declawing

In , Karen Chuplis
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In , "BrandyÂ*Alexandre"
Â* wrote:

| How many industrialized nations are there in the world anyway?
| Twenty of them have banned declawing. Half of them admit there's
| still an underground for it

Cite your source, please.

In , "BrandyÂ*Alexandre"
Â* wrote:

| How many industrialized nations are there in the world anyway?
| Twenty of them have banned declawing. Half of them admit there's
| still an underground for it

Cite your source, please.

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
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You forgot:

list of countries snipped

That's your argument? Nothing to say on the article I shared? No sources
for your claims? I'm still not convinced.


"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
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No one is arguing for declawing cats as a matter of course in the
keeping of them. It's an argument about access to professional, safe,
and legal procedure when other efforts fail or cannot be undertaken.
It these sweeping generalizations that turn people off to your point of
view.

Ur, Brandy darling....you were *indeed* arguing for declawing cats as a
matter of course for keeping them. Say you:

"This is the first time i've declawed a cat and for our relationship is was
necessary."

I highly doubt other efforts had failed and could not be undertaken, unless
you mean you tried to train your cat to use the scratching post and couldn't
do it the first day. However, if you'd have taken even a cursory look at
the links I provided, you will see that even in the countries declawing is
banned, there *is* still access to a professional safe and legal procedure
when other efforts fail or cannot be undertaken, so no one who's cat has a
medically necessary reason for being declawed need resort to a back alley
chop job.

Feel better now?

Ann

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"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
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You forgot:

list of countries snipped

That's your argument? Nothing to say on the article I shared? No sources
for your claims? I'm still not convinced.


"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

No one is arguing for declawing cats as a matter of course in the
keeping of them. It's an argument about access to professional, safe,
and legal procedure when other efforts fail or cannot be undertaken.
It these sweeping generalizations that turn people off to your point of
view.

Ur, Brandy darling....you were *indeed* arguing for declawing cats as a
matter of course for keeping them. Say you:

"This is the first time i've declawed a cat and for our relationship is was
necessary."

I highly doubt other efforts had failed and could not be undertaken, unless
you mean you tried to train your cat to use the scratching post and couldn't
do it the first day. However, if you'd have taken even a cursory look at
the links I provided, you will see that even in the countries declawing is
banned, there *is* still access to a professional safe and legal procedure
when other efforts fail or cannot be undertaken, so no one who's cat has a
medically necessary reason for being declawed need resort to a back alley
chop job.

Feel better now?

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

Brandy Alexandre wrote:
Relish wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:


I have over and over. Simply the fact that you're irrational is
why you don't remember and it has never sunk in.


Cop out.



Says you, but it's still the truth.


Yup, "says me." Now go inside and have your milk and cookies.

Brandy Alexandre wrote:
Relish wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:


I have over and over. Simply the fact that you're irrational is
why you don't remember and it has never sunk in.


Cop out.



Says you, but it's still the truth.


Yup, "says me." Now go inside and have your milk and cookies.

Actually, no. Sewing up a cat's anus would kill it. Declawing, if
done right, isn't fatal.

True it would kill it, but this is not the point. Altering animals for
conveniance isnt right.

Mike

Actually, no. Sewing up a cat's anus would kill it. Declawing, if
done right, isn't fatal.

True it would kill it, but this is not the point. Altering animals for
conveniance isnt right.

Mike

"Arjun Ray" wrote in message
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In , "bewtifulfreak"
wrote:

Just a note: fingernails and claws are *not* the same. Our nails are
actually hardened (keratinized) skin, and do not grow out of a bone.
Removing a fingernail does not require amputation of any bones.

A claw is an integral part of the distal phalanx (the third, outermost
bone of the finger), and grows directly out of it.

Thank you for this detailed explaination.


Thus, declawing
requires amputation of the distal phalanx. The problem with partial
amputation (yes, sawing through rather than disjointing) is that claw
regrowth can happen - almost always in misshapen form.

You mean with the laser declawing? This sounds at *least* as bad as having
the toe taken completely off!

Again, thank you for broadening my declawing knowledge. The more I hear,
the more I know it's just something I could never consider. I still feel
bad for declawing one of our kitties way back when before I realized the
reality of the procedure, and we would never have considered it then, except
that we were told we couldn't have her in the apartment we wanted to rent
unless we did it. Knowing then what I know now, I would have given up the
nice apartment and found another.

Ann

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