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Old November 12th 09, 06:09 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Cheryl wrote:

"jmc" wrote in message
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Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/11/2009 3:46 PM):

"jmc" wrote in message
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Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/10/2009 9:21 PM):

"cybercat" wrote in message
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
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I'm sure a lot of you have already read about this

Man, I haven't and I can't watch it. I'm too much of a softie I
guess.

Here on the local news they had it on video. All of the details. I
was rooting for the lions. Environmental enrichment and all that.

Nothing really against deer (I'm on friendly terms with some where I
walk regularly), but I found it kind of sad that a couple of
mountain lions couldn't manage to catch one small deer (well caught
it once, then let it get away). Hopefully they just weren't hungry,
otherwise they're pretty sad specimens. I've seen housecats that
are better hunters than that


They were African lions in the National zoo.


Oh, sorry. Don't know why I said Mountain. I blame age


It makes it worse, doesn't it. That the king of the jungle couldn't
catch a small deer that seemed to have a death wish.



Oh, but they did. The caught the critter not once, but twice. If they
had been hungry, it would have been eaten. As it stands, they were just
play hunting, the deer an exciting new toy. Too bad it was so easily
damaged.
  #12  
Old November 12th 09, 01:43 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:56 -0500, Dragoman
wrote:

Cheryl wrote:

"jmc" wrote in message
...
Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/11/2009 3:46 PM):

"jmc" wrote in message
...
Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/10/2009 9:21 PM):

"cybercat" wrote in message
...

"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
I'm sure a lot of you have already read about this

Man, I haven't and I can't watch it. I'm too much of a softie I
guess.

Here on the local news they had it on video. All of the details. I
was rooting for the lions. Environmental enrichment and all that.

Nothing really against deer (I'm on friendly terms with some where I
walk regularly), but I found it kind of sad that a couple of
mountain lions couldn't manage to catch one small deer (well caught
it once, then let it get away). Hopefully they just weren't hungry,
otherwise they're pretty sad specimens. I've seen housecats that
are better hunters than that


They were African lions in the National zoo.

Oh, sorry. Don't know why I said Mountain. I blame age


It makes it worse, doesn't it. That the king of the jungle couldn't
catch a small deer that seemed to have a death wish.



Oh, but they did. The caught the critter not once, but twice. If they
had been hungry, it would have been eaten. As it stands, they were just
play hunting, the deer an exciting new toy. Too bad it was so easily
damaged.



At least twice a week, when I'm reading before going to sleep, Marlo
let's out this continuous yowling while walking into the bedroom, and
there is always something in her mouth. It is sometimes a big yucky
waterbug. I figure those just come up from the pipes in the shower
when it gets dark. But she sometimes brings in a grasshopper-like
thing. I can't figure out where she gets those from. I've never seen
one in the house unless she brings it to me. I do sometimes leave the
kitchen door open so the cats go into the backyard, but I've never
even seen one of those things in the backyard.

Anyway, of my three cats, she is far and away the best hunter. Last
night I already had the light off when she came in yowling. I could
make out something pretty big in her mouth, so turned on the light
fearing some disaster. Luckily it turned out to be a toy mouse. I
guess the grasshopper supply ran low.

But the instinct to play with her prey is undeniable. Only rarely is
the creature dead when I see it; and I live in fear that she will jump
onto the bed with a live waterbug and start chasing it around. Ugh.
  #13  
Old November 12th 09, 06:15 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"dgk" wrote
Anyway, of my three cats, she is far and away the best hunter. Last
night I already had the light off when she came in yowling. I could
make out something pretty big in her mouth, so turned on the light
fearing some disaster. Luckily it turned out to be a toy mouse. I
guess the grasshopper supply ran low.


This is sooo cute. I remember when you got Marlo, I wanted you to name her
something else. Or, rather, you asked for name suggestions and did not pick
mine. :P My Gracie does this with her favorite rubber snake, and nothing
else. And she is offering her kill to you, you know. Get those big roach
traps for your waterbugs, and for Marlo, a big toy one. Then you can praise
her when she jumps up on the bed with it.


