GASP

Don't touch them. You can safely leave then where they are until morning,
and then maybe the mama will come out briefly and stretch her legs and get
some nutrition/water. I'd taken care of, and helped deliver kittens
before. I would leave them be. The mother knows what she is doing and went
to a place to have them where she felt it was safe, warm and a good first
home.

Terry wrote:
I'd taken care of, and helped deliver kittens
before. I would leave them be. The mother knows what she is doing and went
to a place to have them where she felt it was safe, warm and a good first
home.

ok, thanks.

now.. hmmm.. where will I sleep?

lol

WHERE AM I GONNA SLEEP

I don't wanna smush them... I guess it wouldn't if I laid on the other
side of the bed
put my head at the foot... yeah...they should be fine

I wants to wash and disenfect my box spring now...

I lifted propped the box spring up on that corner with a small sugar
bowl..
so any fluids can strain through the box spring lining.

Im just going to leave them alone...

I AM! IM GOING TO LEAVE THEM ALONE...

sneaking off

just kidding.. I will

"Terry" wrote in message
...
Don't touch them. You can safely leave then where they are until morning,
and then maybe the mama will come out briefly and stretch her legs and get
some nutrition/water. I'd taken care of, and helped deliver kittens
before. I would leave them be. The mother knows what she is doing and
went to a place to have them where she felt it was safe, warm and a good
first home.




Why don't you want him to move them? If it were my box spring, the kittens
would be out of there and in a box with clean towels in the back of a closet
already. All he'd have to do is make sure to wash his hands well before
handling them and be really gentle when he moves them. His cat probably
won't protest as long as she sees he's being careful with her babies. Then
he can leave them be till they're older.

W

2oz wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Congratulations, pops. Get your web site ready. I understand why
people are adamant about the need to spay/neuter, but I also think
sagas like this one are fun.

Charlie

yeah, but as I say, overpopulation is a matter for the gov't not the
people
WE should take a deep breath, I have just relieved all of you from a
false
burdern.

That is the most lame and ****ed-up excuse for shirking responsibility
I have *ever* read in my entire life.

You have got to be the stuidest ****er I have ever met.

-L.

2oz wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Congratulations, pops. Get your web site ready. I understand why
people are adamant about the need to spay/neuter, but I also think
sagas like this one are fun.

Charlie

yeah, but as I say, overpopulation is a matter for the gov't not the
people
WE should take a deep breath, I have just relieved all of you from a
false
burdern.

That is the most lame and ****ed-up excuse for shirking responsibility
I have *ever* read in my entire life.

You have got to be the stupidest ****er I have ever met.

-L.

2oz wrote:
THEY'RE HERE! THE KITTENS ARE HERE TONIGHT

I came home from work, chatted with Lucy and started to look for
Jupiter.

I heard 3 or 4 Jupiters saying.. "meeee meeee meeee" lol

I had to find them! No, I hadn't made her a box yet... I had no idea
she was ready to give birth,

Why does that not surprise me...


She crawled up in my box spring and had them... I haven't counted them
yet..
BUT I did peek in.. looks like mostly black.. but one had tabby stripes
on it's widdle weg..

oooo I can't wait!...

uh.. thanks for yall support

Barry is now chronicling a doomed litter of kittens. From conception,
to birth and every heartbreaking event from now on. You and I both know
what's next.

I've fostered litters and I'm sure many of you have too. They will
start to stink and he'll get tired of them and either turn them
outside, or if they're lucky, he'll take them to a shelter long before
they are old enough.

They'll never see a vet. Then the ones he does keep - if any - will
get knocked up and he'll start the same, ugly cycle again. All because
he thinks it's "cute" and full of "life".

Anyone have a puke bucket handy...?

-L.

Wendy wrote:
"Terry" wrote in message
...

Don't touch them. You can safely leave then where they are until morning,
and then maybe the mama will come out briefly and stretch her legs and get
some nutrition/water. I'd taken care of, and helped deliver kittens
before. I would leave them be. The mother knows what she is doing and
went to a place to have them where she felt it was safe, warm and a good
first home.


Why don't you want him to move them? If it were my box spring, the kittens
would be out of there and in a box with clean towels in the back of a closet
already. All he'd have to do is make sure to wash his hands well before
handling them and be really gentle when he moves them. His cat probably
won't protest as long as she sees he's being careful with her babies. Then
he can leave them be till they're older.

I agree, our cat allowed us to pick them up and help get them all comfy.
Heck, we even helped dry them off! She completely trusted us and she
had only lived with us for 2 weeks.

Cats have litters in strange places. We had the mom in one room and had
four comfy areas set up for her, and she had them between a box and a
wall where she could hardly lay down herself.

We got them settled into a safe place and then let them alone for awhile.

Rhonda

"Rhonda" wrote in message
...
Wendy wrote:
"Terry" wrote in message
...

Don't touch them. You can safely leave then where they are until
morning, and then maybe the mama will come out briefly and stretch her
legs and get some nutrition/water. I'd taken care of, and helped
deliver kittens before. I would leave them be. The mother knows what
she is doing and went to a place to have them where she felt it was safe,
warm and a good first home.


Why don't you want him to move them? If it were my box spring, the
kittens would be out of there and in a box with clean towels in the back
of a closet already. All he'd have to do is make sure to wash his hands
well before handling them and be really gentle when he moves them. His
cat probably won't protest as long as she sees he's being careful with
her babies. Then he can leave them be till they're older.

I agree, our cat allowed us to pick them up and help get them all comfy.
Heck, we even helped dry them off! She completely trusted us and she had
only lived with us for 2 weeks.

Cats have litters in strange places. We had the mom in one room and had
four comfy areas set up for her, and she had them between a box and a wall
where she could hardly lay down herself.

We got them settled into a safe place and then let them alone for awhile.

Rhonda



I handle all the kittens born here. I have to when I clean up the crate they
are living in. The one Mom had only been here two days before she had her
litter. As long as she didn't lose site of them she was fine with me picking
them up.

W

"Rhonda" wrote in message
...
Wendy wrote:
"Terry" wrote in message
...

Don't touch them. [...]

Why don't you want him to move them? If it were my box spring, the
kittens would be out of there and in a box with clean towels in the back
of a closet already. [...]

I agree, our cat allowed us to pick them up and help get them all comfy.
Heck, we even helped dry them off! She completely trusted us and she had
only lived with us for 2 weeks.

Cats have litters in strange places. We had the mom in one room and had
four comfy areas set up for her, and she had them between a box and a wall
where she could hardly lay down herself.

We got them settled into a safe place and then let them alone for awhile.


Talked to Barry last night and read him Wendy's advice and last I heard he
intended to move them gently into a cozy box with some clean towels near
one of Jupiter's favorite spots. He still had not disturbed them at about
midnight, so he was not sure how many there were, but from eyeballing
the boxspring thought it looked like three or four. Which would be a lot
better than six! Jup was purring any time he even touched the boxspring,
so she appears to have come through labor just fine. I want to see them!!
Maybe we will get some pictures soon.

"Wendy" wrote
I handle all the kittens born here. I have to when I clean up the crate
they are living in. The one Mom had only been here two days before she had
her litter. As long as she didn't lose site of them she was fine with me
picking them up.


I remembered that you had dealt with lots of kittens when I conveyed your
advice to Barry. He definitely intended to move them to a better spot last
night before he went to bed. His first instincts, at least in this case,
were
good.