declawing

From: "Mike"

I'm
deeply against de-clawing cats, but if being declawed gives it a home and
saves it from being put down from an over-crowded shelter, I guess its a
necessary loss (even though it is only necessary through the ignorance of
the new owner).

But the problem is that declawing does NOT save cats their homes. There are
lots and lots of declawed cats that are dumped in shelters every day once they
start exhibiting declaw related behaviors such as litterbox avoidance and/or
biting and aggression.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Mike"

I'm
deeply against de-clawing cats, but if being declawed gives it a home and
saves it from being put down from an over-crowded shelter, I guess its a
necessary loss (even though it is only necessary through the ignorance of
the new owner).

But the problem is that declawing does NOT save cats their homes. There are
lots and lots of declawed cats that are dumped in shelters every day once they
start exhibiting declaw related behaviors such as litterbox avoidance and/or
biting and aggression.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Sherry )

Are you a person of diminished mental capacity?

Exactly the way to get people to licten to you and consider your point
of view. You just set back the movement against declawing. Congrats.

--
BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®

Not at all. It's simply amazing to me that some people, like you for
instance,
are totally unable to have nice furniture, a cat, and unshredded skin. Most
of
Europe manages it. Most of this newsgroup manages. I'm simply curious what
you
are lacking that you cannot.

Sherry

I've had cats for over 40 years and have always had nice furniture, and I don't
get scratched. Amazing, isn't it what training can do?

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Sherry )

Are you a person of diminished mental capacity?

Exactly the way to get people to licten to you and consider your point
of view. You just set back the movement against declawing. Congrats.

--
BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®

Not at all. It's simply amazing to me that some people, like you for
instance,
are totally unable to have nice furniture, a cat, and unshredded skin. Most
of
Europe manages it. Most of this newsgroup manages. I'm simply curious what
you
are lacking that you cannot.

Sherry

I've had cats for over 40 years and have always had nice furniture, and I don't
get scratched. Amazing, isn't it what training can do?

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/10/03 10:39 PM:

Karen Chuplis wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

There has never been a call yet for a nation wide ban, more's the
pity. Would you care to post specifics. And numbers of the HUGE
number of people.


You seem to rely heavily on anecdotal evidence, so here's an anecdote:
It's still widely done and widely requested. Attempts to ban it have
caused a great deal of controversy. One need only look at WQest
Hollywood. That's supportive enough of my assumption. I think it
supports my argument more than you little anecdotes support yours.

I've given proof and statistics in other threads and Lauren posted the
studies again here last night. Get your glasses out.

Karen

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/10/03 10:39 PM:

Karen Chuplis wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

There has never been a call yet for a nation wide ban, more's the
pity. Would you care to post specifics. And numbers of the HUGE
number of people.


You seem to rely heavily on anecdotal evidence, so here's an anecdote:
It's still widely done and widely requested. Attempts to ban it have
caused a great deal of controversy. One need only look at WQest
Hollywood. That's supportive enough of my assumption. I think it
supports my argument more than you little anecdotes support yours.

I've given proof and statistics in other threads and Lauren posted the
studies again here last night. Get your glasses out.

Karen

Are you a person of diminished mental capacity?

Exactly the way to get people to licten to you and consider your point
of view. You just set back the movement against declawing. Congrats.

--
BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®

Not at all. It's simply amazing to me that some people, like you for
instance,
are totally unable to have nice furniture, a cat, and unshredded skin. Most
of
Europe manages it. Most of this newsgroup manages. I'm simply curious what
you
are lacking that you cannot.

Sherry

I've had cats for over 40 years and have always had nice furniture, and I
don't
get scratched. Amazing, isn't it what training can do?

Lauren
________

Absolutely. The only thing in my house that gets scratched are the windowsills.
They're a foot wide, and the cats use them for perches, and over time they get
scrached from constantly being jumped on & off. . We re-varnish every five
years or so. Big deal. The upholstered furniture is fine, as is carpet,
wallpaper, everything else. As for mee, the only time I ever get scratched is
when I'm trying to medicate them.

Sherry

Are you a person of diminished mental capacity?

Exactly the way to get people to licten to you and consider your point
of view. You just set back the movement against declawing. Congrats.

--
BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®

Not at all. It's simply amazing to me that some people, like you for
instance,
are totally unable to have nice furniture, a cat, and unshredded skin. Most
of
Europe manages it. Most of this newsgroup manages. I'm simply curious what
you
are lacking that you cannot.

Sherry

I've had cats for over 40 years and have always had nice furniture, and I
don't
get scratched. Amazing, isn't it what training can do?

Lauren
________

Absolutely. The only thing in my house that gets scratched are the windowsills.
They're a foot wide, and the cats use them for perches, and over time they get
scrached from constantly being jumped on & off. . We re-varnish every five
years or so. Big deal. The upholstered furniture is fine, as is carpet,
wallpaper, everything else. As for mee, the only time I ever get scratched is
when I'm trying to medicate them.

Sherry

I agree with you that there *is* no argument pro-declaw. It's a practice that
has no benefit to the cat, none, zilch. But it isn't "only in America"
either.

Sherry

Woops, on second thought, you may be right. I was thinking about Canada and
Mexico, but they, too are part of America, (duh). I read your post as if it
said, "USA". Sorry.
Does anybody know about this? Which countries actually *do* routinely declaw
besides us?

S

I agree with you that there *is* no argument pro-declaw. It's a practice that
has no benefit to the cat, none, zilch. But it isn't "only in America"
either.

Sherry

Woops, on second thought, you may be right. I was thinking about Canada and
Mexico, but they, too are part of America, (duh). I read your post as if it
said, "USA". Sorry.
Does anybody know about this? Which countries actually *do* routinely declaw
besides us?

S