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GAUBSTER2 composed with style: If Hills can keep the phosphorus down and use say, chicken meal at the top of the ingredient list instead of corn meal, I might try it again. LOL! Hill's products are the only foods that ALWAYS keep the phosphorus down. Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at the ingredient list. Why?? Surely by now, you know the games that are played w/ ingredient lists. But I guess emotionalism is all that matters for you and not efficacy or nutrition. You're more worried about what words on a piece of paper say than the nutrient levels going into your cats (managing risk factors). Neura Wellness 'Lite' Formula % protein 33.15 % phosphorus 0.751 % sodium 0.22 % fat 12.05 |
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In ,
GAUBSTER2 composed with style: If Hills can keep the phosphorus down and use say, chicken meal at the top of the ingredient list instead of corn meal, I might try it again. LOL! Hill's products are the only foods that ALWAYS keep the phosphorus down. Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at the ingredient list. Why?? Surely by now, you know the games that are played w/ ingredient lists. But I guess emotionalism is all that matters for you and not efficacy or nutrition. You're more worried about what words on a piece of paper say than the nutrient levels going into your cats (managing risk factors). Neura Wellness 'Lite' Formula % protein 33.15 % phosphorus 0.751 % sodium 0.22 % fat 12.05 |
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We're NOT talking nutrients here, please DO try to keep up.
You claim a product that passes the AAFCO feed trial for growth has a different nutrient profile than a product that passes the AAFCO feed trial for maintenance. AS STEVE HAS POSTED, there is no consideration of the nutrient profile in a feed trial. The ONLY consideration is the biochemical and physiologic effect on the test animals. Wellness and Felidae FAIL to cause ANEMIA and STUNTING in kittens (among other blood morphology and chemistry requirements). That is the ONLY extrapolation to be made from the label claim. -Alison in OH I don't have a copy handy right now, but I've seen something in the past called KNF's (Key Nutritional Factors). Those are minimums and maximums established for the different lifestages of cats. The nutrient levels of those foods are excessive for the adult and senior KNF's established. They are not excessive for the growth lifestage. So, yes, those "all life stage" foods that are "formulated" w/ higher nutrient levels to sustain kittens ARE excessive for adult and senior cats. Unless you don't believe in that sort of thing, which is your loss. |
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We're NOT talking nutrients here, please DO try to keep up.
You claim a product that passes the AAFCO feed trial for growth has a different nutrient profile than a product that passes the AAFCO feed trial for maintenance. AS STEVE HAS POSTED, there is no consideration of the nutrient profile in a feed trial. The ONLY consideration is the biochemical and physiologic effect on the test animals. Wellness and Felidae FAIL to cause ANEMIA and STUNTING in kittens (among other blood morphology and chemistry requirements). That is the ONLY extrapolation to be made from the label claim. -Alison in OH I don't have a copy handy right now, but I've seen something in the past called KNF's (Key Nutritional Factors). Those are minimums and maximums established for the different lifestages of cats. The nutrient levels of those foods are excessive for the adult and senior KNF's established. They are not excessive for the growth lifestage. So, yes, those "all life stage" foods that are "formulated" w/ higher nutrient levels to sustain kittens ARE excessive for adult and senior cats. Unless you don't believe in that sort of thing, which is your loss. |
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Cheryl! Once again, you made me spit onto my monitor from laughing! Stop
that!! LOL! Cheryl wrote: In , composed with style: Gaubster2 wrote: Again, Cheryl, you are ONLY looking at the ingredient list. Why?? Hello??? Because, Einstein, her cat has IBD. Everyone on the group knows this and the only excuse you have for not knowing this is your pure, unfettered inability to comprehend the simplest things. If the cat can't tolerate the ingredients it can't eat the food. Everything else is secondary. Can't you just picture ol' Gauby sitting there banging away at the keyboard, blood vessels on his noggin ready to explode? lol |
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