  #14  
Old November 13th 09, 02:52 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Suddenly, without warning, dgk exclaimed (11/12/2009 8:43 AM):
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:56 -0500, Dragoman
wrote:

Cheryl wrote:
"jmc" wrote in message
...
Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/11/2009 3:46 PM):
"jmc" wrote in message
...
Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/10/2009 9:21 PM):
"cybercat" wrote in message
...
"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
I'm sure a lot of you have already read about this
Man, I haven't and I can't watch it. I'm too much of a softie I
guess.

Here on the local news they had it on video. All of the details. I
was rooting for the lions. Environmental enrichment and all that.
Nothing really against deer (I'm on friendly terms with some where I
walk regularly), but I found it kind of sad that a couple of
mountain lions couldn't manage to catch one small deer (well caught
it once, then let it get away). Hopefully they just weren't hungry,
otherwise they're pretty sad specimens. I've seen housecats that
are better hunters than that

They were African lions in the National zoo.
Oh, sorry. Don't know why I said Mountain. I blame age

It makes it worse, doesn't it. That the king of the jungle couldn't
catch a small deer that seemed to have a death wish.


Oh, but they did. The caught the critter not once, but twice. If they
had been hungry, it would have been eaten. As it stands, they were just
play hunting, the deer an exciting new toy. Too bad it was so easily
damaged.



At least twice a week, when I'm reading before going to sleep, Marlo
let's out this continuous yowling while walking into the bedroom, and
there is always something in her mouth. It is sometimes a big yucky
waterbug. I figure those just come up from the pipes in the shower
when it gets dark. But she sometimes brings in a grasshopper-like
thing. I can't figure out where she gets those from. I've never seen
one in the house unless she brings it to me. I do sometimes leave the
kitchen door open so the cats go into the backyard, but I've never
even seen one of those things in the backyard.


Is it a bright green grasshopper like thing, or an oversized cricket
looking thing?


Anyway, of my three cats, she is far and away the best hunter. Last
night I already had the light off when she came in yowling. I could
make out something pretty big in her mouth, so turned on the light
fearing some disaster. Luckily it turned out to be a toy mouse. I
guess the grasshopper supply ran low.


Too Cute

But the instinct to play with her prey is undeniable. Only rarely is
the creature dead when I see it; and I live in fear that she will jump
onto the bed with a live waterbug and start chasing it around. Ugh.


Speaking of playing with their prey...

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I shared a house with a
couple of roomies and a Siamese named Cleo. My cat at the time was a
gigantic Maine Coon mix named Mouse.

I came out to the living room one morning to a very odd scene: Mouse
and Cleo facing each other, perhaps 6 or 7 feet apart, with a field
mouse cowering in the middle between them. Curious, I did nothing but
watched.

Eventually, the mouse made a run for it, heading towards Mouse and
freedom. Mouse casually reached out a paw and swatted it into the
center... mousie broke the other way, and Cleo did the same, swatted it
into the center..

Yes, Boys and Girls, Mouse and Cleo were playing tennis with the poor
terrified mouse! Man, I wish video cameras existed in those days! Yes,
cats are cruel predators, but it was still one of the most interesting
things I've ever seen two cats do together (usually they despised each
other).

At any rate, I've always had a rule: If a cat has the mouse, the mouse
is prey, and belongs to the cat. I watched them for a while, then went
off to work, leaving the cats to their entertainment. One of my roomies
took care of the mouse when the poor thing eventually died.

jmc
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Old November 13th 09, 03:44 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"jmc" wrote in message
...
Suddenly, without warning, dgk exclaimed (11/12/2009 8:43 AM):
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:09:56 -0500, Dragoman
wrote:

Cheryl wrote:
"jmc" wrote in message
...
Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/11/2009 3:46 PM):
"jmc" wrote in message
...
Suddenly, without warning, Cheryl exclaimed (11/10/2009 9:21 PM):
"cybercat" wrote in message
...
"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
I'm sure a lot of you have already read about this
Man, I haven't and I can't watch it. I'm too much of a softie I
guess.

