednesday evening. She had "nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours," but she only missed one daily feeding. BTW, have the police shown up on your doorstep lately, or have you learned to control your urge to harass people? Charlie |
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Charlie Wilkes wrote: BTW, have the police shown up on your doorstep lately, or have you learned to control your urge to harass people? Charlie I would suggest you stop committing libel, lest you find yourself at the end of a big fat lawsuit, Charlie Wilkes. I could use a house on an island... -L. |
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