I thought I was dying

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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Pat wrote:
"kilikini" wrote

| Irulan wrote:
| wow, hope you're doing much better. I had
| something similar happen to me years ago,
| which turned out to be a gall bladder attack. I
| thought I was having a heart attack! I did have
| to have my gall bladder removed and thank
| goodness the laparoscopy type operations were
| starting then. I was in and out of the hospital
| in a couple of days instead of the weeks of
| hospitalization that most gall bladder operations required
| up to then.
| Good luck!
|
| Lily & her mama
|
| I didn't think of gall bladder, but that could be it, too. I need mine
out,
| but mine is complicated from my previous surgeries. I can't get it
done
| laparoscopically (I have no belly button) and my lower abdominals have
been
| removed to rebuild my chest. The complication is that the muscles'
blood
| supply is still attached to my waistline. If a surgeon cuts through
that
| blood supply, the muscles die.
|
| So, to help avoid more surgery, I have once again drastically changed
my
| diet. Pretty soon I'll be down to just water. :-/
|
| kili

I sure hope it's not my GB, and it shouldn't be.... That's something that
happens when the GB gets worn out from dealing with too much fat and oil
in the diet,
Too much or too LITTLE fat! (The gall-bladder needs SOME fat, in order to
function properly!) Fortunately the doctor I had at the time I
experienced gall bladder problems a good many years ago was very
conservative about performing surgery "just in case". I was on
Nutrisystems (which at that time eliminated too much fat for proper
gall-bladder function). They've changed that long since, due to a
class-action suit lodged by people whose doctors were not so conservative
as mine. I didn't know about the lawsuit at the the time, so did not
participate, but apparently their diet was the source of my distress. I
learned to avoid the things that seemed to trigger my attacks - eggs,
alcohol, and a couple other things I don't remember, now. Eventually,
once I'd returned to a normal diet, the attacks stopped, and I still have
my gall bladder. (And eat eggs and drink alcoholic beverages without
discomfort.)


BTW, what *does* a gall bladder do?!

Among other things, helps the body to digest fat. ;-)

"CatNipped" wrote in message
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BTW, what *does* a gall bladder do?!

Happy Tails,

CatNipped


http://www.righthealth.com/Health/ga...25252F001138-s


"The gallbladder is a sac located under the liver. It stores and
concentrates bile produced in the liver. Bile aids in the digestion of fats,
and is released from the gallbladder into the upper small intestine (
duodenum ) in response to food (especially fats). Conditions which slow or
obstruct the flow of bile out of the gallbladder result in gallbladder
disease." This site also lists the symptoms of gall stones and other
diseases of the gall bladder.

I knew it aided in the digestion of fats, but it is a long time since mine
was removed, so I looked it up.

Pam S.

"tanadashoes" wrote in message
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"CatNipped" wrote in message
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BTW, what *does* a gall bladder do?!

Happy Tails,

CatNipped


http://www.righthealth.com/Health/ga...25252F001138-s


"The gallbladder is a sac located under the liver. It stores and
concentrates bile produced in the liver. Bile aids in the digestion of
fats, and is released from the gallbladder into the upper small intestine
( duodenum ) in response to food (especially fats). Conditions which slow
or obstruct the flow of bile out of the gallbladder result in gallbladder
disease." This site also lists the symptoms of gall stones and other
diseases of the gall bladder.

I knew it aided in the digestion of fats, but it is a long time since mine
was removed, so I looked it up.

Pam S.

I had mine removed too, and have never felt its lack (and, obviously, never
had any problems digesting food! ;).

Nose Skritches,

CatNipped

bastXXXette
Kyla =^. .^=`
Yes, gas can be quite painful. GasX usually works for me. And Rolaids.
I can't have anything done about anyting without health insurance,
so if I have a heart attack, or my gall bladder goes, I'm doomed.
Blasted gummet :/

Actually, it's illegal for a medical establishment to refuse treatment
to someone who can't pay, if it's a life-and-death emergency. So in those
cases, you wouldn't be doomed. You just wouldn't be able to get
preventative
treatment which would (1) lessen the likelihood of the emergency
happening,
and (2) cost said medical establishment money if they had to eat the cost.

I'd been granted a 'charity' case once when I couldn't afford the clot
removed from my knee, byt that hospital really gave me a lot of crap abour
re-paying them.
We're on a 'fixed income' hubby disabled as well as me, and it's not right
IMO.
Oh I have to have to get preventible care for my overactive thryroid, high
BP, and high colesterol, but the meds cost a small fortune.

Oh well. Nothin I can do bout that.

In California, we have a single-payer initiative going through state
congress. I feel quite sure it will be defeated this time around (and it
won't be the first time), but so far, it's the Initiative That Wouldn't
Die, so, just like Arnold*, it will "be back". I'm surprised that
Washington State doesn't have something similar.

(*Arnold Shwarzenegger, governor of California - to my unending
embarrassment)

LOL...thanx for your advice. I appreciate it. Washington State sucks in
their Medical care treatment.

Kyla

--
Joyce ^..^

(To email me, remove the X's from my user name.)

bastXXXette
Oopsie! I wrote:

Actually, it's illegal for a medical establishment to refuse treatment
to someone who can't pay, if it's a life-and-death emergency. So in
those
cases, you wouldn't be doomed. You just wouldn't be able to get
preventative
treatment which would (1) lessen the likelihood of the emergency
happening,
and (2) cost said medical establishment money if they had to eat the
cost.

I should have said, "You just wouldn't be able to get preventative
treatment, which would

(1) lessen the likelihood of the emergency happening, and
(2) cost said medical establishment *LESS* money if they did have
to eat the cost."