Here on the local news they had it on video. All of the details. I
was rooting for the lions. Environmental enrichment and all that.
Nothing really against deer (I'm on friendly terms with some where I
walk regularly), but I found it kind of sad that a couple of
mountain lions couldn't manage to catch one small deer (well caught
it once, then let it get away). Hopefully they just weren't hungry,
otherwise they're pretty sad specimens. I've seen housecats that
are better hunters than that

They were African lions in the National zoo.
Oh, sorry. Don't know why I said Mountain. I blame age

It makes it worse, doesn't it. That the king of the jungle couldn't
catch a small deer that seemed to have a death wish.

Oh, but they did. The caught the critter not once, but twice. If they
had been hungry, it would have been eaten. As it stands, they were just
play hunting, the deer an exciting new toy. Too bad it was so easily
damaged.



At least twice a week, when I'm reading before going to sleep, Marlo
let's out this continuous yowling while walking into the bedroom, and
there is always something in her mouth. It is sometimes a big yucky
waterbug. I figure those just come up from the pipes in the shower
when it gets dark. But she sometimes brings in a grasshopper-like
thing. I can't figure out where she gets those from. I've never seen
one in the house unless she brings it to me. I do sometimes leave the
kitchen door open so the cats go into the backyard, but I've never
even seen one of those things in the backyard.


Is it a bright green grasshopper like thing, or an oversized cricket
looking thing?


Anyway, of my three cats, she is far and away the best hunter. Last
night I already had the light off when she came in yowling. I could
make out something pretty big in her mouth, so turned on the light
fearing some disaster. Luckily it turned out to be a toy mouse. I
guess the grasshopper supply ran low.


Too Cute

But the instinct to play with her prey is undeniable. Only rarely is
the creature dead when I see it; and I live in fear that she will jump
onto the bed with a live waterbug and start chasing it around. Ugh.


Speaking of playing with their prey...

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I shared a house with a couple
of roomies and a Siamese named Cleo. My cat at the time was a gigantic
Maine Coon mix named Mouse.

I came out to the living room one morning to a very odd scene: Mouse and
Cleo facing each other, perhaps 6 or 7 feet apart, with a field mouse
cowering in the middle between them. Curious, I did nothing but watched.

Eventually, the mouse made a run for it, heading towards Mouse and
freedom. Mouse casually reached out a paw and swatted it into the
center... mousie broke the other way, and Cleo did the same, swatted it
into the center..

Yes, Boys and Girls, Mouse and Cleo were playing tennis with the poor
terrified mouse! Man, I wish video cameras existed in those days! Yes,
cats are cruel predators, but it was still one of the most interesting
things I've ever seen two cats do together (usually they despised each
other).

At any rate, I've always had a rule: If a cat has the mouse, the mouse is
prey, and belongs to the cat. I watched them for a while, then went off
to work, leaving the cats to their entertainment. One of my roomies took
care of the mouse when the poor thing eventually died.


I could never watch this. I think a lot less of you after reading this.


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Old November 13th 09, 02:10 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:44:39 -0500, "cybercat"
wrote:


"jmc" wrote in message
...


But the instinct to play with her prey is undeniable. Only rarely is
the creature dead when I see it; and I live in fear that she will jump
onto the bed with a live waterbug and start chasing it around. Ugh.


Speaking of playing with their prey...

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I shared a house with a couple
of roomies and a Siamese named Cleo. My cat at the time was a gigantic
Maine Coon mix named Mouse.

I came out to the living room one morning to a very odd scene: Mouse and
Cleo facing each other, perhaps 6 or 7 feet apart, with a field mouse
cowering in the middle between them. Curious, I did nothing but watched.

Eventually, the mouse made a run for it, heading towards Mouse and
freedom. Mouse casually reached out a paw and swatted it into the
center... mousie broke the other way, and Cleo did the same, swatted it
into the center..

Yes, Boys and Girls, Mouse and Cleo were playing tennis with the poor
terrified mouse! Man, I wish video cameras existed in those days! Yes,
cats are cruel predators, but it was still one of the most interesting
things I've ever seen two cats do together (usually they despised each
other).

