UPDATE ON SPIRIT Good and bad

I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him. Sometimes
I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with out my friends
in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of my
mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the symptoms he
was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not going to let him
suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT IS
THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever encountered
in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet thought it
might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up signs. He said it
might have been the start of kidney failure but hopefully we got it in time.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for the
fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have all of
rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my vet and
another glucose test to be done

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I did
rumble NO MORE TREATS.

I have to be strong. I feel like I have been dragged behind a moving truck
for a hundred miles. I am sorry it took so long to update but I had to pass
out 30 minutes of sleep does not do it. I still did not rest well and I am
feeling it.

Spirit is in the family room. When we brought him home he walked out of
his cage into the kitchen and demanded lunch. He is more responsive
after the vet. He still is weak and is lying about but is still getting up
and about. I have to keep Ka'Shay away from him she won't leave him alone.
I want my Spirit back to his old self.

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

On 2006-09-09 14:51:03 -0500, "Matthew" said:

I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him.
Sometimes I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with
out my friends in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of
my mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the
symptoms he was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not
going to let him suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT
IS THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever
encountered in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet
thought it might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up
signs. He said it might have been the start of kidney failure but
hopefully we got it in time.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for
the fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have
all of rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my
vet and another glucose test to be done

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I
did rumble NO MORE TREATS.

I have to be strong. I feel like I have been dragged behind a moving
truck for a hundred miles. I am sorry it took so long to update but I
had to pass out 30 minutes of sleep does not do it. I still did not
rest well and I am feeling it.

Spirit is in the family room. When we brought him home he walked out
of his cage into the kitchen and demanded lunch. He is more
responsive after the vet. He still is weak and is lying about but is
still getting up and about. I have to keep Ka'Shay away from him she
won't leave him alone. I want my Spirit back to his old self.

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

The high blood sugar could be due to an infection or pancreatitis. I
hope he shows improvement soon.

"Matthew" wrote in message
. ..
I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him. Sometimes
I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with out my
friends in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of my
mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the symptoms he
was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not going to let him
suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

I've been praying and thinking about Spirit all day. I was too busy to post
early but I had a little read of the group ;-)
It's good news that your fears weren't realised and he was able to come home
with you.


OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT IS
THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever
encountered in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

Actually, Matthew, compared to the fact you thought you might have to say
goodbye today, that is not really bad news, is it? because it can be
controlled with medication that you are able to afford.

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

Purrs sent for good blood results.

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet thought
it might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up signs. He
said it might have been the start of kidney failure but hopefully we got
it in time.

I wonder if there are two things going on here? I can't see that diabetes
could give you a fever? Maybe what made him seem ill was his fever (for
whatever reason he might have it) and the diabetes just showed up as a
sideline, so to speak.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for the
fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have all of
rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my vet and
another glucose test to be done.

Lots of luck with this.

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I
did rumble NO MORE TREATS.

Is he fat? Diabetes can be related to obesity - definitely in people - so
why not in cats?

gentle snip

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

Try not to panic any more. You have done the right thing in getting him
seen by a vet and his treatment is now in progress. He has his antibiotics
and his insulin. You should see an improvement soon.

You are such a nice man, Matthew. You care about your cats so much and you
treat your DH and family nicely ;-)

I have real hope that Spirit will be ok.

Tweed

"Christina Websell" wrote in message
...

"Matthew" wrote in message
. ..
I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him.
Sometimes I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with
out my friends in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of
my mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the symptoms
he was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not going to let
him suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

I've been praying and thinking about Spirit all day. I was too busy to
post early but I had a little read of the group ;-)
It's good news that your fears weren't realised and he was able to come
home with you.


OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT IS
THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever
encountered in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

Actually, Matthew, compared to the fact you thought you might have to say
goodbye today, that is not really bad news, is it? because it can be
controlled with medication that you are able to afford.

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

Purrs sent for good blood results.

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet thought
it might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up signs. He
said it might have been the start of kidney failure but hopefully we got
it in time.

I wonder if there are two things going on here? I can't see that diabetes
could give you a fever? Maybe what made him seem ill was his fever (for
whatever reason he might have it) and the diabetes just showed up as a
sideline, so to speak.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for
the fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have all
of rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my vet and
another glucose test to be done.

