OMG! One more reason to NOT declaw...

In article ,
enlightened us with...
I clean house for a veterinarian and was there today. It was her day off
and she was home. She called me into her office for a moment to show me
a photo on her palm pilot that was related to a paw repair she did to a
declawed cat. I gasped when I saw it. I asked her to email it to me and
when I got home tonight I made a new page and added it to my website.
The details are under the photo. You are going to flip when you see
this:

http://community.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/complications


*sigh*
I wish we'd just ban the damn procedure already. It's barbaric.

That poor cat...

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In , Karen Chuplis
wrote:
| in article , Sherry at
| wrote on 8/7/03 10:54 PM:

| http://community.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/complications

| Doesn't that just make you sick. Karen, be sure to check this one
| out. It would be an excellent link to post on the other group for
| vet-wifey to see.

| *snort* she'd just pooh pooh it away like everything else, ask for
| proof, then ignore the proof even though she read that that proof
| was tainted.

Of course. She's got things like mortgage payments to think about. You
think she's going to like arguments against easy income? Puhleeze.

That said, stopping the practice of declawing will need more than laws.
As in other countries, vets will have to Just Say No. It boils down to
attitudes in society at large.

In , Karen Chuplis
wrote:
| in article , Sherry at
| wrote on 8/7/03 10:54 PM:

| http://community.webtv.net/stopdeclaw/complications

| Doesn't that just make you sick. Karen, be sure to check this one
| out. It would be an excellent link to post on the other group for
| vet-wifey to see.

| *snort* she'd just pooh pooh it away like everything else, ask for
| proof, then ignore the proof even though she read that that proof
| was tainted.

Of course. She's got things like mortgage payments to think about. You
think she's going to like arguments against easy income? Puhleeze.

That said, stopping the practice of declawing will need more than laws.
As in other countries, vets will have to Just Say No. It boils down to
attitudes in society at large.

*snort* she'd just pooh pooh it away like everything else, ask for proof,
then ignore the proof even though she read that that proof was tainted.

Tainted proof? Extrapolate the data any way you want to fit your agenda,
just don't speak for me. I never pooh poohed anything. It seems as though
you have labeled me as something I am not.

-Sharon

*snort* she'd just pooh pooh it away like everything else, ask for proof,
then ignore the proof even though she read that that proof was tainted.

Tainted proof? Extrapolate the data any way you want to fit your agenda,
just don't speak for me. I never pooh poohed anything. It seems as though
you have labeled me as something I am not.

-Sharon

Of course. She's got things like mortgage payments to think about. You
think she's going to like arguments against easy income? Puhleeze.

Before you assume things about me, why don't you ask. If you go and look you
will see that declawing at our practice is not even close to a regular
procedure and only a last resort procedure. Easy income? Hardly.

That said, stopping the practice of declawing will need more than laws.
As in other countries, vets will have to Just Say No. It boils down to
attitudes in society at large.

And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW CASES.
I understand your views and I sympathize. But a blind attack on my character
is uncalled for.

-Sharon

Of course. She's got things like mortgage payments to think about. You
think she's going to like arguments against easy income? Puhleeze.

Before you assume things about me, why don't you ask. If you go and look you
will see that declawing at our practice is not even close to a regular
procedure and only a last resort procedure. Easy income? Hardly.

That said, stopping the practice of declawing will need more than laws.
As in other countries, vets will have to Just Say No. It boils down to
attitudes in society at large.

And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW CASES.
I understand your views and I sympathize. But a blind attack on my character
is uncalled for.

-Sharon

Thinking people do tend to pooh-pooh the bleatings of people who try to
pass of the rare complication as a common and expected result. You
should look at the Lasik groups and you'll see how you're more likely
to go blind than not by having the procedure if you were to listen to
them.

Oh - can of worms - here's the can opener. Don't cut yourself. Be prepared
to be labeled and maligned - no rational exchange of ideas accepted.

-Sharon

Thinking people do tend to pooh-pooh the bleatings of people who try to
pass of the rare complication as a common and expected result. You
should look at the Lasik groups and you'll see how you're more likely
to go blind than not by having the procedure if you were to listen to
them.

Oh - can of worms - here's the can opener. Don't cut yourself. Be prepared
to be labeled and maligned - no rational exchange of ideas accepted.

-Sharon

In , "Sharon"
wrote:

| If you go and look you will see that declawing at our practice is not
| even close to a regular procedure and only a last resort procedure.

This is the standard, I dare say AVMA-style "official", copout from vets
all over North America - the only area in the world where this cruel and
barbaric practice is condoned. I hear that the CVMA is going to take
this line in the California AB 395 hearings - that declawing is a minor,
almost insignificant part of their practices, a last resort only under
duress, yada yada yada.

Okay. Why not offer numbers? How many cats does your practice declaw,
as a percentage of total cats treated, every year? And do you think
your numbers are representative, typical of vets in your area or your
state or across the US? Would you care to offer an estimate anyway?

| Easy income? Hardly.

I beg your pardon? It's money for something that need not be done at
all. Gravy.

| As in other countries, vets will have to Just Say No. It boils down
| to attitudes in society at large.
|
| And sometimes in a very few cases it needs to be an option. VERY FEW CASES.

Like what?

Vets in other countries have no trouble saying "no cases". You might
want to think who is suffering the ethical deficiency, vets in the rest
of the world, or vets in North America. Because it *does* boil down to
ethics and attitudes.

| I understand your views and I sympathize.

I don't think you do. That is, I doubt that you sympathize with my view
that vets who declaw are morally deficient, if not defective.

| But a blind attack on my character is uncalled for.

I read the thread in alt.med.veterinary. The issue isn't your
character. It's what you're trying to evade.