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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
KenK wrote:
"Bohgosity BumaskiL" wrote in : 170 mL London Drugs Tuna 2 Eggs 5 mL Wasabi Powder 5 mL Paprika 700 W microwave oven Mix well. Microwave on high for three minutes. Mix again. Microwave on high for another minute. Serve hot. ------- I picked up Stevie as a stray about six months ago. She had a persistent case of diarrhea until about two weeks ago, when I started cooking for both of my owners...can't keep Stevie out of Skittles' food, so they both get cooking. Stevie is a voracious eater of raw tuna--still goes bonkers, running and jumping all over the place when I open a can. Unfortunately, raw tuna brings diarrhea back. Now that Skittles has accepted the smell of Salmon (perhaps due to Stevie's enthusiasm), I could serve that raw. Of course, Salmon, in its nearly pure human-targeted form is a lot more expensive, so it will likely be a special treat when I feel like eating some. My owners won't touch raw or canned hamburger, and they love a grilled pattie. I haven't fed my owners enough of it to know if beef is an option. _______ [ http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/ BrewJay's Babble Bin] I certainly haven't tried everything but my cat has diarrhea from everything I tried except two flavors of Fancy Feast 'Trout Feast' and 'Chicken Feast in Gravy'. Both are very scarce locally. However, I found that she can eat Wellness plain chicken canned food with no problem, right from the first meal. She's grown tired of it but will still eat it if nothing else is available. I've not tried other flavors because the store that carries Wellness only orders by the case - none for sale from stock. Wellness does not provide samples of canned food. I tried one meal with a sample of the Wellness dry 'Indoor Health' food but it caused diarrhea. Unfortunately the only store here that carries Wellness has terrible service. I'm about to run out again after two two-case orders were not filled. Ordering on-line has very expensive shipping. Unfotunately this canned Wellness evidently has no fiber so I have to add Benefiber to one meal and canned pumkin to another to reduce the number of hairballs. A PITA! Strays tend to pick up worms and other diseases from eating raw food, and old food. After you've had them a while, and had the vet deworm them, they usually turn out to be OK. |
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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
KenK wrote:
Unfotunately this canned Wellness evidently has no fiber so I have to add Benefiber to one meal and canned pumkin to another to reduce the number of hairballs. A PITA! tip: at halloween time, buy a leftover pumpkin. i find that the day of halloween or the day after, they're really cheap, or free. i got one for $1 this year. cut into chunks and bake in a flat pan with water inthe bottom in the oven until soft (about 45 minutes). scrape the insides into a bowl, puree in a food processor. i was able to get the equivalent of 12 large cans out of one medium sized pumpkin that i stored in my freezer. i have trouble keeping my wife from using the stash to make pies, to my waist's detriment. |
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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
cshenk wrote:
"JWL" wrote Bill Graham wrote: In Japan, they sometimes get over $100,000 for just one tuna fish. - Thats 100,000 yen. That would be a live large one (several hundred lbs) and to translate to dollars, remove the first 2 zeros for a rough estimate. Cut down, you have over 100 lbs of sashimi or '10$ a lb'. I am amazed at the price in the local super. I pay 50 cents for a 5-1/2 oz. can. Of course, they ruin it by cooking it...:^) There's 'tuna' and there's 'tuna'. Several types of fish are called that. The type in cans isn't the expensive version. My owner in topic absolutely devours raw tuna. If it did not seem to be part of the only way to avoid diarrhea in that cat, I would not cook Tuna with eggs. I know that cooking degrades some oils in fish. So, when I eat fish myself, it is canned and not cooked. Grin, hate to tell you but all canned fish is cooked. It's part of the canning process. It's not only for presevation but to kill any possible marine parasites. Okay, "canned", to be precise over what I said was raw. Whatever the process, it doesn't seem to cause much obvious difference. I know that canning is a kind of cooking, and only briefly, and if it's done right, then it is in presence of steam, not air, so the oil degradation is minimual compared to say, grilling fish, which stinks. Unless I miss my guess, fish canning is done at Ultra High Temperature under pressure, something beyond boiling. I do not know the period, and it basically steriilizes fish. It is more thorough than pasturization at 150F|65C. |
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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
Here is an update on what is very probably the ultimate cause of my
Cat's diarrhea: http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/stevie_dorsal.jpg http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/stevie_lateral.jpg You can see a calcified stretch of stomach tissue in each of those x-rays; one near her spine, the same near her skin in the lateral view. An eraser, possibly with some wood in it, lodged in her stomach. She could've eaten it before I met her, about a year ago, when I accidentally helped her get into a Seven Eleven. I do not think I ever had anything like that particular kind of eraser in my place, because I hav been using mechanical pencils for about five years. My vet wanted her to eat chicken from a can. For this week, she will be getting salmon (human purity), because her stomach iz probably still inflamed. I suspect that she won't be nearly az prone to diarrhea, so I will experiment (in two weeks, perhaps) even with kibble to see for sure that her diarrhea is gone. So, it looks like I was able to mask a problem until it became more serious. I suspect that her immune system attacked the eraser like it would any other foreign body, only since rubber is so biologically stable, all that did was cause swelling in her stomach; recoil from her own immune system. Eventually, the swelling gave way to dead tissue, and her body started calcifying it. My vet probably cut out that entire calcified part, plus some inflammed stomach tissue nearby. Last Monday, she barfed about five times, to the point of dehydration. Bile is normally green, and it was getting thicker. When a vet rehydrated her intravenously, she started barfing, again. Those x-rays wer taken some time after that. My vet said that a blockage that full is rare. _______ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...647b390b85f361 |
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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
