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  #171  
Old September 30th 04, 02:34 AM
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My dad had calcium based kidney stones and all he did for them was go
on a low-calcium diet and drink a cranberry juice and a beer every
day. He has never had one since and the ones he had in his kidneys
went away on their own. (The cranberry juice and the beer--consumed
separately from one another--are flushing agents. He also drinks a
glass of water every hour he is awake for flushing.)

Perhaps you could try that diet in lieu of medication.

I have ulcers myself. ick. Best of luck.

--Fil
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Old September 30th 04, 02:34 AM
Enfilade
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My dad had calcium based kidney stones and all he did for them was go
on a low-calcium diet and drink a cranberry juice and a beer every
day. He has never had one since and the ones he had in his kidneys
went away on their own. (The cranberry juice and the beer--consumed
separately from one another--are flushing agents. He also drinks a
glass of water every hour he is awake for flushing.)

Perhaps you could try that diet in lieu of medication.

I have ulcers myself. ick. Best of luck.

--Fil
  #173  
Old September 30th 04, 03:03 AM
CatNipped
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"Enfilade" wrote in message
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My dad had calcium based kidney stones and all he did for them was go
on a low-calcium diet and drink a cranberry juice and a beer every
day. He has never had one since and the ones he had in his kidneys
went away on their own. (The cranberry juice and the beer--consumed
separately from one another--are flushing agents. He also drinks a
glass of water every hour he is awake for flushing.)

Perhaps you could try that diet in lieu of medication.

I have ulcers myself. ick. Best of luck.

--Fil


I controlled my kidney stones for 15 years by drinking LOTS of fluids (more
than 120 oz. a day!!), just like your dad. The problem is that since I had
my gastric bypass surgery my stomach can't hold that much. Also, I'm not
supposed to drink anything an hour before or an hour after eating, so that
cuts down even more my fluid intake.

Hugs,

CatNipped


  #174  
Old September 30th 04, 03:03 AM
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"Enfilade" wrote in message
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My dad had calcium based kidney stones and all he did for them was go
on a low-calcium diet and drink a cranberry juice and a beer every
day. He has never had one since and the ones he had in his kidneys
went away on their own. (The cranberry juice and the beer--consumed
separately from one another--are flushing agents. He also drinks a
glass of water every hour he is awake for flushing.)

Perhaps you could try that diet in lieu of medication.

I have ulcers myself. ick. Best of luck.

--Fil


I controlled my kidney stones for 15 years by drinking LOTS of fluids (more
than 120 oz. a day!!), just like your dad. The problem is that since I had
my gastric bypass surgery my stomach can't hold that much. Also, I'm not
supposed to drink anything an hour before or an hour after eating, so that
cuts down even more my fluid intake.

Hugs,

CatNipped


  #175  
Old September 30th 04, 03:55 AM
Marina
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Howard Berkowitz wrote:


It's not that well known, but there experiments underway that may result
in a vaccine to prevent Type I diabetes (not "adult onset" Type II).
There is a good deal of evidence that children may catch a symptom-free
virus that then disappears. Unfortunately, that particular virus has a
surface protein that looks like one on a pancreatic islet cell, which
produces insulin.

The idea is that the virus causes antibodies to form against it, which
then go off and destroy pancreatic cells. If the virus can be prevented,
and the theory is correct, type I diabetes immunization may become a
routine childhood thing.


I've read about that on a very theoretical level, but didn't know they
were actually in the process of developing the vaccination. It's type I
that I have. I'm sincerely hoping the vaccine works out.

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  #176  
Old September 30th 04, 03:55 AM
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Howard Berkowitz wrote:


It's not that well known, but there experiments underway that may result
in a vaccine to prevent Type I diabetes (not "adult onset" Type II).
There is a good deal of evidence that children may catch a symptom-free
virus that then disappears. Unfortunately, that particular virus has a
surface protein that looks like one on a pancreatic islet cell, which
produces insulin.

The idea is that the virus causes antibodies to form against it, which
then go off and destroy pancreatic cells. If the virus can be prevented,
and the theory is correct, type I diabetes immunization may become a
routine childhood thing.


I've read about that on a very theoretical level, but didn't know they
were actually in the process of developing the vaccination. It's type I
that I have. I'm sincerely hoping the vaccine works out.