Lots of luck with this.

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I
did rumble NO MORE TREATS.

Is he fat? Diabetes can be related to obesity - definitely in people - so
why not in cats?

gentle snip

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

Try not to panic any more. You have done the right thing in getting him
seen by a vet and his treatment is now in progress. He has his
antibiotics and his insulin. You should see an improvement soon.

You are such a nice man, Matthew. You care about your cats so much and
you treat your DH and family nicely ;-)

I have real hope that Spirit will be ok.

Tweed


Thank you Christina My family might say different ;-)

I am hoping that the high sugar level is a result of the fever; IMO which
usually when there is a fever there is infection. I am hoping that this is
just a byproduct.

He weights 15.2 pounds today. I say about 1.5 - 2 pounds over the vet says
he is fine but needs to be maintained. Rumble weight is 11.2 and I think
he needs to gain a pound to fit a optimum profile. Phantom is the fat boy
19+ can stop him from eating even if you lock him in a room. He goes to
the other dishes and licks the bowls but does not free feed much. Spirit
is the real only free feeder he only eats wet food when the urge hits him.
When I took him off of dry food he refused to eat for 4 days. I gave in
and feed him dry. I took him to he vet to make sure nothing was wrong with
him-- vet says stubborn streaks must run in the family ^-^

I can't help from panicking sometimes . I am awesome in a emergency I can
step up and be the crutch that everyone needs but deep down. I am crying
like a child praying I am doing the right thing. I do what needs to be done
when it needs to be done. I can't help and feel the way I do when someone
or something I love is in pain. I want to take that pain away and bear it
myself. After so much trauma in my life. A grief counselor told me once it
is like survivors guilt. I would rather it have been me or be me than see
anything I love suffer. She told me there was nothing to do about it some
people feel more compassion for others and either I can repress it and push
what I love away and act like a fool or I could live with it be happy
that I actually care about others and live my life the best way I can. I
took those words to heart. Sometimes tears flow, gentle words come easy or
the hard a@@ that you don't screw with comes out when you screw with
something I love.

"Karen" wrote in message
news:2006090915025816807%kchuplis@alltelnet...
On 2006-09-09 14:51:03 -0500, "Matthew"
said:

I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him.
Sometimes I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with
out my friends in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of
my mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the symptoms
he was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not going to let
him suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT IS
THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever
encountered in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet thought
it might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up signs. He
said it might have been the start of kidney failure but hopefully we got
it in time.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for
the fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have all
of rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my vet and
another glucose test to be done

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I
did rumble NO MORE TREATS.

I have to be strong. I feel like I have been dragged behind a moving
truck for a hundred miles. I am sorry it took so long to update but I
had to pass out 30 minutes of sleep does not do it. I still did not rest
well and I am feeling it.

Spirit is in the family room. When we brought him home he walked out of
his cage into the kitchen and demanded lunch. He is more responsive
after the vet. He still is weak and is lying about but is still getting
up and about. I have to keep Ka'Shay away from him she won't leave him
alone. I want my Spirit back to his old self.

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

The high blood sugar could be due to an infection or pancreatitis. I hope
he shows improvement soon.

Thanks


the vet thought about the pancreas also but the tell tale signs were not
present ???? . They did a full blood panel and the results will be back
in a couple days. I see my regular vet on Monday I will let him do another
full examination I trust him with my life and theirs completely

I was thinking when he said fever 104.1 there had to be a infection
somewhere. IMO in a cat if there is a fever there is an infection just
like us

I am hoping the high blood sugar is just a byproduct.

On another note it has been over a month since Rumble stopped his diazepam
and almost 3 months since his last insulin shot.

2 diabetic cats in the same house within the same year what are the odds
( I don't want to know ) ;-)

"Karen" wrote in message
news:2006090915025816807%kchuplis@alltelnet...
On 2006-09-09 14:51:03 -0500, "Matthew"
said:

I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him.
Sometimes I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with
out my friends in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of
my mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the symptoms
he was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not going to let
him suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT IS
THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever
encountered in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet thought
it might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up signs. He
said it might have been the start of kidney failure but hopefully we got
it in time.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for
the fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have all
of rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my vet and
another glucose test to be done

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I
did rumble NO MORE TREATS.