"JWL" wrote
Here is an update on what is very probably the ultimate cause of my Cat's diarrhea: http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/stevie_dorsal.jpg http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/stevie_lateral.jpg My vet wanted her to eat chicken from a can. For this week, she will be getting salmon (human purity), because her stomach iz probably still inflamed. I suspect that she won't be nearly az prone to diarrhea, so I will experiment (in two weeks, perhaps) even with kibble to see for sure that her diarrhea is gone. A little human level salmon will be fine for a short time. Long term, it doesnt have the right balance for her health (she needs taurine especially which isn't in human grade canned salmon). It's kinda like letting a kid eat just icecream for a few days after tonsil removal. Harmless for a short period and more important to get 'something' into her. I highly suggest a grain free kibble at least at the start. Hopefully you can get 'Blue Wilderness' cat kibble (Canadian company, top of the line). Whether she had or has grain allergies before, she's apt to develop them if you feed grains too soon. You'll see in another thread (16 year old cat throwing up) where I list out how to check for this and even some decent versions of the common 'fancy feast' that are grain-free. Another short term item that may be of use (again, we are talking no more than a week unless you get taurine and other suppliments from the vet) is the ground chicken human babyfood. Check the label but you should be able to find ones that are just ground chicken with a little chicken broth. Don't be lead by hype on the claims of cat or dog food. Read the labels. Some of the so called 'best' are actually mid-grade or even 1 star foods. Wellness for example, seems to have a grainfree version but it is not marketed where I am. The one they market here and claim is the best, costs more (1/3rd more) than Blue Wilderness and uses wheat as it's 3rd or 4th top ingredient. The wellness sold here is only a 2star food at best. Their dog food version sold here is a 1 star. Blue wilderness consistantly (and for good reason) will rate 5-6 stars. Even their lesser 'Blue Mountain' versions are pretty decent (3-4 star). |
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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
"JWL" wrote
cshenk wrote: My owner in topic absolutely devours raw tuna. If it did not seem to be part of the only way to avoid diarrhea in that cat, I would not cook Tuna with eggs. I know that cooking degrades some oils in fish. So, when I eat fish myself, it is canned and not cooked. Grin, hate to tell you but all canned fish is cooked. It's part of the canning process. It's not only for presevation but to kill any possible marine parasites. Okay, "canned", to be precise over what I said was raw. Whatever the process, it doesn't seem to cause much obvious difference. Thats ok, I know what you mean. Being as i've lived coastal most of my life and in Japan for 7 years, I'm more familiar with the real 'raw fish' (Sashimi) and tuna is one of my favorites. Real raw fish tuna is very different from the canned types but it is a cultural wording to often think of tuna (or salmon, sardines, etc) as 'raw'. You aren't alone and I was being pedantic ;-) My mind associates 'raw tuna' with a fish still flipping about that morning when I have it for lunch or dinner. We clean and dress it ourself if it is a small whole one. We can also get it by the lb in Virginia Beach at the local stores when the Atlantic Tuna are running. I know that canning is a kind of cooking, and only briefly, and if it's done right, then it is in presence of steam, not air, so the oil degradation is minimual compared to say, grilling fish, which stinks. Unless I miss my guess, fish canning is done at Ultra High Temperature under pressure, something beyond boiling. I do not know the period, and it basically steriilizes fish. It is more thorough than pasturization at 150F|65C. I think you are pretty close. I can't feed my cat canned human grade tuna unless it's water packed because the oil packed ones normally use grain oil bases. Canola based ones 'may' be ok but she's very grain sensitive. Waterpacked though should be ok. |
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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
JWL wrote:
cshenk wrote: "JWL" wrote Bill Graham wrote: In Japan, they sometimes get over $100,000 for just one tuna fish. - Thats 100,000 yen. That would be a live large one (several hundred lbs) and to translate to dollars, remove the first 2 zeros for a rough estimate. Cut down, you have over 100 lbs of sashimi or '10$ a lb'. I am amazed at the price in the local super. I pay 50 cents for a 5-1/2 oz. can. Of course, they ruin it by cooking it...:^) There's 'tuna' and there's 'tuna'. Several types of fish are called that. The type in cans isn't the expensive version. My owner in topic absolutely devours raw tuna. If it did not seem to be part of the only way to avoid diarrhea in that cat, I would not cook Tuna with eggs. I know that cooking degrades some oils in fish. So, when I eat fish myself, it is canned and not cooked. Grin, hate to tell you but all canned fish is cooked. It's part of the canning process. It's not only for presevation but to kill any possible marine parasites. Okay, "canned", to be precise over what I said was raw. Whatever the process, it doesn't seem to cause much obvious difference. I know that canning is a kind of cooking, and only briefly, and if it's done right, then it is in presence of steam, not air, so the oil degradation is minimual compared to say, grilling fish, which stinks. Unless I miss my guess, fish canning is done at Ultra High Temperature under pressure, something beyond boiling. I do not know the period, and it basically steriilizes fish. It is more thorough than pasturization at 150F|65C. I found this through Google: Fresh tuna is even more prohibitive. High-end restaurants and sushi bars are paying 5,188 yen a kilogram -- 84 percent more than in 2005, government figures show. |
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Cooking for cats with diarrhea
On Wednesday, December 8, 2010 7:03:10 AM UTC-7, SJ wrote:
"Bohgosity BumaskiL" wrote in message ... That should say 170g Tuna (not mL).. I think most tuna for cats is organ meat, which is cheaper than white, because Iron won't hurt them. I hope no one took brewhaha's post seriously.. Tuna is not recommended for cats, especially cats with many illnesses. And giving wasabi powder to anyone with digestive problems, including diarrhea, will make the diarrhea worse. Wasabi irritates bowels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_U Not if a cat's cousin of Helicobacter Pylori iz irritating her bowels first. |
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