--
Marina, Frank and Nikki
marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
  #177  
Old September 30th 04, 04:10 AM
Seanette Blaylock
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Steve Touchstone had some very interesting
things to say about A Miracle Story (WAS: Latest news on "the
eye"):

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My more fundamental question, however, is about your ulcers. A very
substantial percentage of ulcers are curable with medication, if they
are caused by the bacterium Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori). Testing for
this is quite simple--the preferred method is a breath test after you've
taken a test drug. More often than not, two weeks or so of an
antibiotic in combination with anti-ulcer medication will cure it. Some
people may need a couple of courses of antibiotics.

I remember being surprised when this first came out - treating ulcers
with antibiotics didn't make sense until I learned more. One of my
younger brothers, and my younger sister, were plagued by ulcers from
and early age, and had them cured by antibiotics - though my brother
endured them for a couple extra years because he was too macho to be
tested. He has a high stress job and insisted that that was the cause,
and said he'd rather just drink maalox or some such as it was cheaper
than the treatment. Sure the maalox or mylanta may be cheaper in the
short run, but the cost just adds up.


DMIL was more than a little surprised a few years ago when she saw her
doctor for an ulcer and got antibiotics. She understood a lot better
in a few days when her ulcer cleared right up. :-)

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doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding.
:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
  #178  
Old September 30th 04, 04:10 AM
Seanette Blaylock
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Steve Touchstone had some very interesting
things to say about A Miracle Story (WAS: Latest news on "the
eye"):

snip
My more fundamental question, however, is about your ulcers. A very
substantial percentage of ulcers are curable with medication, if they
are caused by the bacterium Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori). Testing for
this is quite simple--the preferred method is a breath test after you've
taken a test drug. More often than not, two weeks or so of an
antibiotic in combination with anti-ulcer medication will cure it. Some
people may need a couple of courses of antibiotics.

I remember being surprised when this first came out - treating ulcers
with antibiotics didn't make sense until I learned more. One of my
younger brothers, and my younger sister, were plagued by ulcers from
and early age, and had them cured by antibiotics - though my brother
endured them for a couple extra years because he was too macho to be
tested. He has a high stress job and insisted that that was the cause,
and said he'd rather just drink maalox or some such as it was cheaper
than the treatment. Sure the maalox or mylanta may be cheaper in the
short run, but the cost just adds up.


DMIL was more than a little surprised a few years ago when she saw her
doctor for an ulcer and got antibiotics. She understood a lot better
in a few days when her ulcer cleared right up. :-)

--
"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be
doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding.
:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
  #179  
Old September 30th 04, 04:32 AM
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:19:23 -0600, Karen wrote:

I know that they are pretty certain my friend's little girl got diabetes
from a virus. It seems that is fairly well established that is a cause. What
disturbs me lately is the gigantic increase in Type II in children in the
U.S. We must change our eating habits and physical level! My nephew who is
13 has a cholesterol level of over 200. It's so awful. So preventable.


Along the same theme, as I was reading your post the late news was
talking about obesity in children. They didn't mention diabetes, but
it's part and parcel with the obesity problem. It certainly doesn't
help that the American education system seems to cut physical
education classes every time they run in to a financial crunch.
Another frequent target of cuts in the schools is the arts - which
IMHO should be another area that should not be cut. But, don't ask
what should be cut, I don't have any answers, and it doesn't appear
the powers that be in the education system do either.
--
Steve Touchstone,
faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky

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  #180  
Old September 30th 04, 04:32 AM
Steve Touchstone
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:19:23 -0600, Karen wrote:

I know that they are pretty certain my friend's little girl got diabetes
from a virus. It seems that is fairly well established that is a cause. What
disturbs me lately is the gigantic increase in Type II in children in the
U.S. We must change our eating habits and physical level! My nephew who is
13 has a cholesterol level of over 200. It's so awful. So preventable.


Along the same theme, as I was reading your post the late news was
talking about obesity in children. They didn't mention diabetes, but
it's part and parcel with the obesity problem. It certainly doesn't
help that the American education system seems to cut physical
education classes every time they run in to a financial crunch.
Another frequent target of cuts in the schools is the arts - which
IMHO should be another area that should not be cut. But, don't ask
what should be cut, I don't have any answers, and it doesn't appear
the powers that be in the education system do either.
--
Steve Touchstone,
faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky

[remove Junk for email]
Home Page:
http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html
Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html
 




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