I have to be strong. I feel like I have been dragged behind a moving
truck for a hundred miles. I am sorry it took so long to update but I
had to pass out 30 minutes of sleep does not do it. I still did not rest
well and I am feeling it.

Spirit is in the family room. When we brought him home he walked out of
his cage into the kitchen and demanded lunch. He is more responsive
after the vet. He still is weak and is lying about but is still getting
up and about. I have to keep Ka'Shay away from him she won't leave him
alone. I want my Spirit back to his old self.

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

The high blood sugar could be due to an infection or pancreatitis. I hope
he shows improvement soon.
Thanks


the vet thought about the pancreas also but the tell tale signs were not
present ???? . They did a full blood panel and the results will be back
in a couple days. I see my regular vet on Monday I will let him do another
full examination I trust him with my life and theirs completely

I was thinking when he said fever 104.1 there had to be a infection
somewhere. IMO in a cat if there is a fever there is an infection just
like us

I am hoping the high blood sugar is just a byproduct.

On another note it has been over a month since Rumble stopped his diazepam
and almost 3 months since his last insulin shot.

2 diabetic cats in the same house within the same year what are the odds
( I don't want to know ) ;-)

"Matthew" wrote

2 diabetic cats in the same house within the same year what are the odds

Does diabetes in cats have the same cause as diabetes in humans? Have you
been giving sugary treats to your cats? If so, it's probably not a good
thing to do. I've never had a cat (or d*g) get diabetes so I don't know for
sure, but I know I've never given sugar to any animal, not even a horse. I
won't eat sugar (in any form including honey, etc.) myself, either.

"Pat" wrote in message
.. .

"Matthew" wrote

2 diabetic cats in the same house within the same year what are the
odds

Does diabetes in cats have the same cause as diabetes in humans? Have you
been giving sugary treats to your cats? If so, it's probably not a good
thing to do. I've never had a cat (or d*g) get diabetes so I don't know
for sure, but I know I've never given sugar to any animal, not even a
horse. I won't eat sugar (in any form including honey, etc.) myself,
either.


No the treat that the cats would get were not sugary. Never would do that
would never want to clean up my mistake.
They were like Pounce tartar control or rumble favorite temptation
seafood. Spirit free feeds on either Purina health urinary tract, IAMS
healthy cat or Whiskas hard food different varieties.

Diabetes has quite a few factors that can cause it in felines
http://www.felinediabetes.com/ Rumble does not fall in the over weight
category he is actually perfect weight. It was in his genes.

But personally I think that the glucose levels are off due to the fever. I
hope but I am not a vet

On 2006-09-09 15:46:59 -0500, "Matthew" said:


"Karen" wrote in message
news:2006090915025816807%kchuplis@alltelnet...
On 2006-09-09 14:51:03 -0500, "Matthew" said:

I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him.
Sometimes I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with
out my friends in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of
my mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the
symptoms he was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not
going to let him suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT
IS THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever
encountered in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet
thought it might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up
signs. He said it might have been the start of kidney failure but
hopefully we got it in time.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for
the fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have
all of rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my
vet and another glucose test to be done

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I
did rumble NO MORE TREATS.

I have to be strong. I feel like I have been dragged behind a moving
truck for a hundred miles. I am sorry it took so long to update but I
had to pass out 30 minutes of sleep does not do it. I still did not
rest well and I am feeling it.

Spirit is in the family room. When we brought him home he walked out
of his cage into the kitchen and demanded lunch. He is more
responsive after the vet. He still is weak and is lying about but is
still getting up and about. I have to keep Ka'Shay away from him she
won't leave him alone. I want my Spirit back to his old self.

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

The high blood sugar could be due to an infection or pancreatitis. I
hope he shows improvement soon.

Thanks


the vet thought about the pancreas also but the tell tale signs were
not present ???? . They did a full blood panel and the results
will be back in a couple days. I see my regular vet on Monday I will
let him do another full examination I trust him with my life and theirs
completely

I was thinking when he said fever 104.1 there had to be a infection
somewhere. IMO in a cat if there is a fever there is an infection
just like us

I am hoping the high blood sugar is just a byproduct.

