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ospam enlightened us with... Maybe it depends on where you are. I do see doll-faced Persians at pet stores. They might be Persian mixes sold as Persians, however. I don't see too many Peke-faced Persians other than at cat shows. Really? Then it must be regional. I don't even remember seeing doll- faces. We're all flat-faces here (suburban Chicago). Then again, I only see them in pet stores. I don't see Persians anywhere else. Considering my local pet store and how many purebreds they sell, I'd wager that most people who buy purebreds have no idea what the standard even is - they just know that when they see Persians they have flat faces. To them, that is what a Persian is. They buy on impulse, not because they researched the cat and really wanted one. If they'd done research, they wouldn't be buying them from a pet store that charges more than a BYB. *g* That's true, because responsible breeders don't sell to pet stores. A very hardy SO TRUE from me on that one. Actually, I think it's harder to get a cat from a responsible breeder than it is to adopt a kid. That's only half-joking. IME, most people who buy Persians either do so on impulse or for a status symbol. They don't go around to breeders and ask about the different types. No doubt true, because as you say, many people buy on impulse. If they did research at all, they wouldn't buy from a pet store. Yup. My point exactly. From my experience only, of course. Cat show people are a relatively small group. When you talk about standards being popular, that means popular with judges at the cat shows, not people who buy pet cats. I'm not sure the judges really care what "look" is more appealing to potential buyers of pet quality cats. After all, if the cat met the established standards perfectly, it would be show quality, not pet quality, and the breeder would not be interested in selling it anyway. Yeah. That is true...So why would the standards change? I don't know a whole hell of a lot about showing cats, since I'm a moggie-lover. Any ideas? The Siamese changed too, as we were saying somewhere else in this thread. In the ring, the appleheads lose because they are no longer standard. How would this happen? ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
ospam enlightened us with... Maybe it depends on where you are. I do see doll-faced Persians at pet stores. They might be Persian mixes sold as Persians, however. I don't see too many Peke-faced Persians other than at cat shows. Really? Then it must be regional. I don't even remember seeing doll- faces. We're all flat-faces here (suburban Chicago). Then again, I only see them in pet stores. I don't see Persians anywhere else. Considering my local pet store and how many purebreds they sell, I'd wager that most people who buy purebreds have no idea what the standard even is - they just know that when they see Persians they have flat faces. To them, that is what a Persian is. They buy on impulse, not because they researched the cat and really wanted one. If they'd done research, they wouldn't be buying them from a pet store that charges more than a BYB. *g* That's true, because responsible breeders don't sell to pet stores. A very hardy SO TRUE from me on that one. Actually, I think it's harder to get a cat from a responsible breeder than it is to adopt a kid. That's only half-joking. IME, most people who buy Persians either do so on impulse or for a status symbol. They don't go around to breeders and ask about the different types. No doubt true, because as you say, many people buy on impulse. If they did research at all, they wouldn't buy from a pet store. Yup. My point exactly. From my experience only, of course. Cat show people are a relatively small group. When you talk about standards being popular, that means popular with judges at the cat shows, not people who buy pet cats. I'm not sure the judges really care what "look" is more appealing to potential buyers of pet quality cats. After all, if the cat met the established standards perfectly, it would be show quality, not pet quality, and the breeder would not be interested in selling it anyway. Yeah. That is true...So why would the standards change? I don't know a whole hell of a lot about showing cats, since I'm a moggie-lover. Any ideas? The Siamese changed too, as we were saying somewhere else in this thread. In the ring, the appleheads lose because they are no longer standard. How would this happen? ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
ospam enlightened us with... I'm not sure. I know there are some breeders committed to bringing back appleheads and doll-faced Persians. I saw some of the sites on that. They are SO much prettier, IMO. I think there is probably a parallel with dog breeding--the trend has been to make each breed distinctive from other breeds or mixed breeds. So I imagine what has happened is that judges tend to favor a look that is distinct for each breed. Over time, that meant that Persian faces became flatter than your average housecat, and Siamese cats became slimmer and with more wedge-shaped head than a mixed breed pointed cat. That would make sense in a weird sort of way... Sometimes, people confuse me. *g* ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
ospam enlightened us with... I'm not sure. I know there are some breeders committed to bringing back appleheads and doll-faced Persians. I saw some of the sites on that. They are SO much prettier, IMO. I think there is probably a parallel with dog breeding--the trend has been to make each breed distinctive from other breeds or mixed breeds. So I imagine what has happened is that judges tend to favor a look that is distinct for each breed. Over time, that meant that Persian faces became flatter than your average housecat, and Siamese cats became slimmer and with more wedge-shaped head than a mixed breed pointed cat. That would make sense in a weird sort of way... Sometimes, people confuse me. *g* ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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