At any rate, I've always had a rule: If a cat has the mouse, the mouse is
prey, and belongs to the cat. I watched them for a while, then went off
to work, leaving the cats to their entertainment. One of my roomies took
care of the mouse when the poor thing eventually died.


I could never watch this. I think a lot less of you after reading this.


That's one reason I could never own a snake. How could I ever feed it
live mice? Or even crickets. Still, mice do really exist for one
purpose (outside of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) and that is to be
food for birds and sometimes cats. In HGTTG, mice are the three
dimentional representation of pan-galactic beings that actually run
the universe.

I've rescued a few mice and birds from my cats, plus the occasional
oPossum baby. But I draw the line at waterbugs. If Marlo wants to off
a waterbug, I will not try to rescue it. I just found a wingless
waterbug body this morning. I'm sure the wings will turn up shortly.
  #17  
Old November 13th 09, 02:11 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:15:46 -0500, "cybercat"
wrote:


"dgk" wrote
Anyway, of my three cats, she is far and away the best hunter. Last
night I already had the light off when she came in yowling. I could
make out something pretty big in her mouth, so turned on the light
fearing some disaster. Luckily it turned out to be a toy mouse. I
guess the grasshopper supply ran low.


This is sooo cute. I remember when you got Marlo, I wanted you to name her
something else. Or, rather, you asked for name suggestions and did not pick
mine. :P My Gracie does this with her favorite rubber snake, and nothing
else. And she is offering her kill to you, you know. Get those big roach
traps for your waterbugs, and for Marlo, a big toy one. Then you can praise
her when she jumps up on the bed with it.


Oh no, I wouldn't deny her the excitement of catching those things.
Besides, she is pretty plump and needs the exercise. Living in fear of
a live waterbug on the bed is a small price to pay.
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Old November 13th 09, 02:15 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:52:00 -0500, jmc
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At least twice a week, when I'm reading before going to sleep, Marlo
let's out this continuous yowling while walking into the bedroom, and
there is always something in her mouth. It is sometimes a big yucky
waterbug. I figure those just come up from the pipes in the shower
when it gets dark. But she sometimes brings in a grasshopper-like
thing. I can't figure out where she gets those from. I've never seen
one in the house unless she brings it to me. I do sometimes leave the
kitchen door open so the cats go into the backyard, but I've never
even seen one of those things in the backyard.


Is it a bright green grasshopper like thing, or an oversized cricket
looking thing?


No, not bright green. More a dull greyish color - maybe even a
cricket. It's only an inch long or so. I am absolutely mystified as to
where she gets them. Maybe this is just the season or something since
she's probably had three in the last three weeks.
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Old November 13th 09, 09:33 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"dgk" wrote in message
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That's one reason I could never own a snake. How could I ever feed it
live mice? Or even crickets. Still, mice do really exist for one
purpose (outside of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) and that is to be
food for birds and sometimes cats. In HGTTG, mice are the three
dimentional representation of pan-galactic beings that actually run
the universe.


Mice also make nice pets. I have 3 now. There were 4 but one got a tumor,
and I thought she had a broken leg and took her to the ER vet. Vet told me
it wasn't a broken leg but a tumor interfering with her walking. I had to
have them put her to sleep.

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Old November 13th 09, 09:36 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"dgk" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:15:46 -0500, "cybercat"
wrote:


"dgk" wrote
Anyway, of my three cats, she is far and away the best hunter. Last
night I already had the light off when she came in yowling. I could
make out something pretty big in her mouth, so turned on the light
fearing some disaster. Luckily it turned out to be a toy mouse. I
guess the grasshopper supply ran low.


This is sooo cute. I remember when you got Marlo, I wanted you to name her
something else. Or, rather, you asked for name suggestions and did not
pick
mine. :P My Gracie does this with her favorite rubber snake, and nothing
else. And she is offering her kill to you, you know. Get those big roach
traps for your waterbugs, and for Marlo, a big toy one. Then you can
praise
her when she jumps up on the bed with it.


Oh no, I wouldn't deny her the excitement of catching those things.
Besides, she is pretty plump and needs the exercise. Living in fear of
a live waterbug on the bed is a small price to pay.


Makes sense.


 




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