On another note it has been over a month since Rumble stopped his
diazepam and almost 3 months since his last insulin shot.

2 diabetic cats in the same house within the same year what are the
odds ( I don't want to know ) ;-)

Higher than you think, but I'm really suspicious when a fever is
involved so be careful about looking for sluggishness and throwing up
etc. in case that subsides and the insulin is unneeded. You don't want
to throw Spirit into a hypo if the BG goes down because the infection
gets better.

"Karen" wrote in message
news:2006090917123116807%kchuplis@alltelnet...
On 2006-09-09 15:46:59 -0500, "Matthew"
said:


"Karen" wrote in message
news:2006090915025816807%kchuplis@alltelnet...
On 2006-09-09 14:51:03 -0500, "Matthew"
said:

I want to start off and say thank you for all the purrs for him.
Sometimes I wonder how I would make it thru the day or remain sane with
out my friends in these cat groups.

Ok the good news is he is home and still with us. I was scared out of
my mind that I was going to have to put him down today. All the
symptoms he was showing were telling me kidney failure. I was not
going to let him suffer ( This is my greatest fear)

OK here is the bad news he is showing signs of being diabetic. THAT
IS THE 2ND CAT IN LESS THAN A YEAR and only the third I have ever
encountered in all my years.

His glucose was 319 he had a fever of 104.1

He had a full blood panel drawn result in a few days on my knees
praying for good results

It was not my regular vet. I go back to him on Monday. This vet
thought it might have been pancreatic but did not show any follow up
signs. He said it might have been the start of kidney failure but
hopefully we got it in time.

So here is the deal 1.5 cc of omyicillin 2x a day till it is out for
the fever 1 unit of insulin 2x a day. which his lucky since I have
all of rumble's stuff still. Monday he goes back to be checked by my
vet and another glucose test to be done

They want me to put him on Purina diabetic hard food since that is all
Spirit will eat. So to this is all over and I get him regulated like I
did rumble NO MORE TREATS.

I have to be strong. I feel like I have been dragged behind a moving
truck for a hundred miles. I am sorry it took so long to update but I
had to pass out 30 minutes of sleep does not do it. I still did not
rest well and I am feeling it.

Spirit is in the family room. When we brought him home he walked out
of his cage into the kitchen and demanded lunch. He is more
responsive after the vet. He still is weak and is lying about but is
still getting up and about. I have to keep Ka'Shay away from him she
won't leave him alone. I want my Spirit back to his old self.

tears are still flowing from frustration and fear

The high blood sugar could be due to an infection or pancreatitis. I
hope he shows improvement soon.

Thanks


the vet thought about the pancreas also but the tell tale signs were not
present ???? . They did a full blood panel and the results will be
back in a couple days. I see my regular vet on Monday I will let him do
another full examination I trust him with my life and theirs completely

I was thinking when he said fever 104.1 there had to be a infection
somewhere. IMO in a cat if there is a fever there is an infection just
like us

I am hoping the high blood sugar is just a byproduct.

On another note it has been over a month since Rumble stopped his
diazepam and almost 3 months since his last insulin shot.

2 diabetic cats in the same house within the same year what are the
odds ( I don't want to know ) ;-)

Higher than you think, but I'm really suspicious when a fever is involved
so be careful about looking for sluggishness and throwing up etc. in case
that subsides and the insulin is unneeded. You don't want to throw Spirit
into a hypo if the BG goes down because the infection gets better.

He is very sluggish right now but he was very sluggish last night it has
actually improved a bit. I know he is not feeling well he is showing it.
He is eating and responding to his name and to touch but is moving very
slow when he does move and really has no strength.
My vet will make sure he is tested that was what he did with Rumble
if every one remembers when I got his diet regulated his sugar went back
down to 73 with insulin we stopped his insulin and it is in the high range
of ok but still is in the ok. he gets checked here soon also.

My poor furballs I feel so bad when he looks at me with those eyes as if
please help me. I have to choke back the tear. I moved him to a bed so he
would be more comfortable. He is napping right now but responds to noise
and his name. I am watching for low blood sugar. He gets another dose of
antibiotics here tonight. I have to be careful I am allergic to
penicillin. He gets a shot about 11 pm tonight. I hope he feels a little
better later on. I want my furball to be his old self