Of course it would cost them money. But preventative care costs less
than emergency care.

I can't even afford to go to the Dr for a blood draw, which I owe $100 for
the last time, and he wants $40 up front :/ I'm not going back any time
soon.
Can't affford it.

Kyla

--
Joyce ^..^

(To email me, remove the X's from my user name.)

"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Aug 2, 4:11 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
"tanadashoes" wrote in message

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"CatNipped" wrote in message
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BTW, what *does* a gall bladder do?!

Happy Tails,

CatNipped

http://www.righthealth.com/Health/ga...-od-definition...

"The gallbladder is a sac located under the liver. It stores and
concentrates bile produced in the liver. Bile aids in the digestion of
fats, and is released from the gallbladder into the upper small
intestine
( duodenum ) in response to food (especially fats). Conditions which
slow
or obstruct the flow of bile out of the gallbladder result in
gallbladder
disease." This site also lists the symptoms of gall stones and other
diseases of the gall bladder.

I knew it aided in the digestion of fats, but it is a long time since
mine
was removed, so I looked it up.

Pam S.

I had mine removed too, and have never felt its lack (and, obviously,
never
had any problems digesting food! ;).

Nose Skritches,

CatNipped

Your liver also produces bile and a whole bunch more vital stuff for
your body
and its secretions are fully able to take care of digestion in G.B's
absence.
I always considered the G.B. - and I am not alone - as a useless, PITA
organ
as its capacitiy to turn out gallstones (oh, Big PITA) far outweighed
its digestive
functions, LOL.

Yep. And what about the appendix!!? What's up with *that* Mother
Nature!!??? ;

Ear Skritches,

CatNipped

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"kilikini" wrote in message
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Sorry that you had to deal with it. :-(

kili

Not half as sorry as you would be if you had to deal with mine ;-)

I find that if I've got trapped wind, a gentle massage of the
abdomen will help work it down to the lace where it can be
released. I am quite musical, too. I also once farted on a loose
floorboard. There was a cat attached to the other end of the
floorboard. A cat doing its crab impersonation with tail like a
Christmas tree six feet off the ground is quite amusing. In the
bath, in can prolong the effect of bubble bath. In a cold night, it
can warm the duvet. When one has a boyyfriend, you know you're on
the track to a long-term relationship when you are both comfortable
being on farting-terms ;-) Strike no matches.


F*rt proudly, Helen. You know your marriage is secure when you not
only are comfortable with each other's gas, but glory in it. Rob is
a professional, but appreciates my amature efforts to emulate the
master. Pam S.

Ben prides himself on being able to belch actual words! Aren't men
just lovely creatures!? ;

Happy Tails,

CatNipped

ROFL! I can relate.

kili

CatNipped wrote:
"kilikini" wrote in message
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Irulan wrote:
wow, hope you're doing much better. I had
something similar happen to me years ago,
which turned out to be a gall bladder attack. I
thought I was having a heart attack! I did have
to have my gall bladder removed and thank
goodness the laparoscopy type operations were
starting then. I was in and out of the hospital
in a couple of days instead of the weeks of
hospitalization that most gall bladder operations required
up to then.
Good luck!

Lily & her mama

I didn't think of gall bladder, but that could be it, too. I need
mine out, but mine is complicated from my previous surgeries. I
can't get it done laparoscopically (I have no belly button) and my
lower abdominals have been removed to rebuild my chest. The
complication is that the muscles' blood supply is still attached to
my waistline. If a surgeon cuts through that blood supply, the
muscles die. So, to help avoid more surgery, I have once again
drastically
changed my diet. Pretty soon I'll be down to just water. :-/

kili

{{{{{{{{{{Kili}}}}}}}}}}

I would say that that sucks rotten eggs, but you probably can't eat
eggs either! ;

BTW, I hold you up as an example of courage whenever I start feeling
sorry for myself about some little ache or pain. I am constantly
amazed by your bright spirit even after all you've been through!

Nose Kisses,

CatNipped

Thank you, sweetheart! You and your family are always in my thoughts, too.
:~)

kili

Okay, may I ask what good is an appendix? I had mine removed back in
1972 when my youngest daughter was born. (by C-Section)
Kyla

wrote in message
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Oopsie! I wrote:

Actually, it's illegal for a medical establishment to refuse treatment
to someone who can't pay, if it's a life-and-death emergency. So in
those
cases, you wouldn't be doomed. You just wouldn't be able to get
preventative
treatment which would (1) lessen the likelihood of the emergency
happening,
and (2) cost said medical establishment money if they had to eat the
cost.

I should have said, "You just wouldn't be able to get preventative
treatment, which would

(1) lessen the likelihood of the emergency happening, and
(2) cost said medical establishment *LESS* money if they did have
to eat the cost."

Of course it would cost them money. But preventative care costs less
than emergency care.

--
Joyce ^..^

(To email me, remove the X's from my user name.)

Hospitals are required to provide treatment for life-threatening incidents,
but it really is an outrage to see how difficult they can make it. I went
to the ER on New Year's Day (as I explained in another post), and I was
truly impressed at how quickly I was treated and the high quality of care. I
walked into the waiting room and was called back into ER in just a matter of
minutes. A doctor came in by the time I maneuvered myself into bed. By
contrast, I took my mother's former roommate to the ER in a different
hospital a few weeks ago. She is on Medicaid and did receive treatment even
though it was not a life-or-death situation, but the quality of care she
received wasn't anything like mine. They were slow and gave her so little
information that it approached rudeness. I had to speak up on her behalf
several times to get good feedback, and I even had to round someone up for
checkout when they failed to return with paperwork. These were two
different hospitals, as I said, but I don't think the difference in care was
simply coincidental.

MaryL